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"Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt"
An A in AP Physics at TJ speaks for itself. They'll assume you had a bad test day and got a four and are insecure because everyone else got 5s. |
| I can't offer a real opinion having no knowledge of higher ed admissions standards but jeez, I can't believe this would hurt him. I would think these AP physics classes are only offered in a tiny number of HS across the country and within that, only a select few students take them. Coming from a non DMV are but well regarded local school, you kid would be a rockstar! I hope he is proud of his academics, that is amazing. |
100% sorry OP ivies are not in reach! VT will be borderline. UVA moreso. |
Oh come on, it’s just one data point. ECs are more important once your gpa meets the threshold. |
TJ makes it tough. We are DMV where most good publics and privates offer AP physics C, AP chem, AP Bio. The top students even humanities-chasers are strongly encouraged to take at least two of the three to be competitive. Schools internally report 85-95% getting 4s and 5s on these and most AP tests. |
This GPA from TJ does not meet threshold from the naviance data—it would be an outlier meaning needs a big hook. It is around average. TJ does not get the top half of their students into UVA! |
Its an A- though not an A. TJ and many schools are a good deal more inflated than those who are not there realize. For many classes at TJ, well over half get A- and A. In other words A- is average. Of course an average TJ student can easily handle UVA and VT and a non-stem kid with those physics numbers could easily handle an ivy in non-stem. Admissions is not about which kids can handle it is which kids stand out at their high school. The data OP provided indicates he is average not a standout. Ivies are out without a big hook |
Except he’s coming from TJ, and applicants are always compared to their school peers. And even if those scores made him a rockstar elsewhere, that still wouldn’t help much for an Ivy. Ivies have more applicants with unweighted 4.0s, 1600/36, 15 APs with 5s, and national awards in the ECs than they have seats to take them all. Truly rockstar applicants are still a crapshoot at Ivies, and realistically OP’s kid is an even longer shot. It’s not impossible - 3% is still a chance - so go ahead and apply if you want, but be realistic. |
| Go to Boulder Co for Physics. Its one of the top in the country for that subject but overall the acceptance rate is less insane |
What is TJ's threshold from naviance? 4.37 GPA is astromically high elsewhere. Ivies take 4.0 gpa kids all the time. How is it not meeting threshold? |
You’re compared against your peers in your school, not others, so only matters what considered “high” at your school. |
The quality of a top 50% student at TJ is higher than the top 20% of a regular non-test-in student in public school in a suburb of VA/MD. So some schools that really know TJ, will go "deeper" in the class to make offers, rather than a lesser school. |
Maybe UVA and VT will but the Ivies aren't going too. That is the reality of this situation. |
What percentage of TJ accepted to T20 schools? 40%? |
Probably true 10-20 years ago, but colleges these days don’t care about the real quality. They’ve all gone crazy about “diversity “. |