Anyone move their DC to algebra in 6th

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of doing it? If you all think your child will have a better chance at a top 15 then you are mistaken. Its not going to help. My DC took Algebra in 6th, pre calculus in 9th, MV, AP stats, linear algebra all by 12th grade. In addition to other AP science classes. He was waitlisted and then denied at MIT as well as other Ivy League schools. He was accepted to UMich, Georgia Tech etc.. but so were others who didn’t take all these advanced math classes. Most students at our large public who were accepted to Ivy schools were legacies and athletic recruits who did not take any such advanced classes. So chill..

You don't get it. My kid just wanted to not be bored in class. Accelerated math is the ONLY class where she doesn't pull out a book to read.

I couldn't care less about colleges. She'll do well wherever she goes.

You really must understand that different kids have different needs.

Yeah this was the issue we had with our child's fifth grade class, where the teacher refused to recommend anyone for Algebra the next year.

The teacher wouldn't respond to parent questions about why they weren't recommending students for Algebra but during class would tell students that Algebra was too advanced and hard and no one should be taking it in sixth grade.

Part of the issue with the leveling we had is that towards the end of the marking period, our kid was doing nothing and when we asked why, they would respond saying that their teacher said that their class moved faster than the rest of the county and finished the curriculum for the marking period. So they didn't have to do anything until the next marking period.

We're talking about a whole class, not just a couple of students in a class and this was a couple of weeks too.

So success in high school is a concern. But we need for our kid to be challenged and learning during class and is why we wanted them on the accelerated path compared to the one they were already on.

The ms decides not the es teacher.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of doing it? If you all think your child will have a better chance at a top 15 then you are mistaken. Its not going to help. My DC took Algebra in 6th, pre calculus in 9th, MV, AP stats, linear algebra all by 12th grade. In addition to other AP science classes. He was waitlisted and then denied at MIT as well as other Ivy League schools. He was accepted to UMich, Georgia Tech etc.. but so were others who didn’t take all these advanced math classes. Most students at our large public who were accepted to Ivy schools were legacies and athletic recruits who did not take any such advanced classes. So chill..

You don't get it. My kid just wanted to not be bored in class. Accelerated math is the ONLY class where she doesn't pull out a book to read.

I couldn't care less about colleges. She'll do well wherever she goes.

You really must understand that different kids have different needs.

I get it. I have one of those kids. 260 map-m in third grade. It’s ok to be a little bored. What you aren’t thinking about is down the road. Most HS don’t even have the classes to support taking algebra in 7th. Highly doubt whatever MCPS is doing with the magnets is improving this.

PP you replied to. She's in high school now, and will either go to UMD or CC for an additional math class or take AP Stats at her high school after multivariable calc.

This isn't a little boredom. I cannot ask her to be miserable her entire K-12 years and be depressed. She was depressed before. She's accelerated everywhere as much as her high school has allowed her to be. She's taking two languages to AP level, for example. She has skipped some pre-requisites to do all the core STEM APs.

We thought about homeschooling, because she's way beyond the typical level of a high schooler, but she has friends at this high school. MCPS serves her social needs.

My other kids are not like this, and were satisfactorily challenged by their AP classes and their normal academic tracks. But sometimes, you get a kid like my daughter, and just like for students with special needs, it becomes really worthwhile to fight for a different academic track. In fact, I'll go so far as to say that she does have special needs... of a different sort, that's all.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of doing it? If you all think your child will have a better chance at a top 15 then you are mistaken. Its not going to help. My DC took Algebra in 6th, pre calculus in 9th, MV, AP stats, linear algebra all by 12th grade. In addition to other AP science classes. He was waitlisted and then denied at MIT as well as other Ivy League schools. He was accepted to UMich, Georgia Tech etc.. but so were others who didn’t take all these advanced math classes. Most students at our large public who were accepted to Ivy schools were legacies and athletic recruits who did not take any such advanced classes. So chill..

This. Actually your kid is better off going slow and getting a better foundation.

No they aren’t. It’s all fluff.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of doing it? If you all think your child will have a better chance at a top 15 then you are mistaken. Its not going to help. My DC took Algebra in 6th, pre calculus in 9th, MV, AP stats, linear algebra all by 12th grade. In addition to other AP science classes. He was waitlisted and then denied at MIT as well as other Ivy League schools. He was accepted to UMich, Georgia Tech etc.. but so were others who didn’t take all these advanced math classes. Most students at our large public who were accepted to Ivy schools were legacies and athletic recruits who did not take any such advanced classes. So chill..

