Cambridge University student on “elite” educations of members of Congress

[Anonymous]

Barnard should be there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown, UVA, and Vanderbilt are still excellent undergraduate schools and arguably would have had their undergraduate schools included if the methodology was slightly altered.

Essentially, the author decided to focus on the frequency of occurrences in USNWR top 20 instead of 25 over some number of years. While Vanderbilt has ranked well into the top 20 for most of the past decade, it was ranked between 20-25 in the 1990s. Georgetown has consistently ranked in the top 20-25, and UVA has hovered around 25.

I don’t think this means much, especially when you consider the LACs included, which if slotted in among national universities in USNWR national university rankings might rank lower than Georgetown, Vanderbilt, and UVA.

When considering undergraduate education the SLACs on this list are the equal of ANY institution on the list. That is not to say that Georgetown and Vandy aren't excellent schools; they are but they have nothing on any of the SLACs on that list for a classical liberal arts education.

UVA is also an excellent school but no Public school belongs in any serious discussion of the best schools for undergraduate education. It isn't their mission and if they were focused on it they would have to drastically reduce the pool of students eligible to attend from within their state borders.

There liberal arts mission doesn't make them elite in any way. The only LACs that compare to Vandy, Georgetown, Emory are WASP.

Reading comprehension isn’t a strength for you based on your response. Also, you might want to bone up on the difference between ‘there’ and ‘their’.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Barnard should be there.

Agreed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown, UVA, and Vanderbilt are still excellent undergraduate schools and arguably would have had their undergraduate schools included if the methodology was slightly altered.

Essentially, the author decided to focus on the frequency of occurrences in USNWR top 20 instead of 25 over some number of years. While Vanderbilt has ranked well into the top 20 for most of the past decade, it was ranked between 20-25 in the 1990s. Georgetown has consistently ranked in the top 20-25, and UVA has hovered around 25.

I don’t think this means much, especially when you consider the LACs included, which if slotted in among national universities in USNWR national university rankings might rank lower than Georgetown, Vanderbilt, and UVA.

When considering undergraduate education the SLACs on this list are the equal of ANY institution on the list. That is not to say that Georgetown and Vandy aren't excellent schools; they are but they have nothing on any of the SLACs on that list for a classical liberal arts education.

UVA is also an excellent school but no Public school belongs in any serious discussion of the best schools for undergraduate education. It isn't their mission and if they were focused on it they would have to drastically reduce the pool of students eligible to attend from within their state borders.

There liberal arts mission doesn't make them elite in any way. The only LACs that compare to Vandy, Georgetown, Emory are WASP.

You are delusional if you believe that WASP is somehow better than the other 6 SLACs with basically identical stats. And, you are even more delusional if you think that Vandy, Georgetown, and especially Emory are the equal of any of the top dozen SALCs.

You're talking about stats when Emory, Vandy and Georgetown have higher stats with more students submitting test scores. There's no such thing as top dozen LACs past WASP, Maybe Wellesley they're all middling schools.

Mind you,
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Emory+University&with=Vassar+College
More students pick Emory over Vassar.

[Anonymous]

What you consider elite I would consider plebeian. People have been arguing over this stuff for centuries. Engaging in this sort of thing is certainly a sign of low IQ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is actually pretty striking:

I read that as the flip from Dems being party of working class to now Reps being the party of the working class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown, UVA, and Vanderbilt are still excellent undergraduate schools and arguably would have had their undergraduate schools included if the methodology was slightly altered.

Essentially, the author decided to focus on the frequency of occurrences in USNWR top 20 instead of 25 over some number of years. While Vanderbilt has ranked well into the top 20 for most of the past decade, it was ranked between 20-25 in the 1990s. Georgetown has consistently ranked in the top 20-25, and UVA has hovered around 25.

I don’t think this means much, especially when you consider the LACs included, which if slotted in among national universities in USNWR national university rankings might rank lower than Georgetown, Vanderbilt, and UVA.

When considering undergraduate education the SLACs on this list are the equal of ANY institution on the list. That is not to say that Georgetown and Vandy aren't excellent schools; they are but they have nothing on any of the SLACs on that list for a classical liberal arts education.

UVA is also an excellent school but no Public school belongs in any serious discussion of the best schools for undergraduate education. It isn't their mission and if they were focused on it they would have to drastically reduce the pool of students eligible to attend from within their state borders.

There liberal arts mission doesn't make them elite in any way. The only LACs that compare to Vandy, Georgetown, Emory are WASP.

You are delusional if you believe that WASP is somehow better than the other 6 SLACs with basically identical stats. And, you are even more delusional if you think that Vandy, Georgetown, and especially Emory are the equal of any of the top dozen SALCs.

