Anyone else's parents/in-laws drink like fish?

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Anonymous wrote:You’re judging people just trying to have fun on their vacation? Maybe spend the evening self-reflecting and tomorrow you can join them. Be sure to leave the stick in the bedroom.

You can’t have fun without drinking alcohol? Alcohol is required for fun? Hmmm. -NP

Alcohol has been associated with fun in most cultures for thousands of years. Don’t act like it is weird.

But now we know so much more about its negative side… like how it causes cancer!

Cave men beat their children and married their sisters, and lived to be 31 - “been doing it for thousands of years” isn’t much of an argument.

There is also strong evidence for its health benefits and its social benefits. People who drink in moderation tend to be significantly healthier and happier than non-drinkers.

There was never any “strong” evidence. There was a series of studies funded by the alcohol industry that suggested it could be healthy for your heart or whatever… those studies have mostly been debunked. Before Trump came in, the govt was moving towards warning labels like cigarettes have: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/03/health/alcohol-surgeon-general-warning.html

I know it’s fun and a lot of people are addicted but it’s getting harder and harder to pretend any of this is a good idea.

Wrong. There are clear health and social benefits. There are also damages to health from alcohol. In recent years many researchers have decided that the negative consequences outweigh the benefits, but few serious researchers argue that some benefits are not real.
For example:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767693
In this cohort study of 19 887 participants from the Health and Retirement Study, with a mean follow-up of 9.1 years, when compared with never drinking, low to moderate drinking was associated with significantly better trajectories of higher cognition scores for mental status, word recall, and vocabulary and with lower rates of decline in each of these cognition domains.

The recent war on alcohol, driven largely by the cannabis industry, drove people to these judgy, uninformed stances on alcohol. It seems reality is slowly starting to sink back in. If I'm lucky enough to hit my late 70s, have grandchildren, and friends to spend time with, you bet I'm going to have fun. I may even have a cigarette with my drink here and there. I can never really understand why old people spend so much time and bandwidth worrying about "long-term" health effects of things. Like, you don't have a long-term, just enjoy the time you have left. And to the judgy millenials--tell them to seek therapy and move on.

Enjoy your stroke.

Boomer will just blame it on her kids for not drinking enough with her.

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Anonymous wrote:You’re judging people just trying to have fun on their vacation? Maybe spend the evening self-reflecting and tomorrow you can join them. Be sure to leave the stick in the bedroom.

You can’t have fun without drinking alcohol? Alcohol is required for fun? Hmmm. -NP

Alcohol has been associated with fun in most cultures for thousands of years. Don’t act like it is weird.

But now we know so much more about its negative side… like how it causes cancer!

Cave men beat their children and married their sisters, and lived to be 31 - “been doing it for thousands of years” isn’t much of an argument.

There is also strong evidence for its health benefits and its social benefits. People who drink in moderation tend to be significantly healthier and happier than non-drinkers.

There was never any “strong” evidence. There was a series of studies funded by the alcohol industry that suggested it could be healthy for your heart or whatever… those studies have mostly been debunked. Before Trump came in, the govt was moving towards warning labels like cigarettes have: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/03/health/alcohol-surgeon-general-warning.html

I know it’s fun and a lot of people are addicted but it’s getting harder and harder to pretend any of this is a good idea.

Wrong. There are clear health and social benefits. There are also damages to health from alcohol. In recent years many researchers have decided that the negative consequences outweigh the benefits, but few serious researchers argue that some benefits are not real.
For example:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767693
In this cohort study of 19 887 participants from the Health and Retirement Study, with a mean follow-up of 9.1 years, when compared with never drinking, low to moderate drinking was associated with significantly better trajectories of higher cognition scores for mental status, word recall, and vocabulary and with lower rates of decline in each of these cognition domains.

The recent war on alcohol, driven largely by the cannabis industry, drove people to these judgy, uninformed stances on alcohol. It seems reality is slowly starting to sink back in. If I'm lucky enough to hit my late 70s, have grandchildren, and friends to spend time with, you bet I'm going to have fun. I may even have a cigarette with my drink here and there. I can never really understand why old people spend so much time and bandwidth worrying about "long-term" health effects of things. Like, you don't have a long-term, just enjoy the time you have left. And to the judgy millenials--tell them to seek therapy and move on.

