Would you support mandatory genetic testing for paternity?

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Anonymous wrote:What!?!? This is one of the stupidest ideas I have ever read here and that's saying alot. I'm with the PPs who said let's get through the rape kit backlog.

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Anonymous wrote:Bad idea and total overreach.

+1 terrible idea. I have two very close friends who both have children fathered by AP’s instead of their H’s. This would wreck probably 10-20% of marriages.


HORRIBLE IDEA.

+1 mandating sending a vulnerable woman who has just given birth and her newborn home with her husband and that new knowledge is like an engraved invitation to domestic violence.

The number of likely lab errors testing every newborn will probably result in dead babies and women.

Correct lab results will also occasionally lead to the same, but you’re right, it would be especially tragic if people were murdered based on false information.

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Anonymous wrote:Bad idea and total overreach.

+1 terrible idea. I have two very close friends who both have children fathered by AP’s instead of their H’s. This would wreck probably 10-20% of marriages.


HORRIBLE IDEA.

+1 mandating sending a vulnerable woman who has just given birth and her newborn home with her husband and that new knowledge is like an engraved invitation to domestic violence.

How about the man who thinks the child is his and was cheated on and lied to? That doesn't necesssarily equate to DV, but a man would probably choose to leave the wife/woman and that is reasonable. He shouldn't have to support a child that isn't his and live in a sham marriage.

Why is it ok when women cheat and not men? Why is it ok for women to lie to men about if they are the father or not?

Let me guess, you had an affair and your husband is not the father.

I genuinely do not understand this perspective. You wanted to have a kid with your spouse. Now you have a kid. When you raise that kid, you are the kid's dad.
If the hospital sends me home with the wrong baby and I raise it ... that's still my kid, who I love.

The world is full of men raising kids who aren't biologically theirs - through adoption, sperm donor, blended family, rape of their wife, reconciliation after cheating, raising a relative's kid - and they are fine.

And no, I've never cheated. I just don't understand how somebody could leave their spouse and infant if that is the family situation they wanted. I would consider somebody like that very damaged.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bad idea and total overreach.

+1 terrible idea. I have two very close friends who both have children fathered by AP’s instead of their H’s. This would wreck probably 10-20% of marriages.


HORRIBLE IDEA.

This is exactly why it should be mandated.

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Anonymous wrote:Bad idea and total overreach.

+1 terrible idea. I have two very close friends who both have children fathered by AP’s instead of their H’s. This would wreck probably 10-20% of marriages.


HORRIBLE IDEA.

+1 mandating sending a vulnerable woman who has just given birth and her newborn home with her husband and that new knowledge is like an engraved invitation to domestic violence.

How about the man who thinks the child is his and was cheated on and lied to? That doesn't necesssarily equate to DV, but a man would probably choose to leave the wife/woman and that is reasonable. He shouldn't have to support a child that isn't his and live in a sham marriage.

Why is it ok when women cheat and not men? Why is it ok for women to lie to men about if they are the father or not?

Let me guess, you had an affair and your husband is not the father.

I genuinely do not understand this perspective. You wanted to have a kid with your spouse. Now you have a kid. When you raise that kid, you are the kid's dad.
If the hospital sends me home with the wrong baby and I raise it ... that's still my kid, who I love.

The world is full of men raising kids who aren't biologically theirs - through adoption, sperm donor, blended family, rape of their wife, reconciliation after cheating, raising a relative's kid - and they are fine.

And no, I've never cheated. I just don't understand how somebody could leave their spouse and infant if that is the family situation they wanted. I would consider somebody like that very damaged.

Right. Just like when someone catches their spouse sleeping with someone else. What does it matter? You wanted to be married, and you're still married. Getting a divorce just puts you further away from what you wanted.

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Anonymous wrote:Bad idea and total overreach.

+1 terrible idea. I have two very close friends who both have children fathered by AP’s instead of their H’s. This would wreck probably 10-20% of marriages.


HORRIBLE IDEA.

+1 mandating sending a vulnerable woman who has just given birth and her newborn home with her husband and that new knowledge is like an engraved invitation to domestic violence.