My kid has no interest in ivys or mit. Your kid got into great schools. The point is they enjoy math. You are the competitive one.

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Anonymous wrote:Successfully? What scores do you need to be placed in Algebra 1 in 6th grade?

You need to be at one of the wealthy W feeders and score 250+ on the map-m, but at most schools they aren't setup for this. They wont' do it regardless of scores. For example, at our school a few years back there was a 6th grader in the high 280s and there was no accomodation. They had to take Algebra in 7th like eveyone else.

This is completely untrue. My child was in Algebra in 6th at a DCC middle school that has over 50% FARMS

My child scored in the high 280s on their map-m at our DCC MS and they were not allowed to take algebra in 6th despite scoring higher than most 8th graders who had already taken it.

This and the post you replied and the fact that you are both from DCC: this exactly points out where MCPS should be focusing on first: resolving the policy discrepancies, providing a standard threshold and offer equal opportunities to advanced tracks to all ES and MS.

They do it because the dcc schools are lesser the w schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this still a problem for the kids who take algebra in 7th grade? I have kid who is fine in math. She took AIM in 6th grade last year, so Algebra was the next class in the track. She is not passionate about math, but pushes herself to get A’s. Any recommendations? We are in the BCC cluster too.

8th. -geometry
9th algebra 2
10th pre-calc
11th AP Calc AB/ BC
12th AP Calc BC if AB done in 11th or AP Stats or multivariable

There, see, totally done. Not every school will have these options but BCC does

A child who does Algebra in 6th winds up in precalc in 9th not 10th

This is an advanced math thread, not an advanced reading thread, but still, try to keep up.

Why are you being snarky?

My child took algebra in 6, geo in 7 and algebra 2 in 8th (middle school teacher taught it at the middle school they didnt get sent to HS for the class). After Algebra 2, precalc is the 9th grade class for those who take Algebra 1 in 6th. Maybe it has changed now fof younger grades but that was the pathway for an algebra in 6 child who is currently a senior.

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Anonymous wrote:Successfully? What scores do you need to be placed in Algebra 1 in 6th grade?

You need to be at one of the wealthy W feeders and score 250+ on the map-m, but at most schools they aren't setup for this. They wont' do it regardless of scores. For example, at our school a few years back there was a 6th grader in the high 280s and there was no accomodation. They had to take Algebra in 7th like eveyone else.

This is completely untrue. My child was in Algebra in 6th at a DCC middle school that has over 50% FARMS

My child scored in the high 280s on their map-m at our DCC MS and they were not allowed to take algebra in 6th despite scoring higher than most 8th graders who had already taken it.

I didnt say *every* DCC school allows it, just that my child's did, disproving the PP who said only weathly schools offer the option. That is untrue.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of doing it? If you all think your child will have a better chance at a top 15 then you are mistaken. Its not going to help. My DC took Algebra in 6th, pre calculus in 9th, MV, AP stats, linear algebra all by 12th grade. In addition to other AP science classes. He was waitlisted and then denied at MIT as well as other Ivy League schools. He was accepted to UMich, Georgia Tech etc.. but so were others who didn’t take all these advanced math classes. Most students at our large public who were accepted to Ivy schools were legacies and athletic recruits who did not take any such advanced classes. So chill..

You don't get it. My kid just wanted to not be bored in class. Accelerated math is the ONLY class where she doesn't pull out a book to read.

I couldn't care less about colleges. She'll do well wherever she goes.

You really must understand that different kids have different needs.

I get it. I have one of those kids. 260 map-m in third grade. It’s ok to be a little bored. What you aren’t thinking about is down the road. Most HS don’t even have the classes to support taking algebra in 7th. Highly doubt whatever MCPS is doing with the magnets is improving this.

PP you replied to. She's in high school now, and will either go to UMD or CC for an additional math class or take AP Stats at her high school after multivariable calc.

This isn't a little boredom. I cannot ask her to be miserable her entire K-12 years and be depressed. She was depressed before. She's accelerated everywhere as much as her high school has allowed her to be. She's taking two languages to AP level, for example. She has skipped some pre-requisites to do all the core STEM APs.

We thought about homeschooling, because she's way beyond the typical level of a high schooler, but she has friends at this high school. MCPS serves her social needs.