Enjoy your stroke.

Boomer will just blame it on her kids for not drinking enough with her.

DP, and not a boomer, but good god. You two are super obnoxious and incapable of reading. I too hope that if one day I reach 70 and 80 to be able to relax and not obsess over long term effects of anything. Are you really under the impression that you're going to live 50 more years?

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Anonymous wrote:As long as they aren't ugly drunks, observing your parents get inebriated with their friends and tell stories can be entertaining.

lol sure.

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Anonymous wrote:You’re judging people just trying to have fun on their vacation? Maybe spend the evening self-reflecting and tomorrow you can join them. Be sure to leave the stick in the bedroom.

You can’t have fun without drinking alcohol? Alcohol is required for fun? Hmmm. -NP

Alcohol has been associated with fun in most cultures for thousands of years. Don’t act like it is weird.

But now we know so much more about its negative side… like how it causes cancer!

Cave men beat their children and married their sisters, and lived to be 31 - “been doing it for thousands of years” isn’t much of an argument.

There is also strong evidence for its health benefits and its social benefits. People who drink in moderation tend to be significantly healthier and happier than non-drinkers.

There was never any “strong” evidence. There was a series of studies funded by the alcohol industry that suggested it could be healthy for your heart or whatever… those studies have mostly been debunked. Before Trump came in, the govt was moving towards warning labels like cigarettes have: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/03/health/alcohol-surgeon-general-warning.html

I know it’s fun and a lot of people are addicted but it’s getting harder and harder to pretend any of this is a good idea.

Wrong. There are clear health and social benefits. There are also damages to health from alcohol. In recent years many researchers have decided that the negative consequences outweigh the benefits, but few serious researchers argue that some benefits are not real.
For example:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767693
In this cohort study of 19 887 participants from the Health and Retirement Study, with a mean follow-up of 9.1 years, when compared with never drinking, low to moderate drinking was associated with significantly better trajectories of higher cognition scores for mental status, word recall, and vocabulary and with lower rates of decline in each of these cognition domains.

The recent war on alcohol, driven largely by the cannabis industry, drove people to these judgy, uninformed stances on alcohol. It seems reality is slowly starting to sink back in. If I'm lucky enough to hit my late 70s, have grandchildren, and friends to spend time with, you bet I'm going to have fun. I may even have a cigarette with my drink here and there. I can never really understand why old people spend so much time and bandwidth worrying about "long-term" health effects of things. Like, you don't have a long-term, just enjoy the time you have left. And to the judgy millenials--tell them to seek therapy and move on.

Enjoy your stroke.

Boomer will just blame it on her kids for not drinking enough with her.

DP, and not a boomer, but good god. You two are super obnoxious and incapable of reading. I too hope that if one day I reach 70 and 80 to be able to relax and not obsess over long term effects of anything. Are you really under the impression that you're going to live 50 more years?

If I reach 80, I sincerely hope I have something better to do than get plastered on Cabo Wabo. Like, spend time w/my grandchildren.

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Anonymous wrote:You’re judging people just trying to have fun on their vacation? Maybe spend the evening self-reflecting and tomorrow you can join them. Be sure to leave the stick in the bedroom.

You can’t have fun without drinking alcohol? Alcohol is required for fun? Hmmm. -NP

Alcohol has been associated with fun in most cultures for thousands of years. Don’t act like it is weird.

But now we know so much more about its negative side… like how it causes cancer!

Cave men beat their children and married their sisters, and lived to be 31 - “been doing it for thousands of years” isn’t much of an argument.

There is also strong evidence for its health benefits and its social benefits. People who drink in moderation tend to be significantly healthier and happier than non-drinkers.

There was never any “strong” evidence. There was a series of studies funded by the alcohol industry that suggested it could be healthy for your heart or whatever… those studies have mostly been debunked. Before Trump came in, the govt was moving towards warning labels like cigarettes have: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/03/health/alcohol-surgeon-general-warning.html

I know it’s fun and a lot of people are addicted but it’s getting harder and harder to pretend any of this is a good idea.