How about the man who thinks the child is his and was cheated on and lied to? That doesn't necesssarily equate to DV, but a man would probably choose to leave the wife/woman and that is reasonable. He shouldn't have to support a child that isn't his and live in a sham marriage.

Why is it ok when women cheat and not men? Why is it ok for women to lie to men about if they are the father or not?

Let me guess, you had an affair and your husband is not the father.

I genuinely do not understand this perspective. You wanted to have a kid with your spouse. Now you have a kid. When you raise that kid, you are the kid's dad.
If the hospital sends me home with the wrong baby and I raise it ... that's still my kid, who I love.

The world is full of men raising kids who aren't biologically theirs - through adoption, sperm donor, blended family, rape of their wife, reconciliation after cheating, raising a relative's kid - and they are fine.

And no, I've never cheated. I just don't understand how somebody could leave their spouse and infant if that is the family situation they wanted. I would consider somebody like that very damaged.

Makes sense. This is why in those rare baby mix ups at the hospital, the women who later find out they were raising another woman’s kid are always super chill and don’t care at all and it’s never an issue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bad idea and total overreach.

+1 terrible idea. I have two very close friends who both have children fathered by AP’s instead of their H’s. This would wreck probably 10-20% of marriages.


HORRIBLE IDEA.

This is exactly why it should be mandated.

Again, on an individual level, there are people who would benefit from such a policy, but society as a whole benefits from order and stability and as many children as possible being raised by two parents. The government has no motivation whatsoever to mandate automatic paternity testing and take on the expense, the bureaucracy, and then deal with more children on the public dole because no paternity has been established for them. There’s nothing stopping men from from having their (presumed) children’s DNA tested. It’s just not going to be mandated.

I’m surprised anyone would be okay with the government or their health insurance company having automatic access to their DNA profile or their child’s. Who knows how they might use it in the future?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bad idea and total overreach.

+1 terrible idea. I have two very close friends who both have children fathered by AP’s instead of their H’s. This would wreck probably 10-20% of marriages.


HORRIBLE IDEA.

+1 mandating sending a vulnerable woman who has just given birth and her newborn home with her husband and that new knowledge is like an engraved invitation to domestic violence.

How about the man who thinks the child is his and was cheated on and lied to? That doesn't necesssarily equate to DV, but a man would probably choose to leave the wife/woman and that is reasonable. He shouldn't have to support a child that isn't his and live in a sham marriage.

Why is it ok when women cheat and not men? Why is it ok for women to lie to men about if they are the father or not?

Let me guess, you had an affair and your husband is not the father.

I genuinely do not understand this perspective. You wanted to have a kid with your spouse. Now you have a kid. When you raise that kid, you are the kid's dad.
If the hospital sends me home with the wrong baby and I raise it ... that's still my kid, who I love.

The world is full of men raising kids who aren't biologically theirs - through adoption, sperm donor, blended family, rape of their wife, reconciliation after cheating, raising a relative's kid - and they are fine.

And no, I've never cheated. I just don't understand how somebody could leave their spouse and infant if that is the family situation they wanted. I would consider somebody like that very damaged.

Makes sense. This is why in those rare baby mix ups at the hospital, the women who later find out they were raising another woman’s kid are always super chill and don’t care at all and it’s never an issue.

That's just it - in these situations, the parents don't return the swapped kids. They might sue - everybody likes a cash settlement - but they don't give up the kids they raised. Those are their kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bad idea and total overreach.

+1 terrible idea. I have two very close friends who both have children fathered by AP’s instead of their H’s. This would wreck probably 10-20% of marriages.


HORRIBLE IDEA.

+1 mandating sending a vulnerable woman who has just given birth and her newborn home with her husband and that new knowledge is like an engraved invitation to domestic violence.

How about the man who thinks the child is his and was cheated on and lied to? That doesn't necesssarily equate to DV, but a man would probably choose to leave the wife/woman and that is reasonable. He shouldn't have to support a child that isn't his and live in a sham marriage.

