Anyone move their DC to algebra in 6th

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this still a problem for the kids who take algebra in 7th grade? I have kid who is fine in math. She took AIM in 6th grade last year, so Algebra was the next class in the track. She is not passionate about math, but pushes herself to get A’s. Any recommendations? We are in the BCC cluster too.

8th. -geometry
9th algebra 2
10th pre-calc
11th AP Calc AB/ BC
12th AP Calc BC if AB done in 11th or AP Stats or multivariable

There, see, totally done. Not every school will have these options but BCC does

A child who does Algebra in 6 th winds up in precalc in 9th not 10th

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Successfully? What scores do you need to be placed in Algebra 1 in 6th grade?

You need to be at one of the wealthy W feeders and score 250+ on the map-m, but at most schools they aren't setup for this. They wont' do it regardless of scores. For example, at our school a few years back there was a 6th grader in the high 280s and there was no accomodation. They had to take Algebra in 7th like eveyone else.

This is completely untrue. My child was in Algebra in 6th at a DCC middle school that has over 50% FARMS

[Anonymous]

What is the point of doing it? If you all think your child will have a better chance at a top 15 then you are mistaken. Its not going to help. My DC took Algebra in 6th, pre calculus in 9th, MV, AP stats, linear algebra all by 12th grade. In addition to other AP science classes. He was waitlisted and then denied at MIT as well as other Ivy League schools. He was accepted to UMich, Georgia Tech etc.. but so were others who didn’t take all these advanced math classes. Most students at our large public who were accepted to Ivy schools were legacies and athletic recruits who did not take any such advanced classes. So chill..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Successfully? What scores do you need to be placed in Algebra 1 in 6th grade?

You need to be at one of the wealthy W feeders and score 250+ on the map-m, but at most schools they aren't setup for this. They wont' do it regardless of scores. For example, at our school a few years back there was a 6th grader in the high 280s and there was no accomodation. They had to take Algebra in 7th like eveyone else.

This is completely untrue. My child was in Algebra in 6th at a DCC middle school that has over 50% FARMS

My child scored in the high 280s on their map-m at our DCC MS and they were not allowed to take algebra in 6th despite scoring higher than most 8th graders who had already taken it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is the point of doing it? If you all think your child will have a better chance at a top 15 then you are mistaken. Its not going to help. My DC took Algebra in 6th, pre calculus in 9th, MV, AP stats, linear algebra all by 12th grade. In addition to other AP science classes. He was waitlisted and then denied at MIT as well as other Ivy League schools. He was accepted to UMich, Georgia Tech etc.. but so were others who didn’t take all these advanced math classes. Most students at our large public who were accepted to Ivy schools were legacies and athletic recruits who did not take any such advanced classes. So chill..

This. Actually your kid is better off going slow and getting a better foundation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is the point of doing it? If you all think your child will have a better chance at a top 15 then you are mistaken. Its not going to help. My DC took Algebra in 6th, pre calculus in 9th, MV, AP stats, linear algebra all by 12th grade. In addition to other AP science classes. He was waitlisted and then denied at MIT as well as other Ivy League schools. He was accepted to UMich, Georgia Tech etc.. but so were others who didn’t take all these advanced math classes. Most students at our large public who were accepted to Ivy schools were legacies and athletic recruits who did not take any such advanced classes. So chill..

You don't get it. My kid just wanted to not be bored in class. Accelerated math is the ONLY class where she doesn't pull out a book to read.

I couldn't care less about colleges. She'll do well wherever she goes.

You really must understand that different kids have different needs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the point of doing it? If you all think your child will have a better chance at a top 15 then you are mistaken. Its not going to help. My DC took Algebra in 6th, pre calculus in 9th, MV, AP stats, linear algebra all by 12th grade. In addition to other AP science classes. He was waitlisted and then denied at MIT as well as other Ivy League schools. He was accepted to UMich, Georgia Tech etc.. but so were others who didn’t take all these advanced math classes. Most students at our large public who were accepted to Ivy schools were legacies and athletic recruits who did not take any such advanced classes. So chill..

You don't get it. My kid just wanted to not be bored in class. Accelerated math is the ONLY class where she doesn't pull out a book to read.

I couldn't care less about colleges. She'll do well wherever she goes.

You really must understand that different kids have different needs.

I get it. I have one of those kids. 260 map-m in third grade. It’s ok to be a little bored. What you aren’t thinking about is down the road. Most HS don’t even have the classes to support taking algebra in 7th. Highly doubt whatever MCPS is doing with the magnets is improving this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:250 seems low? My 4th grader had a 254 on MAP-M at the end of 3rd last year. That’s making me wonder if I should ask if she can go into Compacted 5/6 instead of 4/5….

It’s a different test.

The tests overlap and the scoring scales are coordinated. But 250+ on MAP 2-5 shows "excellent at elementary and good at middle school math". A problem with MCPS is that they don't offer what PP is asking about, which is AIM/Prealgebra in 5th. Algebra I 6th kids have to sit through CM 4/5 and 5/6 first, and then jump past 7/8 into Algebra. So either ES is mind numbing, or it's a mad scramble to prepare over the summer before 6th.

250 is crazy low for Algebra 1 in 6th. 250 is for students who are barely passing Algebra, which is fine, but not for kids on a track for 6 more years after Algebra.