Wrong. There are clear health and social benefits. There are also damages to health from alcohol. In recent years many researchers have decided that the negative consequences outweigh the benefits, but few serious researchers argue that some benefits are not real.
For example:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767693
In this cohort study of 19 887 participants from the Health and Retirement Study, with a mean follow-up of 9.1 years, when compared with never drinking, low to moderate drinking was associated with significantly better trajectories of higher cognition scores for mental status, word recall, and vocabulary and with lower rates of decline in each of these cognition domains.

The recent war on alcohol, driven largely by the cannabis industry, drove people to these judgy, uninformed stances on alcohol. It seems reality is slowly starting to sink back in. If I'm lucky enough to hit my late 70s, have grandchildren, and friends to spend time with, you bet I'm going to have fun. I may even have a cigarette with my drink here and there. I can never really understand why old people spend so much time and bandwidth worrying about "long-term" health effects of things. Like, you don't have a long-term, just enjoy the time you have left. And to the judgy millenials--tell them to seek therapy and move on.

Enjoy your stroke.

Boomer will just blame it on her kids for not drinking enough with her.

DP, and not a boomer, but good god. You two are super obnoxious and incapable of reading. I too hope that if one day I reach 70 and 80 to be able to relax and not obsess over long term effects of anything. Are you really under the impression that you're going to live 50 more years?

If I reach 80, I sincerely hope I have something better to do than get plastered on Cabo Wabo. Like, spend time w/my grandchildren.

Presumably, one can enjoy a drink AND spend time with grandchildren.

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Anonymous wrote:As long as they aren't ugly drunks, observing your parents get inebriated with their friends and tell stories can be entertaining.

lol sure.

Too bad you just have ugly drinkers in your family. Don't know what you're missing!

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Anonymous wrote:You’re judging people just trying to have fun on their vacation? Maybe spend the evening self-reflecting and tomorrow you can join them. Be sure to leave the stick in the bedroom.

You can’t have fun without drinking alcohol? Alcohol is required for fun? Hmmm. -NP

Alcohol has been associated with fun in most cultures for thousands of years. Don’t act like it is weird.

But now we know so much more about its negative side… like how it causes cancer!

Cave men beat their children and married their sisters, and lived to be 31 - “been doing it for thousands of years” isn’t much of an argument.

There is also strong evidence for its health benefits and its social benefits. People who drink in moderation tend to be significantly healthier and happier than non-drinkers.

There was never any “strong” evidence. There was a series of studies funded by the alcohol industry that suggested it could be healthy for your heart or whatever… those studies have mostly been debunked. Before Trump came in, the govt was moving towards warning labels like cigarettes have: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/03/health/alcohol-surgeon-general-warning.html

I know it’s fun and a lot of people are addicted but it’s getting harder and harder to pretend any of this is a good idea.

Wrong. There are clear health and social benefits. There are also damages to health from alcohol. In recent years many researchers have decided that the negative consequences outweigh the benefits, but few serious researchers argue that some benefits are not real.
For example:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767693
In this cohort study of 19 887 participants from the Health and Retirement Study, with a mean follow-up of 9.1 years, when compared with never drinking, low to moderate drinking was associated with significantly better trajectories of higher cognition scores for mental status, word recall, and vocabulary and with lower rates of decline in each of these cognition domains.

The recent war on alcohol, driven largely by the cannabis industry, drove people to these judgy, uninformed stances on alcohol. It seems reality is slowly starting to sink back in. If I'm lucky enough to hit my late 70s, have grandchildren, and friends to spend time with, you bet I'm going to have fun. I may even have a cigarette with my drink here and there. I can never really understand why old people spend so much time and bandwidth worrying about "long-term" health effects of things. Like, you don't have a long-term, just enjoy the time you have left. And to the judgy millenials--tell them to seek therapy and move on.

Enjoy your stroke.

Boomer will just blame it on her kids for not drinking enough with her.