You're talking about stats when Emory, Vandy and Georgetown have higher stats with more students submitting test scores. There's no such thing as top dozen LACs past WASP, Maybe Wellesley they're all middling schools.

Mind you,
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Emory+University&with=Vassar+College
More students pick Emory over Vassar.

Emory get crushed in cross admits by UC schools which nobody with any real knowledge of undergraduate education would consider elite. Scurry along little girl.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown, UVA, and Vanderbilt are still excellent undergraduate schools and arguably would have had their undergraduate schools included if the methodology was slightly altered.

Essentially, the author decided to focus on the frequency of occurrences in USNWR top 20 instead of 25 over some number of years. While Vanderbilt has ranked well into the top 20 for most of the past decade, it was ranked between 20-25 in the 1990s. Georgetown has consistently ranked in the top 20-25, and UVA has hovered around 25.

I don’t think this means much, especially when you consider the LACs included, which if slotted in among national universities in USNWR national university rankings might rank lower than Georgetown, Vanderbilt, and UVA.

When considering undergraduate education the SLACs on this list are the equal of ANY institution on the list. That is not to say that Georgetown and Vandy aren't excellent schools; they are but they have nothing on any of the SLACs on that list for a classical liberal arts education.

UVA is also an excellent school but no Public school belongs in any serious discussion of the best schools for undergraduate education. It isn't their mission and if they were focused on it they would have to drastically reduce the pool of students eligible to attend from within their state borders.

There liberal arts mission doesn't make them elite in any way. The only LACs that compare to Vandy, Georgetown, Emory are WASP.

You are delusional if you believe that WASP is somehow better than the other 6 SLACs with basically identical stats. And, you are even more delusional if you think that Vandy, Georgetown, and especially Emory are the equal of any of the top dozen SALCs.

You're talking about stats when Emory, Vandy and Georgetown have higher stats with more students submitting test scores. There's no such thing as top dozen LACs past WASP, Maybe Wellesley they're all middling schools.

Mind you,
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Emory+University&with=Vassar+College
More students pick Emory over Vassar.

I remember when DCUM laughed at the idea of WASP and thought it was a bot, now it’s used everywhere as if it’s some official designation.

You seriously think there’s no top lacs or lacs doing top level work past 4 lacs US News likes? Really? There’s various LACs leading in different ways: Claremont McKenna, Reed, Harvey mudd, Carleton, Wellesley, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is actually pretty striking:

I read that as the flip from Dems being party of working class to now Reps being the party of the working class.

Most kids go to college in state. The "elite" list is geographically concentrated. That concentration more closely matched the apportionments of the 70s than those of today. Add the concentration of Republicans in States with increased apportionments yields most of the changes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown, UVA, and Vanderbilt are still excellent undergraduate schools and arguably would have had their undergraduate schools included if the methodology was slightly altered.

Essentially, the author decided to focus on the frequency of occurrences in USNWR top 20 instead of 25 over some number of years. While Vanderbilt has ranked well into the top 20 for most of the past decade, it was ranked between 20-25 in the 1990s. Georgetown has consistently ranked in the top 20-25, and UVA has hovered around 25.

I don’t think this means much, especially when you consider the LACs included, which if slotted in among national universities in USNWR national university rankings might rank lower than Georgetown, Vanderbilt, and UVA.

When considering undergraduate education the SLACs on this list are the equal of ANY institution on the list. That is not to say that Georgetown and Vandy aren't excellent schools; they are but they have nothing on any of the SLACs on that list for a classical liberal arts education.

UVA is also an excellent school but no Public school belongs in any serious discussion of the best schools for undergraduate education. It isn't their mission and if they were focused on it they would have to drastically reduce the pool of students eligible to attend from within their state borders.

There liberal arts mission doesn't make them elite in any way. The only LACs that compare to Vandy, Georgetown, Emory are WASP.

You are delusional if you believe that WASP is somehow better than the other 6 SLACs with basically identical stats. And, you are even more delusional if you think that Vandy, Georgetown, and especially Emory are the equal of any of the top dozen SALCs.

You're talking about stats when Emory, Vandy and Georgetown have higher stats with more students submitting test scores. There's no such thing as top dozen LACs past WASP, Maybe Wellesley they're all middling schools.

Mind you,
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Emory+University&with=Vassar+College
More students pick Emory over Vassar.

I remember when DCUM laughed at the idea of WASP and thought it was a bot, now it’s used everywhere as if it’s some official designation.

You seriously think there’s no top lacs or lacs doing top level work past 4 lacs US News likes? Really? There’s various LACs leading in different ways: Claremont McKenna, Reed, Harvey mudd, Carleton, Wellesley, etc.