My other kids are not like this, and were satisfactorily challenged by their AP classes and their normal academic tracks. But sometimes, you get a kid like my daughter, and just like for students with special needs, it becomes really worthwhile to fight for a different academic track. In fact, I'll go so far as to say that she does have special needs... of a different sort, that's all.

Then you should have had her apply to magnet or do dual enrollment.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of doing it? If you all think your child will have a better chance at a top 15 then you are mistaken. Its not going to help. My DC took Algebra in 6th, pre calculus in 9th, MV, AP stats, linear algebra all by 12th grade. In addition to other AP science classes. He was waitlisted and then denied at MIT as well as other Ivy League schools. He was accepted to UMich, Georgia Tech etc.. but so were others who didn’t take all these advanced math classes. Most students at our large public who were accepted to Ivy schools were legacies and athletic recruits who did not take any such advanced classes. So chill..

You don't get it. My kid just wanted to not be bored in class. Accelerated math is the ONLY class where she doesn't pull out a book to read.

I couldn't care less about colleges. She'll do well wherever she goes.

You really must understand that different kids have different needs.

Yeah this was the issue we had with our child's fifth grade class, where the teacher refused to recommend anyone for Algebra the next year.

The teacher wouldn't respond to parent questions about why they weren't recommending students for Algebra but during class would tell students that Algebra was too advanced and hard and no one should be taking it in sixth grade.

Part of the issue with the leveling we had is that towards the end of the marking period, our kid was doing nothing and when we asked why, they would respond saying that their teacher said that their class moved faster than the rest of the county and finished the curriculum for the marking period. So they didn't have to do anything until the next marking period.

We're talking about a whole class, not just a couple of students in a class and this was a couple of weeks too.

So success in high school is a concern. But we need for our kid to be challenged and learning during class and is why we wanted them on the accelerated path compared to the one they were already on.

The ms decides not the es teacher.

They do. But at our kid's MS they also say they base things 90 percent off of the 5th grade teacher's recommendation.

So it's harder to have your child placed in Algebra as a 6th grader if the fifth grade teacher didn't recommend it, at least at our school.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of doing it? If you all think your child will have a better chance at a top 15 then you are mistaken. Its not going to help. My DC took Algebra in 6th, pre calculus in 9th, MV, AP stats, linear algebra all by 12th grade. In addition to other AP science classes. He was waitlisted and then denied at MIT as well as other Ivy League schools. He was accepted to UMich, Georgia Tech etc.. but so were others who didn’t take all these advanced math classes. Most students at our large public who were accepted to Ivy schools were legacies and athletic recruits who did not take any such advanced classes. So chill..

You don't get it. My kid just wanted to not be bored in class. Accelerated math is the ONLY class where she doesn't pull out a book to read.

I couldn't care less about colleges. She'll do well wherever she goes.

You really must understand that different kids have different needs.

I get it. I have one of those kids. 260 map-m in third grade. It’s ok to be a little bored. What you aren’t thinking about is down the road. Most HS don’t even have the classes to support taking algebra in 7th. Highly doubt whatever MCPS is doing with the magnets is improving this.

PP you replied to. She's in high school now, and will either go to UMD or CC for an additional math class or take AP Stats at her high school after multivariable calc.

This isn't a little boredom. I cannot ask her to be miserable her entire K-12 years and be depressed. She was depressed before. She's accelerated everywhere as much as her high school has allowed her to be. She's taking two languages to AP level, for example. She has skipped some pre-requisites to do all the core STEM APs.

We thought about homeschooling, because she's way beyond the typical level of a high schooler, but she has friends at this high school. MCPS serves her social needs.

My other kids are not like this, and were satisfactorily challenged by their AP classes and their normal academic tracks. But sometimes, you get a kid like my daughter, and just like for students with special needs, it becomes really worthwhile to fight for a different academic track. In fact, I'll go so far as to say that she does have special needs... of a different sort, that's all.

Then you should have had her apply to magnet or do dual enrollment.

DP: There aren't enough slots in magnets. You'd probably have to cosa but we were told no. MC is impossible due to activities and transportation and online conflicts with other classes and activities.

MCPS should align the HS schedules and offer it virtually if they will not at each school.