DP, and not a boomer, but good god. You two are super obnoxious and incapable of reading. I too hope that if one day I reach 70 and 80 to be able to relax and not obsess over long term effects of anything. Are you really under the impression that you're going to live 50 more years?

If I reach 80, I sincerely hope I have something better to do than get plastered on Cabo Wabo. Like, spend time w/my grandchildren.

Presumably, one can enjoy a drink AND spend time with grandchildren.

It's not the "one drink" seniors that are the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:You’re judging people just trying to have fun on their vacation? Maybe spend the evening self-reflecting and tomorrow you can join them. Be sure to leave the stick in the bedroom.

Who's judging? Oh yeah - it's not OP, it's you! You don't know if OP is baffled, or amused, or wishes she could drink that much without wrecking her sleep, or maybe she's just wondering if she'll be like that when she's that age...

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Anonymous wrote:You’re judging people just trying to have fun on their vacation? Maybe spend the evening self-reflecting and tomorrow you can join them. Be sure to leave the stick in the bedroom.

You can’t have fun without drinking alcohol? Alcohol is required for fun? Hmmm. -NP

Alcohol has been associated with fun in most cultures for thousands of years. Don’t act like it is weird.

But now we know so much more about its negative side… like how it causes cancer!

Cave men beat their children and married their sisters, and lived to be 31 - “been doing it for thousands of years” isn’t much of an argument.

There is also strong evidence for its health benefits and its social benefits. People who drink in moderation tend to be significantly healthier and happier than non-drinkers.

There was never any “strong” evidence. There was a series of studies funded by the alcohol industry that suggested it could be healthy for your heart or whatever… those studies have mostly been debunked. Before Trump came in, the govt was moving towards warning labels like cigarettes have: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/03/health/alcohol-surgeon-general-warning.html

I know it’s fun and a lot of people are addicted but it’s getting harder and harder to pretend any of this is a good idea.

Wrong. There are clear health and social benefits. There are also damages to health from alcohol. In recent years many researchers have decided that the negative consequences outweigh the benefits, but few serious researchers argue that some benefits are not real.
For example:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767693
In this cohort study of 19 887 participants from the Health and Retirement Study, with a mean follow-up of 9.1 years, when compared with never drinking, low to moderate drinking was associated with significantly better trajectories of higher cognition scores for mental status, word recall, and vocabulary and with lower rates of decline in each of these cognition domains.

The recent war on alcohol, driven largely by the cannabis industry, drove people to these judgy, uninformed stances on alcohol. It seems reality is slowly starting to sink back in. If I'm lucky enough to hit my late 70s, have grandchildren, and friends to spend time with, you bet I'm going to have fun. I may even have a cigarette with my drink here and there. I can never really understand why old people spend so much time and bandwidth worrying about "long-term" health effects of things. Like, you don't have a long-term, just enjoy the time you have left. And to the judgy millenials--tell them to seek therapy and move on.

Enjoy your stroke.

Boomer will just blame it on her kids for not drinking enough with her.

DP, and not a boomer, but good god. You two are super obnoxious and incapable of reading. I too hope that if one day I reach 70 and 80 to be able to relax and not obsess over long term effects of anything. Are you really under the impression that you're going to live 50 more years?

If I reach 80, I sincerely hope I have something better to do than get plastered on Cabo Wabo. Like, spend time w/my grandchildren.

Presumably, one can enjoy a drink AND spend time with grandchildren.

It's not the "one drink" seniors that are the problem.

A lot of people are telling on themselves and their own anxieties in this thread which is titled "Anyone else's parents/in-laws drink like fish?"

"LEAVE THEM ALONE, THEY'RE JUST HAVING ONE DRINK, IT'S FINE. YOU AND YOUR BROTHER WERE ALWAYS INGRATEFUL PRICKS!"

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Anonymous wrote:You’re judging people just trying to have fun on their vacation? Maybe spend the evening self-reflecting and tomorrow you can join them. Be sure to leave the stick in the bedroom.