Never said that. But only.WASP can currently compete with Top 25 universities when it comes to.post grad placement and cross admits. Only WASP is elite and complete the Top 30 colleges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown, UVA, and Vanderbilt are still excellent undergraduate schools and arguably would have had their undergraduate schools included if the methodology was slightly altered.

Essentially, the author decided to focus on the frequency of occurrences in USNWR top 20 instead of 25 over some number of years. While Vanderbilt has ranked well into the top 20 for most of the past decade, it was ranked between 20-25 in the 1990s. Georgetown has consistently ranked in the top 20-25, and UVA has hovered around 25.

I don’t think this means much, especially when you consider the LACs included, which if slotted in among national universities in USNWR national university rankings might rank lower than Georgetown, Vanderbilt, and UVA.

When considering undergraduate education the SLACs on this list are the equal of ANY institution on the list. That is not to say that Georgetown and Vandy aren't excellent schools; they are but they have nothing on any of the SLACs on that list for a classical liberal arts education.

UVA is also an excellent school but no Public school belongs in any serious discussion of the best schools for undergraduate education. It isn't their mission and if they were focused on it they would have to drastically reduce the pool of students eligible to attend from within their state borders.

There liberal arts mission doesn't make them elite in any way. The only LACs that compare to Vandy, Georgetown, Emory are WASP.

You are delusional if you believe that WASP is somehow better than the other 6 SLACs with basically identical stats. And, you are even more delusional if you think that Vandy, Georgetown, and especially Emory are the equal of any of the top dozen SALCs.

You're talking about stats when Emory, Vandy and Georgetown have higher stats with more students submitting test scores. There's no such thing as top dozen LACs past WASP, Maybe Wellesley they're all middling schools.

Mind you,
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Emory+University&with=Vassar+College
More students pick Emory over Vassar.

I remember when DCUM laughed at the idea of WASP and thought it was a bot, now it’s used everywhere as if it’s some official designation.

You seriously think there’s no top lacs or lacs doing top level work past 4 lacs US News likes? Really? There’s various LACs leading in different ways: Claremont McKenna, Reed, Harvey mudd, Carleton, Wellesley, etc.

Never said that. But only.WASP can currently compete with Top 25 universities when it comes to.post grad placement and cross admits. Only WASP is elite and complete the Top 30 colleges.

Nonsense

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good to see Washington & Lee

Washington & Lee is not elite. Seriously comical to include that and leave off Vanderbilt and Georgetown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown, UVA, and Vanderbilt are still excellent undergraduate schools and arguably would have had their undergraduate schools included if the methodology was slightly altered.

Essentially, the author decided to focus on the frequency of occurrences in USNWR top 20 instead of 25 over some number of years. While Vanderbilt has ranked well into the top 20 for most of the past decade, it was ranked between 20-25 in the 1990s. Georgetown has consistently ranked in the top 20-25, and UVA has hovered around 25.

I don’t think this means much, especially when you consider the LACs included, which if slotted in among national universities in USNWR national university rankings might rank lower than Georgetown, Vanderbilt, and UVA.

When considering undergraduate education the SLACs on this list are the equal of ANY institution on the list. That is not to say that Georgetown and Vandy aren't excellent schools; they are but they have nothing on any of the SLACs on that list for a classical liberal arts education.

UVA is also an excellent school but no Public school belongs in any serious discussion of the best schools for undergraduate education. It isn't their mission and if they were focused on it they would have to drastically reduce the pool of students eligible to attend from within their state borders.

There liberal arts mission doesn't make them elite in any way. The only LACs that compare to Vandy, Georgetown, Emory are WASP.

You are delusional if you believe that WASP is somehow better than the other 6 SLACs with basically identical stats. And, you are even more delusional if you think that Vandy, Georgetown, and especially Emory are the equal of any of the top dozen SALCs.

You're talking about stats when Emory, Vandy and Georgetown have higher stats with more students submitting test scores. There's no such thing as top dozen LACs past WASP, Maybe Wellesley they're all middling schools.

Mind you,
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Emory+University&with=Vassar+College
More students pick Emory over Vassar.

I remember when DCUM laughed at the idea of WASP and thought it was a bot, now it’s used everywhere as if it’s some official designation.

You seriously think there’s no top lacs or lacs doing top level work past 4 lacs US News likes? Really? There’s various LACs leading in different ways: Claremont McKenna, Reed, Harvey mudd, Carleton, Wellesley, etc.

Never said that. But only.WASP can currently compete with Top 25 universities when it comes to.post grad placement and cross admits. Only WASP is elite and complete the Top 30 colleges.

I don't really get this response. What kind of outcomes? Finance? Because only really williams out of WASP is leading for finance. Grad school? Sure, but even for an LAC, that's a small percent of students immediately out of college, when most of these outcomes rankings are created. Fellowship attainment? Harvard is leagues above anyone else.