A typical path could be:

6th: Algebra
7th: Geometry
8th: Algebra 2
9th: Precalculus
10th: Calc AB or BC
11: Calc BC or MV
12: Linear Algebra or Statistics or something else

Also, with the inequity in MCPS, they will bus some kids to a different school for math, but not others. I've heard them bus 1-2 kids for other schools but they refused to bus mine.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of doing it? If you all think your child will have a better chance at a top 15 then you are mistaken. Its not going to help. My DC took Algebra in 6th, pre calculus in 9th, MV, AP stats, linear algebra all by 12th grade. In addition to other AP science classes. He was waitlisted and then denied at MIT as well as other Ivy League schools. He was accepted to UMich, Georgia Tech etc.. but so were others who didn’t take all these advanced math classes. Most students at our large public who were accepted to Ivy schools were legacies and athletic recruits who did not take any such advanced classes. So chill..

You don't get it. My kid just wanted to not be bored in class. Accelerated math is the ONLY class where she doesn't pull out a book to read.

I couldn't care less about colleges. She'll do well wherever she goes.

You really must understand that different kids have different needs.

Yeah this was the issue we had with our child's fifth grade class, where the teacher refused to recommend anyone for Algebra the next year.

The teacher wouldn't respond to parent questions about why they weren't recommending students for Algebra but during class would tell students that Algebra was too advanced and hard and no one should be taking it in sixth grade.

Part of the issue with the leveling we had is that towards the end of the marking period, our kid was doing nothing and when we asked why, they would respond saying that their teacher said that their class moved faster than the rest of the county and finished the curriculum for the marking period. So they didn't have to do anything until the next marking period.

We're talking about a whole class, not just a couple of students in a class and this was a couple of weeks too.

So success in high school is a concern. But we need for our kid to be challenged and learning during class and is why we wanted them on the accelerated path compared to the one they were already on.

The ms decides not the es teacher.

They do. But at our kid's MS they also say they base things 90 percent off of the 5th grade teacher's recommendation.

So it's harder to have your child placed in Algebra as a 6th grader if the fifth grade teacher didn't recommend it, at least at our school.

Then you go to central office, BOE and make a HUGE stink. That's the only way I've gotten things to happen. You need to contact the MS principal and discuss that teacher with them.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of doing it? If you all think your child will have a better chance at a top 15 then you are mistaken. Its not going to help. My DC took Algebra in 6th, pre calculus in 9th, MV, AP stats, linear algebra all by 12th grade. In addition to other AP science classes. He was waitlisted and then denied at MIT as well as other Ivy League schools. He was accepted to UMich, Georgia Tech etc.. but so were others who didn’t take all these advanced math classes. Most students at our large public who were accepted to Ivy schools were legacies and athletic recruits who did not take any such advanced classes. So chill..

You don't get it. My kid just wanted to not be bored in class. Accelerated math is the ONLY class where she doesn't pull out a book to read.

I couldn't care less about colleges. She'll do well wherever she goes.

You really must understand that different kids have different needs.

I get it. I have one of those kids. 260 map-m in third grade. It’s ok to be a little bored. What you aren’t thinking about is down the road. Most HS don’t even have the classes to support taking algebra in 7th. Highly doubt whatever MCPS is doing with the magnets is improving this.

PP you replied to. She's in high school now, and will either go to UMD or CC for an additional math class or take AP Stats at her high school after multivariable calc.

This isn't a little boredom. I cannot ask her to be miserable her entire K-12 years and be depressed. She was depressed before. She's accelerated everywhere as much as her high school has allowed her to be. She's taking two languages to AP level, for example. She has skipped some pre-requisites to do all the core STEM APs.

We thought about homeschooling, because she's way beyond the typical level of a high schooler, but she has friends at this high school. MCPS serves her social needs.

My other kids are not like this, and were satisfactorily challenged by their AP classes and their normal academic tracks. But sometimes, you get a kid like my daughter, and just like for students with special needs, it becomes really worthwhile to fight for a different academic track. In fact, I'll go so far as to say that she does have special needs... of a different sort, that's all.

Then you should have had her apply to magnet or do dual enrollment.

PP you replied to. No. The magnet is far away and she did not want the commute. I'm not sure she would have been that much more challenged anyway, to be honest. We know kids at Blair.

As for dual enrollment, she's doing all the APs at her school and has a few options for later, including CC and UMD. She still has a few years left of high school.

We prepared for this plan many years ago, since she did Alg 1 in 6th, and are satisfied with it. It's the best plan for her. I am posting to defend kids like her from posters who think that it's useless to ask for more acceleration.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of doing it? If you all think your child will have a better chance at a top 15 then you are mistaken. Its not going to help. My DC took Algebra in 6th, pre calculus in 9th, MV, AP stats, linear algebra all by 12th grade. In addition to other AP science classes. He was waitlisted and then denied at MIT as well as other Ivy League schools. He was accepted to UMich, Georgia Tech etc.. but so were others who didn’t take all these advanced math classes. Most students at our large public who were accepted to Ivy schools were legacies and athletic recruits who did not take any such advanced classes. So chill..