You can’t have fun without drinking alcohol? Alcohol is required for fun? Hmmm. -NP

Alcohol has been associated with fun in most cultures for thousands of years. Don’t act like it is weird.

But now we know so much more about its negative side… like how it causes cancer!

Cave men beat their children and married their sisters, and lived to be 31 - “been doing it for thousands of years” isn’t much of an argument.

There is also strong evidence for its health benefits and its social benefits. People who drink in moderation tend to be significantly healthier and happier than non-drinkers.

There was never any “strong” evidence. There was a series of studies funded by the alcohol industry that suggested it could be healthy for your heart or whatever… those studies have mostly been debunked. Before Trump came in, the govt was moving towards warning labels like cigarettes have: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/03/health/alcohol-surgeon-general-warning.html

I know it’s fun and a lot of people are addicted but it’s getting harder and harder to pretend any of this is a good idea.

Wrong. There are clear health and social benefits. There are also damages to health from alcohol. In recent years many researchers have decided that the negative consequences outweigh the benefits, but few serious researchers argue that some benefits are not real.
For example:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767693
In this cohort study of 19 887 participants from the Health and Retirement Study, with a mean follow-up of 9.1 years, when compared with never drinking, low to moderate drinking was associated with significantly better trajectories of higher cognition scores for mental status, word recall, and vocabulary and with lower rates of decline in each of these cognition domains.

The recent war on alcohol, driven largely by the cannabis industry, drove people to these judgy, uninformed stances on alcohol. It seems reality is slowly starting to sink back in. If I'm lucky enough to hit my late 70s, have grandchildren, and friends to spend time with, you bet I'm going to have fun. I may even have a cigarette with my drink here and there. I can never really understand why old people spend so much time and bandwidth worrying about "long-term" health effects of things. Like, you don't have a long-term, just enjoy the time you have left. And to the judgy millenials--tell them to seek therapy and move on.

Enjoy your stroke.

Boomer will just blame it on her kids for not drinking enough with her.

DP, and not a boomer, but good god. You two are super obnoxious and incapable of reading. I too hope that if one day I reach 70 and 80 to be able to relax and not obsess over long term effects of anything. Are you really under the impression that you're going to live 50 more years?

If I reach 80, I sincerely hope I have something better to do than get plastered on Cabo Wabo. Like, spend time w/my grandchildren.

Presumably, one can enjoy a drink AND spend time with grandchildren.

Not if you're doing shots with your leathery neighbors while your adult children cringe and check their watches trying to figure out how long the drive home will be if they can leave now.

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Anonymous wrote:You’re judging people just trying to have fun on their vacation? Maybe spend the evening self-reflecting and tomorrow you can join them. Be sure to leave the stick in the bedroom.

You can’t have fun without drinking alcohol? Alcohol is required for fun? Hmmm. -NP

Alcohol has been associated with fun in most cultures for thousands of years. Don’t act like it is weird.

But now we know so much more about its negative side… like how it causes cancer!

Cave men beat their children and married their sisters, and lived to be 31 - “been doing it for thousands of years” isn’t much of an argument.

There is also strong evidence for its health benefits and its social benefits. People who drink in moderation tend to be significantly healthier and happier than non-drinkers.

There was never any “strong” evidence. There was a series of studies funded by the alcohol industry that suggested it could be healthy for your heart or whatever… those studies have mostly been debunked. Before Trump came in, the govt was moving towards warning labels like cigarettes have: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/03/health/alcohol-surgeon-general-warning.html

I know it’s fun and a lot of people are addicted but it’s getting harder and harder to pretend any of this is a good idea.

Wrong. There are clear health and social benefits. There are also damages to health from alcohol. In recent years many researchers have decided that the negative consequences outweigh the benefits, but few serious researchers argue that some benefits are not real.
For example:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767693
In this cohort study of 19 887 participants from the Health and Retirement Study, with a mean follow-up of 9.1 years, when compared with never drinking, low to moderate drinking was associated with significantly better trajectories of higher cognition scores for mental status, word recall, and vocabulary and with lower rates of decline in each of these cognition domains.

