Does anyone else believe the impending financial crash will be bigger than 2008-2009?

[Anonymous]

The markets are informationally efficient, meaning stock prices already reflect all available information about economic conditions and future risks, including those that are the subject of OP's rant. PP's belief that they know more than all the markets is delusional.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is so much work out there. These are jobs that white collar workers or college graduates don't want to do.
I can find 20 people jobs right now making $30-$40 an hour without experience. I just can't find anyone looking for a job or willing to work.
Today is nothing like 2008 when I couldn't even get a server job with 10 years of experience.
I'm in hard assets because of the money printing. I have also been through 4 down markets/crisis and will come through it easily.
No crash. It's just another decade when people not in hard assets are left behind once again.
We are going through rapid changes, not a crash of any kind.

This. Job market is not weak.

Does anyone read a newspaper? Or, do you just spin whatever thoughts pop into your head?

"But fresh figures out Wednesday show that those meager job totals weren’t an anomaly: For the first time in more than four years, there are fewer open jobs than there are job seekers."
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/03/economy/us-jolts-job-openings-layoffs-july

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My concerns is BRICS and loss of reserve currency status.

As someone from another country American have no clue how the US uses the US dollar as a powerful weapon.

There is zero chance in the next 25 years that the dollar will lose its reserve currency status. There are reasons for that not the least of which is that there is nothing to replace it.

Crypto

The billions of dollars invested in Crypto will one day evaporate. Mark my words.

[Anonymous]

I don’t give a fk anymore. I’m buying GDXU and JNUG! To the moon! Inflation bout to make this btch take off mane!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The markets are informationally efficient, meaning stock prices already reflect all available information about economic conditions and future risks, including those that are the subject of OP's rant. PP's belief that they know more than all the markets is delusional.

Ah yes, tut tut good sir! One should never try to predict the future based on trends and historical events! All is well and the market shall move on! Any talks of stagflation and recessions are the musings of unworthy peasants! You will buy VOO and shut your mouth! You dare not deviate from the land of the bulls!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The markets are informationally efficient, meaning stock prices already reflect all available information about economic conditions and future risks, including those that are the subject of OP's rant. PP's belief that they know more than all the markets is delusional.

Ah yes, tut tut good sir! One should never try to predict the future based on trends and historical events! All is well and the market shall move on! Any talks of stagflation and recessions are the musings of unworthy peasants! You will buy VOO and shut your mouth! You dare not deviate from the land of the bulls!

The risks of future stagflation and recessions are factored into current market prices. You don't know more than the market.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The markets are informationally efficient, meaning stock prices already reflect all available information about economic conditions and future risks, including those that are the subject of OP's rant. PP's belief that they know more than all the markets is delusional.

Ah yes, tut tut good sir! One should never try to predict the future based on trends and historical events! All is well and the market shall move on! Any talks of stagflation and recessions are the musings of unworthy peasants! You will buy VOO and shut your mouth! You dare not deviate from the land of the bulls!

The risks of future stagflation and recessions are factored into current market prices. You don't know more than the market.

How about measuring the economy by the lifestyle of people currently earning minimum wage of $7.25 per hour before tax? The slightest fluctuation in grocery and gas prices is devastating.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The markets are informationally efficient, meaning stock prices already reflect all available information about economic conditions and future risks, including those that are the subject of OP's rant. PP's belief that they know more than all the markets is delusional.

Ah yes, tut tut good sir! One should never try to predict the future based on trends and historical events! All is well and the market shall move on! Any talks of stagflation and recessions are the musings of unworthy peasants! You will buy VOO and shut your mouth! You dare not deviate from the land of the bulls!

The risks of future stagflation and recessions are factored into current market prices. You don't know more than the market.

How about measuring the economy by the lifestyle of people currently earning minimum wage of $7.25 per hour before tax? The slightest fluctuation in grocery and gas prices is devastating.

That may be true - but it’s been true for a long time. Inflation was horrible in the aftermath of Covid and gas prices spike all the time. The S&P 500 has continued to
rise over the long term. You’re blinded by political emotions and local conditions associated with federal government cuts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The markets are informationally efficient, meaning stock prices already reflect all available information about economic conditions and future risks, including those that are the subject of OP's rant. PP's belief that they know more than all the markets is delusional.