You don't get it. My kid just wanted to not be bored in class. Accelerated math is the ONLY class where she doesn't pull out a book to read.

I couldn't care less about colleges. She'll do well wherever she goes.

You really must understand that different kids have different needs.

I get it. I have one of those kids. 260 map-m in third grade. It’s ok to be a little bored. What you aren’t thinking about is down the road. Most HS don’t even have the classes to support taking algebra in 7th. Highly doubt whatever MCPS is doing with the magnets is improving this.

PP you replied to. She's in high school now, and will either go to UMD or CC for an additional math class or take AP Stats at her high school after multivariable calc.

This isn't a little boredom. I cannot ask her to be miserable her entire K-12 years and be depressed. She was depressed before. She's accelerated everywhere as much as her high school has allowed her to be. She's taking two languages to AP level, for example. She has skipped some pre-requisites to do all the core STEM APs.

We thought about homeschooling, because she's way beyond the typical level of a high schooler, but she has friends at this high school. MCPS serves her social needs.

My other kids are not like this, and were satisfactorily challenged by their AP classes and their normal academic tracks. But sometimes, you get a kid like my daughter, and just like for students with special needs, it becomes really worthwhile to fight for a different academic track. In fact, I'll go so far as to say that she does have special needs... of a different sort, that's all.

Then you should have had her apply to magnet or do dual enrollment.

PP you replied to. No. The magnet is far away and she did not want the commute. I'm not sure she would have been that much more challenged anyway, to be honest. We know kids at Blair.

As for dual enrollment, she's doing all the APs at her school and has a few options for later, including CC and UMD. She still has a few years left of high school.

We prepared for this plan many years ago, since she did Alg 1 in 6th, and are satisfied with it. It's the best plan for her. I am posting to defend kids like her from posters who think that it's useless to ask for more acceleration.

The other issue with Blair Magnet is you have to take a very strict course schedule with no flexibility, and extra classes on top of a long commute. Not all kids want that specific curriculum.

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Anonymous wrote:Successfully? What scores do you need to be placed in Algebra 1 in 6th grade?

You need to be at one of the wealthy W feeders and score 250+ on the map-m, but at most schools they aren't setup for this. They wont' do it regardless of scores. For example, at our school a few years back there was a 6th grader in the high 280s and there was no accomodation. They had to take Algebra in 7th like eveyone else.

This is completely untrue. My child was in Algebra in 6th at a DCC middle school that has over 50% FARMS

My child scored in the high 280s on their map-m at our DCC MS and they were not allowed to take algebra in 6th despite scoring higher than most 8th graders who had already taken it.

This and the post you replied and the fact that you are both from DCC: this exactly points out where MCPS should be focusing on first: resolving the policy discrepancies, providing a standard threshold and offer equal opportunities to advanced tracks to all ES and MS.

Offering classes only helps if kids take them. My kid at a DCC school was signed up for BC Calc but it didn’t fit into their schedule. Too many of the upper level courses are offered only one period a day, due to lack of demand.

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Anonymous wrote:Successfully? What scores do you need to be placed in Algebra 1 in 6th grade?

You need to be at one of the wealthy W feeders and score 250+ on the map-m, but at most schools they aren't setup for this. They wont' do it regardless of scores. For example, at our school a few years back there was a 6th grader in the high 280s and there was no accomodation. They had to take Algebra in 7th like eveyone else.

This is completely untrue. My child was in Algebra in 6th at a DCC middle school that has over 50% FARMS

My child scored in the high 280s on their map-m at our DCC MS and they were not allowed to take algebra in 6th despite scoring higher than most 8th graders who had already taken it.

This and the post you replied and the fact that you are both from DCC: this exactly points out where MCPS should be focusing on first: resolving the policy discrepancies, providing a standard threshold and offer equal opportunities to advanced tracks to all ES and MS.

Offering classes only helps if kids take them. My kid at a DCC school was signed up for BC Calc but it didn’t fit into their schedule. Too many of the upper level courses are offered only one period a day, due to lack of demand.

I think there would be be more demand if encouraged. Our AP is very hostile to kids taking a few AP courses and the admin discourages kids from directly going into BC. For us, everything revolves around math.