It should be at least 260.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Colleges are saying that they are seeing lots of accelerated kids struggling with advanced college math. This is one reason MCPS is trying to slow down.

Mostly they are saying that non accelerated kids didn't learn HS math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the point of doing it? If you all think your child will have a better chance at a top 15 then you are mistaken. Its not going to help. My DC took Algebra in 6th, pre calculus in 9th, MV, AP stats, linear algebra all by 12th grade. In addition to other AP science classes. He was waitlisted and then denied at MIT as well as other Ivy League schools. He was accepted to UMich, Georgia Tech etc.. but so were others who didn’t take all these advanced math classes. Most students at our large public who were accepted to Ivy schools were legacies and athletic recruits who did not take any such advanced classes. So chill..

You don't get it. My kid just wanted to not be bored in class. Accelerated math is the ONLY class where she doesn't pull out a book to read.

I couldn't care less about colleges. She'll do well wherever she goes.

You really must understand that different kids have different needs.

I get it. I have one of those kids. 260 map-m in third grade. It’s ok to be a little bored. What you aren’t thinking about is down the road. Most HS don’t even have the classes to support taking algebra in 7th. Highly doubt whatever MCPS is doing with the magnets is improving this.

That's what th new regional programs are trying to fix.

Smothering your child's interest in school because educating them is inconvenient is terrible.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of doing it? If you all think your child will have a better chance at a top 15 then you are mistaken. Its not going to help. My DC took Algebra in 6th, pre calculus in 9th, MV, AP stats, linear algebra all by 12th grade. In addition to other AP science classes. He was waitlisted and then denied at MIT as well as other Ivy League schools. He was accepted to UMich, Georgia Tech etc.. but so were others who didn’t take all these advanced math classes. Most students at our large public who were accepted to Ivy schools were legacies and athletic recruits who did not take any such advanced classes. So chill..

This. Actually your kid is better off going slow and getting a better foundation.

Maybe YOUR kid is. You don't know my MY kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this still a problem for the kids who take algebra in 7th grade? I have kid who is fine in math. She took AIM in 6th grade last year, so Algebra was the next class in the track. She is not passionate about math, but pushes herself to get A’s. Any recommendations? We are in the BCC cluster too.

8th. -geometry
9th algebra 2
10th pre-calc
11th AP Calc AB/ BC
12th AP Calc BC if AB done in 11th or AP Stats or multivariable

There, see, totally done. Not every school will have these options but BCC does

A child who does Algebra in 6th winds up in precalc in 9th not 10th

This is an advanced math thread, not an advanced reading thread, but still, try to keep up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Successfully? What scores do you need to be placed in Algebra 1 in 6th grade?

You need to be at one of the wealthy W feeders and score 250+ on the map-m, but at most schools they aren't setup for this. They wont' do it regardless of scores. For example, at our school a few years back there was a 6th grader in the high 280s and there was no accomodation. They had to take Algebra in 7th like eveyone else.

This is completely untrue. My child was in Algebra in 6th at a DCC middle school that has over 50% FARMS

My child scored in the high 280s on their map-m at our DCC MS and they were not allowed to take algebra in 6th despite scoring higher than most 8th graders who had already taken it.

This and the post you replied and the fact that you are both from DCC: this exactly points out where MCPS should be focusing on first: resolving the policy discrepancies, providing a standard threshold and offer equal opportunities to advanced tracks to all ES and MS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the point of doing it? If you all think your child will have a better chance at a top 15 then you are mistaken. Its not going to help. My DC took Algebra in 6th, pre calculus in 9th, MV, AP stats, linear algebra all by 12th grade. In addition to other AP science classes. He was waitlisted and then denied at MIT as well as other Ivy League schools. He was accepted to UMich, Georgia Tech etc.. but so were others who didn’t take all these advanced math classes. Most students at our large public who were accepted to Ivy schools were legacies and athletic recruits who did not take any such advanced classes. So chill..

You don't get it. My kid just wanted to not be bored in class. Accelerated math is the ONLY class where she doesn't pull out a book to read.

I couldn't care less about colleges. She'll do well wherever she goes.

You really must understand that different kids have different needs.

Yeah this was the issue we had with our child's fifth grade class, where the teacher refused to recommend anyone for Algebra the next year.

The teacher wouldn't respond to parent questions about why they weren't recommending students for Algebra but during class would tell students that Algebra was too advanced and hard and no one should be taking it in sixth grade.

Part of the issue with the leveling we had is that towards the end of the marking period, our kid was doing nothing and when we asked why, they would respond saying that their teacher said that their class moved faster than the rest of the county and finished the curriculum for the marking period. So they didn't have to do anything until the next marking period.

We're talking about a whole class, not just a couple of students in a class and this was a couple of weeks too.

So success in high school is a concern. But we need for our kid to be challenged and learning during class and is why we wanted them on the accelerated path compared to the one they were already on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Successfully? What scores do you need to be placed in Algebra 1 in 6th grade?

You need to be at one of the wealthy W feeders and score 250+ on the map-m, but at most schools they aren't setup for this. They wont' do it regardless of scores. For example, at our school a few years back there was a 6th grader in the high 280s and there was no accomodation. They had to take Algebra in 7th like eveyone else.

This is completely untrue. My child was in Algebra in 6th at a DCC middle school that has over 50% FARMS

Mine true. They constantly say this but it’s not true at all.