Ah yes, tut tut good sir! One should never try to predict the future based on trends and historical events! All is well and the market shall move on! Any talks of stagflation and recessions are the musings of unworthy peasants! You will buy VOO and shut your mouth! You dare not deviate from the land of the bulls!

The risks of future stagflation and recessions are factored into current market prices. You don't know more than the market.

How about measuring the economy by the lifestyle of people currently earning minimum wage of $7.25 per hour before tax? The slightest fluctuation in grocery and gas prices is devastating.

That may be true - but it’s been true for a long time. Inflation was horrible in the aftermath of Covid and gas prices spike all the time. The S&P 500 has continued to
rise over the long term. You’re blinded by political emotions and local conditions associated with federal government cuts.

“Political emotions” lol.

So any concerns voiced here are coming from TDS libs who are sad about Feds lost their jobs and stuff?

Okay, buddy. I’m still buying gold ETFs, some tripled leveraged just for fun, let’s see where we are in a year. We could be at 2x SPY or we could be in the economic doldrums or worse. I’m guessing inflation keeps ticking up and gold keeps rising.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The markets are informationally efficient, meaning stock prices already reflect all available information about economic conditions and future risks, including those that are the subject of OP's rant. PP's belief that they know more than all the markets is delusional.

Ah yes, tut tut good sir! One should never try to predict the future based on trends and historical events! All is well and the market shall move on! Any talks of stagflation and recessions are the musings of unworthy peasants! You will buy VOO and shut your mouth! You dare not deviate from the land of the bulls!

The risks of future stagflation and recessions are factored into current market prices. You don't know more than the market.

And yet I can buy JNUG and it will rise 30% in a month.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The markets are informationally efficient, meaning stock prices already reflect all available information about economic conditions and future risks, including those that are the subject of OP's rant. PP's belief that they know more than all the markets is delusional.

Ah yes, tut tut good sir! One should never try to predict the future based on trends and historical events! All is well and the market shall move on! Any talks of stagflation and recessions are the musings of unworthy peasants! You will buy VOO and shut your mouth! You dare not deviate from the land of the bulls!

The risks of future stagflation and recessions are factored into current market prices. You don't know more than the market.

How about measuring the economy by the lifestyle of people currently earning minimum wage of $7.25 per hour before tax? The slightest fluctuation in grocery and gas prices is devastating.

That may be true - but it’s been true for a long time. Inflation was horrible in the aftermath of Covid and gas prices spike all the time. The S&P 500 has continued to
rise over the long term. You’re blinded by political emotions and local conditions associated with federal government cuts.

“Political emotions” lol.

So any concerns voiced here are coming from TDS libs who are sad about Feds lost their jobs and stuff?

Okay, buddy. I’m still buying gold ETFs, some tripled leveraged just for fun, let’s see where we are in a year. We could be at 2x SPY or we could be in the economic doldrums or worse. I’m guessing inflation keeps ticking up and gold keeps rising.

In short - if you are advocating for market timing, investing in gold, or shorting the S&P 500 - yes, obviously. You are ignoring all historical data and think that the era we live in is unprecedented when in reality every era is unprecedented for one reason or another. Your emotions are getting the best of you and you should realize it. Dollar cost averaging into a broad based S&P index fund and appropriately shifting funds as you near retirement is the clear path. Same as always.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The markets are informationally efficient, meaning stock prices already reflect all available information about economic conditions and future risks, including those that are the subject of OP's rant. PP's belief that they know more than all the markets is delusional.

Ah yes, tut tut good sir! One should never try to predict the future based on trends and historical events! All is well and the market shall move on! Any talks of stagflation and recessions are the musings of unworthy peasants! You will buy VOO and shut your mouth! You dare not deviate from the land of the bulls!

The risks of future stagflation and recessions are factored into current market prices. You don't know more than the market.

How about measuring the economy by the lifestyle of people currently earning minimum wage of $7.25 per hour before tax? The slightest fluctuation in grocery and gas prices is devastating.

That may be true - but it’s been true for a long time. Inflation was horrible in the aftermath of Covid and gas prices spike all the time. The S&P 500 has continued to
rise over the long term. You’re blinded by political emotions and local conditions associated with federal government cuts.

