Does anyone else believe the impending financial crash will be bigger than 2008-2009?

[Anonymous]

It is going to be horrifying.
If you are spending money now you are a fool.
If you think he won't crash the $ and the banks you are a fool.

Project 2025 told you what they are going to do and it will be way worse than that.

[Anonymous]

I’m buying GDXU, JNUG and NUGT and holding for like 3 months. These are skyrocketing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Glasses: One company controls roughly 30% of the global eyewear market, owns numerous brands (Ray-Ban, Oakley, and more), optical stores (LensCrafters, Sunglass Hut), and insurance partnerships. Some estimates suggest control near 80% of major eyewear brands.

Anthem Health: In many U.S. states, Anthem holds over 50% market share in commercial health insurance—crossing into monopolistic territory in certain regions. Just three companies—CVS Caremark, Cigna’s Express Scripts, and UnitedHealth’s OptumRx—control ~80% of the prescription drug middleman market. Hospital mergers have left many U.S. regions with just 1–2 dominant hospital systems. Research shows this raises prices by 20–40% for patients.

Meatpacking (Beef, Pork, Poultry): Four companies—Tyson Foods, JBS, Cargill, and National Beef—control 80–85% of beef processing in the U.S. Similar concentration exists in pork and chicken. This impacts grocery prices, farmer contracts, and food supply stability.

Seeds & Agrochemicals: The “Big Four” (Bayer/Monsanto, Corteva, Syngenta/ChemChina, BASF) control over 60% of the global seed market and ~70% of agricultural chemicals. Farmers often have little choice but to buy from them.

Grain Trading (ABCD firms): ADM, Bunge, Cargill, Louis Dreyfus dominate global grain trading. They control supply chains that affect bread, cereals, and animal feed prices worldwide.

Waste collection: Two giant companies control 50–60% of U.S. garbage collection and disposal.

Groceries: In many U.S. metro areas, Kroger and Albertsons (pending merger) could control over 70% of grocery sales. Walmart already captures ~25% of all grocery spending nationwide.

Banks: The “Big Four” (JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Citigroup) control nearly 40% of U.S. deposits.

Hedge funds and large chains (like Gannett and Alden Global Capital) now own the majority of U.S. newspapers. Entire states have only one or two daily papers left.

Thank you PP for sharing this. And these corporations are more powerful than the government. We all now in America $$$$ gets you what you want. These monopolies have the means to challenge any disruption to their market share at any level (judicial, legislative, executive).

By definition, none of these are monopolies. Not a one. Look at Groceries. Walmart is crushing the trad stores. Target is also making a strong push as is Sam's and Costco. Specialty grocers including high end are robust now and building. There is more market pressure now on the big chains that at any point. Also because of their relationships with suppliers they have limited or almost no ability to dictate prices. This is an open industry. As is banking. All of those banks are under tons of pressure from upstarts, PE funds, alternative lenders, and even credit unions for the little guys. Your story does not make sense.

[Anonymous]

I haven't read through all the threads, but curious if people are buying way out-of-the money S&P puts or similar options.

I know that is how the Black Swan guy and others made a fortune during the 2008/09 financial crisis (in addition to figuring out how to short Mortgage Bonds).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read through all the threads, but curious if people are buying way out-of-the money S&P puts or similar options.

I know that is how the Black Swan guy and others made a fortune during the 2008/09 financial crisis (in addition to figuring out how to short Mortgage Bonds).

I don’t play options. But I will look into SOXL, SH, spxs and some of the inverse ETFs if the market slides.

At this point I’m stacking gold bullion ETFs and waiting. They’ll stay high in a crash, but can be sold to buy cheap stocks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read through all the threads, but curious if people are buying way out-of-the money S&P puts or similar options.

I know that is how the Black Swan guy and others made a fortune during the 2008/09 financial crisis (in addition to figuring out how to short Mortgage Bonds).

I don’t play options. But I will look into SOXL, SH, spxs and some of the inverse ETFs if the market slides.

At this point I’m stacking gold bullion ETFs and waiting. They’ll stay high in a crash, but can be sold to buy cheap stocks.

The deep out of the money put options are really insurance because they either pay off or they don't, but they are very cheap. Like you look at 2028 - 2030 S&P puts at like 4000. I think $10,000 in put options acquired in 2006 that assumed a market crash by 2010 were worth $1MM when the S&P hit its lowest in 2009.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read through all the threads, but curious if people are buying way out-of-the money S&P puts or similar options.

I know that is how the Black Swan guy and others made a fortune during the 2008/09 financial crisis (in addition to figuring out how to short Mortgage Bonds).

I don’t play options. But I will look into SOXL, SH, spxs and some of the inverse ETFs if the market slides.

At this point I’m stacking gold bullion ETFs and waiting. They’ll stay high in a crash, but can be sold to buy cheap stocks.

Why would they stay high in a crash? In a crash, people (especially hedge funds) need to raise cash however they can, so they will sell your gold bullion ETFs just like any other stock.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is going to be horrifying.
If you are spending money now you are a fool.
If you think he won't crash the $ and the banks you are a fool.

Project 2025 told you what they are going to do and it will be way worse than that.

Please tell us when to sell and then when to buy back into the market.

[Anonymous]

So what are all you survivalists doing with your cash?

[Anonymous]

Yes. We are preparing now and liquidating some of our assets and investments held in the US. We plan to ride it out in part of Europe (not disclosing which part.)

[Anonymous]

People on here are so detached from reality. Don’t let politics play into your financial strategy. You’ll get burned.

It’s funny to think - everyone in this thread predicting the second Great Depression must have taken some pretty drastic action back in April. (If they feel this way now they clearly felt this way or worse when the market cratered back then and panic sold at a low). Imagine missing out on the insane gains since then? Wild to think about.

What are we up another 1% today? Market keeps rolling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People on here are so detached from reality. Don’t let politics play into your financial strategy. You’ll get burned.

It’s funny to think - everyone in this thread predicting the second Great Depression must have taken some pretty drastic action back in April. (If they feel this way now they clearly felt this way or worse when the market cratered back then and panic sold at a low). Imagine missing out on the insane gains since then? Wild to think about.

What are we up another 1% today? Market keeps rolling.

I’m not missing gains. I’m in the market now, but I’m watching the walls slowly crumble. Jobs reports, REAL inflation, geopolitical strife, gold non-stop rising which is a sign of dollar falling, tariffs effects coming, we are also just straight up due for a cyclical market turn.

I’m buying gold ETFs as a hedge. They are better than Bitcoin. And probably better than a lot of bonds at this point. I’ll hold for a while. I’m in GDXU and it’s gone up almost 100% in 6 months.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read through all the threads, but curious if people are buying way out-of-the money S&P puts or similar options.

I know that is how the Black Swan guy and others made a fortune during the 2008/09 financial crisis (in addition to figuring out how to short Mortgage Bonds).

I don’t play options. But I will look into SOXL, SH, spxs and some of the inverse ETFs if the market slides.

At this point I’m stacking gold bullion ETFs and waiting. They’ll stay high in a crash, but can be sold to buy cheap stocks.

Why would they stay high in a crash? In a crash, people (especially hedge funds) need to raise cash however they can, so they will sell your gold bullion ETFs just like any other stock.

There is a modicum of truth to this, but gold generally rose during the last crashes 2008-2009 and during COVID years. There are also different conditions to consider this go around.

[Anonymous]

Is there an etf that shorts soybeans? Cuz that sht be fked yo. They can sell them shts to annuyyyyone right now son. I guess they FAFO with the voting tho. Cheap farmland for rich folks to buy up soon too. It is what it is.

[Anonymous]

Can’t sell them.