The recent war on alcohol, driven largely by the cannabis industry, drove people to these judgy, uninformed stances on alcohol. It seems reality is slowly starting to sink back in. If I'm lucky enough to hit my late 70s, have grandchildren, and friends to spend time with, you bet I'm going to have fun. I may even have a cigarette with my drink here and there. I can never really understand why old people spend so much time and bandwidth worrying about "long-term" health effects of things. Like, you don't have a long-term, just enjoy the time you have left. And to the judgy millenials--tell them to seek therapy and move on.

Enjoy your stroke.

Boomer will just blame it on her kids for not drinking enough with her.

DP, and not a boomer, but good god. You two are super obnoxious and incapable of reading. I too hope that if one day I reach 70 and 80 to be able to relax and not obsess over long term effects of anything. Are you really under the impression that you're going to live 50 more years?

If I reach 80, I sincerely hope I have something better to do than get plastered on Cabo Wabo. Like, spend time w/my grandchildren.

Presumably, one can enjoy a drink AND spend time with grandchildren.

Not if you're doing shots with your leathery neighbors while your adult children cringe and check their watches trying to figure out how long the drive home will be if they can leave now.

Sounds like your parents enjoy their neighbors a lot more than they like you.

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Anonymous wrote:You’re judging people just trying to have fun on their vacation? Maybe spend the evening self-reflecting and tomorrow you can join them. Be sure to leave the stick in the bedroom.

You can’t have fun without drinking alcohol? Alcohol is required for fun? Hmmm. -NP

Alcohol has been associated with fun in most cultures for thousands of years. Don’t act like it is weird.

But now we know so much more about its negative side… like how it causes cancer!

Cave men beat their children and married their sisters, and lived to be 31 - “been doing it for thousands of years” isn’t much of an argument.

There is also strong evidence for its health benefits and its social benefits. People who drink in moderation tend to be significantly healthier and happier than non-drinkers.

There was never any “strong” evidence. There was a series of studies funded by the alcohol industry that suggested it could be healthy for your heart or whatever… those studies have mostly been debunked. Before Trump came in, the govt was moving towards warning labels like cigarettes have: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/03/health/alcohol-surgeon-general-warning.html

I know it’s fun and a lot of people are addicted but it’s getting harder and harder to pretend any of this is a good idea.

Wrong. There are clear health and social benefits. There are also damages to health from alcohol. In recent years many researchers have decided that the negative consequences outweigh the benefits, but few serious researchers argue that some benefits are not real.
For example:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767693
In this cohort study of 19 887 participants from the Health and Retirement Study, with a mean follow-up of 9.1 years, when compared with never drinking, low to moderate drinking was associated with significantly better trajectories of higher cognition scores for mental status, word recall, and vocabulary and with lower rates of decline in each of these cognition domains.

The recent war on alcohol, driven largely by the cannabis industry, drove people to these judgy, uninformed stances on alcohol. It seems reality is slowly starting to sink back in. If I'm lucky enough to hit my late 70s, have grandchildren, and friends to spend time with, you bet I'm going to have fun. I may even have a cigarette with my drink here and there. I can never really understand why old people spend so much time and bandwidth worrying about "long-term" health effects of things. Like, you don't have a long-term, just enjoy the time you have left. And to the judgy millenials--tell them to seek therapy and move on.

Enjoy your stroke.

Boomer will just blame it on her kids for not drinking enough with her.

DP, and not a boomer, but good god. You two are super obnoxious and incapable of reading. I too hope that if one day I reach 70 and 80 to be able to relax and not obsess over long term effects of anything. Are you really under the impression that you're going to live 50 more years?

If I reach 80, I sincerely hope I have something better to do than get plastered on Cabo Wabo. Like, spend time w/my grandchildren.

Presumably, one can enjoy a drink AND spend time with grandchildren.

Not if you're doing shots with your leathery neighbors while your adult children cringe and check their watches trying to figure out how long the drive home will be if they can leave now.

Sounds like your parents enjoy their neighbors a lot more than they like you.

yes, that's the conclusion—yet they demand attention and attendance at their house on special occasions and holidays—and are very put-out when people don't want to participate. I think Cabo Wabo is revolting.