“Political emotions” lol.

So any concerns voiced here are coming from TDS libs who are sad about Feds lost their jobs and stuff?

Okay, buddy. I’m still buying gold ETFs, some tripled leveraged just for fun, let’s see where we are in a year. We could be at 2x SPY or we could be in the economic doldrums or worse. I’m guessing inflation keeps ticking up and gold keeps rising.

In short - if you are advocating for market timing, investing in gold, or shorting the S&P 500 - yes, obviously. You are ignoring all historical data and think that the era we live in is unprecedented when in reality every era is unprecedented for one reason or another. Your emotions are getting the best of you and you should realize it. Dollar cost averaging into a broad based S&P index fund and appropriately shifting funds as you near retirement is the clear path. Same as always.

And you are ignoring both parallels to the onset of the Great Depression, coupled with…America decoupling and choosing “America first” which really equates to America alone. The world is forging to new trade routes.

Look at China, Russia and India joining in cooperation. Look as tariffs are Willy nilly turned on and off as a cudgel. Look at inflation rises and gold skyrockets. The world sees us as bipolar and is quietly turning away. The days of just “buy the S&P” and forget about it. don’t bet against it. It’s doubtful that will always be the case.

We are repeating poorly learned history lessons. Nationalizing companies and penalizing trading partners. You honestly must not get out of the Fox News bubble to see unwelcome developments. But you will see when your portfolio of domestic stocks doesn’t go back to highs you feel are expected.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The markets are informationally efficient, meaning stock prices already reflect all available information about economic conditions and future risks, including those that are the subject of OP's rant. PP's belief that they know more than all the markets is delusional.

Ah yes, tut tut good sir! One should never try to predict the future based on trends and historical events! All is well and the market shall move on! Any talks of stagflation and recessions are the musings of unworthy peasants! You will buy VOO and shut your mouth! You dare not deviate from the land of the bulls!

The risks of future stagflation and recessions are factored into current market prices. You don't know more than the market.

How about measuring the economy by the lifestyle of people currently earning minimum wage of $7.25 per hour before tax? The slightest fluctuation in grocery and gas prices is devastating.

That may be true - but it’s been true for a long time. Inflation was horrible in the aftermath of Covid and gas prices spike all the time. The S&P 500 has continued to
rise over the long term. You’re blinded by political emotions and local conditions associated with federal government cuts.

“Political emotions” lol.

So any concerns voiced here are coming from TDS libs who are sad about Feds lost their jobs and stuff?

Okay, buddy. I’m still buying gold ETFs, some tripled leveraged just for fun, let’s see where we are in a year. We could be at 2x SPY or we could be in the economic doldrums or worse. I’m guessing inflation keeps ticking up and gold keeps rising.

In short - if you are advocating for market timing, investing in gold, or shorting the S&P 500 - yes, obviously. You are ignoring all historical data and think that the era we live in is unprecedented when in reality every era is unprecedented for one reason or another. Your emotions are getting the best of you and you should realize it. Dollar cost averaging into a broad based S&P index fund and appropriately shifting funds as you near retirement is the clear path. Same as always.

And you are ignoring both parallels to the onset of the Great Depression, coupled with…America decoupling and choosing “America first” which really equates to America alone. The world is forging to new trade routes.

Look at China, Russia and India joining in cooperation. Look as tariffs are Willy nilly turned on and off as a cudgel. Look at inflation rises and gold skyrockets. The world sees us as bipolar and is quietly turning away. The days of just “buy the S&P” and forget about it. don’t bet against it. It’s doubtful that will always be the case.

We are repeating poorly learned history lessons. Nationalizing companies and penalizing trading partners. You honestly must not get out of the Fox News bubble to see unwelcome developments. But you will see when your portfolio of domestic stocks doesn’t go back to highs you feel are expected.

I can’t stand Trump. I don’t watch Fox News. I just think you are overstating the impact of him (or any president) on the S&P 500.

My portfolio of domestic stocks is at an all time high through nearly 5 years of Trump and his idiocy. It could go down 30% tomorrow and we’d be back to where we were in like 2022. Big deal - it’ll head back up from there.

