More rural and small town kids - that's the "new" diversity

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Anonymous wrote:Why would any college want rural and small town kids?

They bring nothing.

They bring as much as a big city/urban kid. It's a measurement of absolutely nothing. A meaningless distinction.

Maybe they bring diversity of thought and opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s new is increasing rural enrollment by 30%.
Something has to go down for that to go up.

What went down?

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Anonymous wrote:Aren't there more and more UMC and up kids who were born in wealthy coastal communities that now claim to be "rural" because their parents telework or don't really have to work anymore so they moved somewhere like Montana? And school quality isn't really an issue because they can go to boarding school?

Even 30 years ago, lots of these kids at Ivies.

The colleges see what schools they attend.

You missed the point. The colleges want these kids from boarding schools. They get to check the geographic diversity box while still getting a kid from a feeder as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Hasn't that always been something they're looking for? I've always assumed I got a boost for being from a rural area 30 years ago (based on comparing my application to my peers).

Me too! I know I was geographic diversity for my T15 30 years ago - to the point where I would actually call myself that to my more cosmopolitan, affluent peers at the time. This isn't new, OP. It's just being brought into the light a bit more as diversity based on race/ethnicity is not as "center-stage," if you will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Aren't there more and more UMC and up kids who were born in wealthy coastal communities that now claim to be "rural" because their parents telework or don't really have to work anymore so they moved somewhere like Montana? And school quality isn't really an issue because they can go to boarding school?

Even 30 years ago, lots of these kids at Ivies.

The colleges see what schools they attend.

And they love that. The truth is they don't want someone from Podunk High School who has never taken an AP, they'd rather have the kid of a professor or a rural doctor's kid or a tech person's kid who goes to a boarding school and can handle rigor and is full-pay.

Very very true. Better if they get to mark rural too.
My daughter’s roommate at a T10 is from aspen. Parents are “retired”.
Yes, she’s rural.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Aren't there more and more UMC and up kids who were born in wealthy coastal communities that now claim to be "rural" because their parents telework or don't really have to work anymore so they moved somewhere like Montana? And school quality isn't really an issue because they can go to boarding school?

Even 30 years ago, lots of these kids at Ivies.

The colleges see what schools they attend.

You missed the point. The colleges want these kids from boarding schools. They get to check the geographic diversity box while still getting a kid from a feeder as well.

You are really stretching here. The colleges are looking for kids from rural high schools - boarding school kids don't count.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s new is increasing rural enrollment by 30%.
Something has to go down for that to go up.

What went down?

International prob went down.
Black too if Princeton is a guide.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not new at all. Lots of MAGA kids who rail against DEI are completely ignorant to the fact that being from Small Town, Alabama is exactly why they were accepted. They benefited from DEI but think it was just their charm.

Why do you assume it's the same kids? It's probably the kids who wanted out all along. The rest are happy to go to Clemson or Auburn.

This. They are not completely ignorant to the fact that their small town diversity is why they were accepted. They're just going to be a lot quieter and more grateful than many of those who were admitted for other reasons.

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It kind of cements the idea that JD Vance was likely a DEI admit to Yale.

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Another trend is a focus toward local admits to private colleges. Duke admits a ton of NC kids, penn draws from philly, tulane in new orleans, etc. Heard a lot about this on campus tours last year.

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Anonymous wrote:It kind of cements the idea that JD Vance was likely a DEI admit to Yale.

For sure. And, boy, didn't he make the most of it!

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Anonymous wrote:Another trend is a focus toward local admits to private colleges. Duke admits a ton of NC kids, penn draws from philly, tulane in new orleans, etc. Heard a lot about this on campus tours last year.

That’s not a trend. It’s called a backyard commitment.
Been around for a decade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Aren't there more and more UMC and up kids who were born in wealthy coastal communities that now claim to be "rural" because their parents telework or don't really have to work anymore so they moved somewhere like Montana? And school quality isn't really an issue because they can go to boarding school?

Even 30 years ago, lots of these kids at Ivies.

The colleges see what schools they attend.

You missed the point. The colleges want these kids from boarding schools. They get to check the geographic diversity box while still getting a kid from a feeder as well.

You are really stretching here. The colleges are looking for kids from rural high schools - boarding school kids don't count.

They do count as rural and they do count for their home state. And they are more academically qualified than a kid with no rigor who went to a crappy rural school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It kind of cements the idea that JD Vance was likely a DEI admit to Yale.

For sure. And, boy, didn't he make the most of it!

lol…he really did. He’s such a hypocrite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Aren't there more and more UMC and up kids who were born in wealthy coastal communities that now claim to be "rural" because their parents telework or don't really have to work anymore so they moved somewhere like Montana? And school quality isn't really an issue because they can go to boarding school?

Even 30 years ago, lots of these kids at Ivies.

The colleges see what schools they attend.

You missed the point. The colleges want these kids from boarding schools. They get to check the geographic diversity box while still getting a kid from a feeder as well.

You are really stretching here. The colleges are looking for kids from rural high schools - boarding school kids don't count.

They do count as rural and they do count for their home state. And they are more academically qualified than a kid with no rigor who went to a crappy rural school.

DP. Depends where thr "rural" designation is coming from. College Board Recognition uses the high school. Half the high schools in the US are designated rural.