I've worked with Corey Booker and he's brilliant. What are your credentials and what do your co-workers say about you? |
Great school! |
Why is this surprising? The ones they list as elite are the ones most people consider elite plus a few borderline ones, and the ones that are targeted by elite companies. Publics are not elite for undergrad because they lower the standard to take a large group in state: they do not have nearly the same peer quality as the top10-15 privates. Any professor could tell you that. |
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Here is their list of the undergraduate “elite”:
Amherst Bowdoin Brown Cal Tech Carleton Claremont McKenna Colgate Columbia Cornell Dartmouth Davidson Duke Grinnell Harvard Haverford Hopkins MIT Middlebury Northwestern Pomona Princeton Rice Smith Stanford Swarthmore UChicago UNotre Dane UPenn Vassar Washington & Lee WashU Wellesley Wesleyan Williams Yale |
| Good to see Washington & Lee |
| No Georgetown, no Northeastern, No NYU, No Tulane, No Vandy, No Kenyon, No Denison, No Emory, none of the second tiers that the DMV private school parents have convinced themselves are now “elite” |
It's actually a pretty good list. There might be an argument to be made to add a few more schools but there isn't a single school in that list which doesn't belong there. The problems arise where people try to argue that one or some of these schools are somehow better than the others because for undergraduate education not a single school on this list is actually better than any of the others. |
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Georgetown, UVA, and Vanderbilt are still excellent undergraduate schools and arguably would have had their undergraduate schools included if the methodology was slightly altered.
Essentially, the author decided to focus on the frequency of occurrences in USNWR top 20 instead of 25 over some number of years. While Vanderbilt has ranked well into the top 20 for most of the past decade, it was ranked between 20-25 in the 1990s. Georgetown has consistently ranked in the top 20-25, and UVA has hovered around 25. I don’t think this means much, especially when you consider the LACs included, which if slotted in among national universities in USNWR national university rankings might rank lower than Georgetown, Vanderbilt, and UVA. |
Unfortunately the previous poster is correct. Adam Schiff is a terrible person who blatantly lies while clearly deluding himself into thinking he is right. I would not hold himself up as an ideal of elite education. -- double Ivy grad who finds this paper silly and meaningless. |
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Remove these:
Bowdoin Carleton Colgate Davidson Haverford Smith Washington and Lee Wesleyan ( may be) |
| Omission of Vanderbilt is understandable |
Ha! So you only like the author’s method when they select your favorite institutions? Sorry, but all your deletions are elite schools. |
This. |
5 degrees (including doctorate) & they think I’m brilliant. Tell your buddy Cory that I still think he’s a moron. |
| There is no such thing as an "elite" education. |