You’re not smart enough to know when to get out and get back in. You’re just not - no one is. And if gold is really the answer going forward and the American economy is “done” then we all have much bigger issues to worry about. I just don’t care about doomsday scenarios where everyone is screwed no matter what.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The markets are informationally efficient, meaning stock prices already reflect all available information about economic conditions and future risks, including those that are the subject of OP's rant. PP's belief that they know more than all the markets is delusional.

Ah yes, tut tut good sir! One should never try to predict the future based on trends and historical events! All is well and the market shall move on! Any talks of stagflation and recessions are the musings of unworthy peasants! You will buy VOO and shut your mouth! You dare not deviate from the land of the bulls!

The risks of future stagflation and recessions are factored into current market prices. You don't know more than the market.

How about measuring the economy by the lifestyle of people currently earning minimum wage of $7.25 per hour before tax? The slightest fluctuation in grocery and gas prices is devastating.

That may be true - but it’s been true for a long time. Inflation was horrible in the aftermath of Covid and gas prices spike all the time. The S&P 500 has continued to
rise over the long term. You’re blinded by political emotions and local conditions associated with federal government cuts.

“Political emotions” lol.

So any concerns voiced here are coming from TDS libs who are sad about Feds lost their jobs and stuff?

Okay, buddy. I’m still buying gold ETFs, some tripled leveraged just for fun, let’s see where we are in a year. We could be at 2x SPY or we could be in the economic doldrums or worse. I’m guessing inflation keeps ticking up and gold keeps rising.

In short - if you are advocating for market timing, investing in gold, or shorting the S&P 500 - yes, obviously. You are ignoring all historical data and think that the era we live in is unprecedented when in reality every era is unprecedented for one reason or another. Your emotions are getting the best of you and you should realize it. Dollar cost averaging into a broad based S&P index fund and appropriately shifting funds as you near retirement is the clear path. Same as always.

And you are ignoring both parallels to the onset of the Great Depression, coupled with…America decoupling and choosing “America first” which really equates to America alone. The world is forging to new trade routes.

Look at China, Russia and India joining in cooperation. Look as tariffs are Willy nilly turned on and off as a cudgel. Look at inflation rises and gold skyrockets. The world sees us as bipolar and is quietly turning away. The days of just “buy the S&P” and forget about it. don’t bet against it. It’s doubtful that will always be the case.

We are repeating poorly learned history lessons. Nationalizing companies and penalizing trading partners. You honestly must not get out of the Fox News bubble to see unwelcome developments. But you will see when your portfolio of domestic stocks doesn’t go back to highs you feel are expected.

I can’t stand Trump. I don’t watch Fox News. I just think you are overstating the impact of him (or any president) on the S&P 500.

My portfolio of domestic stocks is at an all time high through nearly 5 years of Trump and his idiocy. It could go down 30% tomorrow and we’d be back to where we were in like 2022. Big deal - it’ll head back up from there.

You’re not smart enough to know when to get out and get back in. You’re just not - no one is. And if gold is really the answer going forward and the American economy is “done” then we all have much bigger issues to worry about. I just don’t care about doomsday scenarios where everyone is screwed no matter what.

You can both be right. Both gold and stock market seems to be telegraphing more inflation ahead. Anything but cash, in other words- hard assets like gold and some stocks, tend to do OK in such environment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is so much work out there. These are jobs that white collar workers or college graduates don't want to do.
I can find 20 people jobs right now making $30-$40 an hour without experience. I just can't find anyone looking for a job or willing to work.
Today is nothing like 2008 when I couldn't even get a server job with 10 years of experience.
I'm in hard assets because of the money printing. I have also been through 4 down markets/crisis and will come through it easily.
No crash. It's just another decade when people not in hard assets are left behind once again.
We are going through rapid changes, not a crash of any kind.

This. Job market is not weak.

Does anyone read a newspaper? Or, do you just spin whatever thoughts pop into your head?

"But fresh figures out Wednesday show that those meager job totals weren’t an anomaly: For the first time in more than four years, there are fewer open jobs than there are job seekers."
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/03/economy/us-jolts-job-openings-layoffs-july

That is not a weak job market. What that means is that the market is not red hot. This is a normal solid economy number.