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Anonymous wrote:You’re judging people just trying to have fun on their vacation? Maybe spend the evening self-reflecting and tomorrow you can join them. Be sure to leave the stick in the bedroom.

You can’t have fun without drinking alcohol? Alcohol is required for fun? Hmmm. -NP

Alcohol has been associated with fun in most cultures for thousands of years. Don’t act like it is weird.

But now we know so much more about its negative side… like how it causes cancer!

Cave men beat their children and married their sisters, and lived to be 31 - “been doing it for thousands of years” isn’t much of an argument.

There is also strong evidence for its health benefits and its social benefits. People who drink in moderation tend to be significantly healthier and happier than non-drinkers.

There was never any “strong” evidence. There was a series of studies funded by the alcohol industry that suggested it could be healthy for your heart or whatever… those studies have mostly been debunked. Before Trump came in, the govt was moving towards warning labels like cigarettes have: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/03/health/alcohol-surgeon-general-warning.html

I know it’s fun and a lot of people are addicted but it’s getting harder and harder to pretend any of this is a good idea.

Wrong. There are clear health and social benefits. There are also damages to health from alcohol. In recent years many researchers have decided that the negative consequences outweigh the benefits, but few serious researchers argue that some benefits are not real.
For example:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767693
In this cohort study of 19 887 participants from the Health and Retirement Study, with a mean follow-up of 9.1 years, when compared with never drinking, low to moderate drinking was associated with significantly better trajectories of higher cognition scores for mental status, word recall, and vocabulary and with lower rates of decline in each of these cognition domains.

The recent war on alcohol, driven largely by the cannabis industry, drove people to these judgy, uninformed stances on alcohol. It seems reality is slowly starting to sink back in. If I'm lucky enough to hit my late 70s, have grandchildren, and friends to spend time with, you bet I'm going to have fun. I may even have a cigarette with my drink here and there. I can never really understand why old people spend so much time and bandwidth worrying about "long-term" health effects of things. Like, you don't have a long-term, just enjoy the time you have left. And to the judgy millenials--tell them to seek therapy and move on.

Enjoy your stroke.

Boomer will just blame it on her kids for not drinking enough with her.

DP, and not a boomer, but good god. You two are super obnoxious and incapable of reading. I too hope that if one day I reach 70 and 80 to be able to relax and not obsess over long term effects of anything. Are you really under the impression that you're going to live 50 more years?

If I reach 80, I sincerely hope I have something better to do than get plastered on Cabo Wabo. Like, spend time w/my grandchildren.

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Anonymous wrote:You’re judging people just trying to have fun on their vacation? Maybe spend the evening self-reflecting and tomorrow you can join them. Be sure to leave the stick in the bedroom.

You can’t have fun without drinking alcohol? Alcohol is required for fun? Hmmm. -NP

Alcohol has been associated with fun in most cultures for thousands of years. Don’t act like it is weird.

But now we know so much more about its negative side… like how it causes cancer!

Cave men beat their children and married their sisters, and lived to be 31 - “been doing it for thousands of years” isn’t much of an argument.

There is also strong evidence for its health benefits and its social benefits. People who drink in moderation tend to be significantly healthier and happier than non-drinkers.

There was never any “strong” evidence. There was a series of studies funded by the alcohol industry that suggested it could be healthy for your heart or whatever… those studies have mostly been debunked. Before Trump came in, the govt was moving towards warning labels like cigarettes have: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/03/health/alcohol-surgeon-general-warning.html

I know it’s fun and a lot of people are addicted but it’s getting harder and harder to pretend any of this is a good idea.

Wrong. There are clear health and social benefits. There are also damages to health from alcohol. In recent years many researchers have decided that the negative consequences outweigh the benefits, but few serious researchers argue that some benefits are not real.
For example:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767693
In this cohort study of 19 887 participants from the Health and Retirement Study, with a mean follow-up of 9.1 years, when compared with never drinking, low to moderate drinking was associated with significantly better trajectories of higher cognition scores for mental status, word recall, and vocabulary and with lower rates of decline in each of these cognition domains.

The recent war on alcohol, driven largely by the cannabis industry, drove people to these judgy, uninformed stances on alcohol. It seems reality is slowly starting to sink back in. If I'm lucky enough to hit my late 70s, have grandchildren, and friends to spend time with, you bet I'm going to have fun. I may even have a cigarette with my drink here and there. I can never really understand why old people spend so much time and bandwidth worrying about "long-term" health effects of things. Like, you don't have a long-term, just enjoy the time you have left. And to the judgy millenials--tell them to seek therapy and move on.

Enjoy your stroke.

Boomer will just blame it on her kids for not drinking enough with her.

DP, and not a boomer, but good god. You two are super obnoxious and incapable of reading. I too hope that if one day I reach 70 and 80 to be able to relax and not obsess over long term effects of anything. Are you really under the impression that you're going to live 50 more years?

If I reach 80, I sincerely hope I have something better to do than get plastered on Cabo Wabo. Like, spend time w/my grandchildren.

Presumably, one can enjoy a drink AND spend time with grandchildren.

It's not the "one drink" seniors that are the problem.

So don’t drink at all. But there is nothing wrong with enjoying drinks when you’re 80.

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Anonymous wrote:You’re judging people just trying to have fun on their vacation? Maybe spend the evening self-reflecting and tomorrow you can join them. Be sure to leave the stick in the bedroom.

You can’t have fun without drinking alcohol? Alcohol is required for fun? Hmmm. -NP

Alcohol has been associated with fun in most cultures for thousands of years. Don’t act like it is weird.

But now we know so much more about its negative side… like how it causes cancer!

Cave men beat their children and married their sisters, and lived to be 31 - “been doing it for thousands of years” isn’t much of an argument.

There is also strong evidence for its health benefits and its social benefits. People who drink in moderation tend to be significantly healthier and happier than non-drinkers.

There was never any “strong” evidence. There was a series of studies funded by the alcohol industry that suggested it could be healthy for your heart or whatever… those studies have mostly been debunked. Before Trump came in, the govt was moving towards warning labels like cigarettes have: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/03/health/alcohol-surgeon-general-warning.html

I know it’s fun and a lot of people are addicted but it’s getting harder and harder to pretend any of this is a good idea.

Wrong. There are clear health and social benefits. There are also damages to health from alcohol. In recent years many researchers have decided that the negative consequences outweigh the benefits, but few serious researchers argue that some benefits are not real.
For example:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767693
In this cohort study of 19 887 participants from the Health and Retirement Study, with a mean follow-up of 9.1 years, when compared with never drinking, low to moderate drinking was associated with significantly better trajectories of higher cognition scores for mental status, word recall, and vocabulary and with lower rates of decline in each of these cognition domains.

The recent war on alcohol, driven largely by the cannabis industry, drove people to these judgy, uninformed stances on alcohol. It seems reality is slowly starting to sink back in. If I'm lucky enough to hit my late 70s, have grandchildren, and friends to spend time with, you bet I'm going to have fun. I may even have a cigarette with my drink here and there. I can never really understand why old people spend so much time and bandwidth worrying about "long-term" health effects of things. Like, you don't have a long-term, just enjoy the time you have left. And to the judgy millenials--tell them to seek therapy and move on.

Enjoy your stroke.

Boomer will just blame it on her kids for not drinking enough with her.

DP, and not a boomer, but good god. You two are super obnoxious and incapable of reading. I too hope that if one day I reach 70 and 80 to be able to relax and not obsess over long term effects of anything. Are you really under the impression that you're going to live 50 more years?

If I reach 80, I sincerely hope I have something better to do than get plastered on Cabo Wabo. Like, spend time w/my grandchildren.

Presumably, one can enjoy a drink AND spend time with grandchildren.

Not if you're doing shots with your leathery neighbors while your adult children cringe and check their watches trying to figure out how long the drive home will be if they can leave now.

Take your judgmental ass home and don’t worry about them. They are having a great time and don’t need a wet blanket like you to tell them they are doing life wrong.