Why is it ok when women cheat and not men? Why is it ok for women to lie to men about if they are the father or not?

Let me guess, you had an affair and your husband is not the father.

I genuinely do not understand this perspective. You wanted to have a kid with your spouse. Now you have a kid. When you raise that kid, you are the kid's dad.
If the hospital sends me home with the wrong baby and I raise it ... that's still my kid, who I love.

The world is full of men raising kids who aren't biologically theirs - through adoption, sperm donor, blended family, rape of their wife, reconciliation after cheating, raising a relative's kid - and they are fine.

And no, I've never cheated. I just don't understand how somebody could leave their spouse and infant if that is the family situation they wanted. I would consider somebody like that very damaged.

Makes sense. This is why in those rare baby mix ups at the hospital, the women who later find out they were raising another woman’s kid are always super chill and don’t care at all and it’s never an issue.

That's just it - in these situations, the parents don't return the swapped kids. They might sue - everybody likes a cash settlement - but they don't give up the kids they raised. Those are their kids.

Are you oblivious to the part where someone is a father and potentially never finds out they have a kid?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bad idea and total overreach.

+1 terrible idea. I have two very close friends who both have children fathered by AP’s instead of their H’s. This would wreck probably 10-20% of marriages.


HORRIBLE IDEA.

+1 mandating sending a vulnerable woman who has just given birth and her newborn home with her husband and that new knowledge is like an engraved invitation to domestic violence.

How about the man who thinks the child is his and was cheated on and lied to? That doesn't necesssarily equate to DV, but a man would probably choose to leave the wife/woman and that is reasonable. He shouldn't have to support a child that isn't his and live in a sham marriage.

Why is it ok when women cheat and not men? Why is it ok for women to lie to men about if they are the father or not?

Let me guess, you had an affair and your husband is not the father.

I genuinely do not understand this perspective. You wanted to have a kid with your spouse. Now you have a kid. When you raise that kid, you are the kid's dad.
If the hospital sends me home with the wrong baby and I raise it ... that's still my kid, who I love.

The world is full of men raising kids who aren't biologically theirs - through adoption, sperm donor, blended family, rape of their wife, reconciliation after cheating, raising a relative's kid - and they are fine.

And no, I've never cheated. I just don't understand how somebody could leave their spouse and infant if that is the family situation they wanted. I would consider somebody like that very damaged.

Makes sense. This is why in those rare baby mix ups at the hospital, the women who later find out they were raising another woman’s kid are always super chill and don’t care at all and it’s never an issue.

That's just it - in these situations, the parents don't return the swapped kids. They might sue - everybody likes a cash settlement - but they don't give up the kids they raised. Those are their kids.

Sometimes they are forced to give up the kids. It would be a good idea to

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bad idea and total overreach.

+1 terrible idea. I have two very close friends who both have children fathered by AP’s instead of their H’s. This would wreck probably 10-20% of marriages.


HORRIBLE IDEA.

This is exactly why it should be mandated.

Again, on an individual level, there are people who would benefit from such a policy, but society as a whole benefits from order and stability and as many children as possible being raised by two parents. The government has no motivation whatsoever to mandate automatic paternity testing and take on the expense, the bureaucracy, and then deal with more children on the public dole because no paternity has been established for them. There’s nothing stopping men from from having their (presumed) children’s DNA tested. It’s just not going to be mandated.

I’m surprised anyone would be okay with the government or their health insurance company having automatic access to their DNA profile or their child’s. Who knows how they might use it in the future?

I’m ok with it. We did genetic testing on myself and my child for medical issues and no regrets. The results are not in my regular medical files. They are kept in another section as I had to have a doctor print it for me for the results. If you say no, what are you scared of, someone finding out of your affair and affair baby and giving up your cushy lifestyle?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bad idea and total overreach.

+1 terrible idea. I have two very close friends who both have children fathered by AP’s instead of their H’s. This would wreck probably 10-20% of marriages.


HORRIBLE IDEA.

+1 mandating sending a vulnerable woman who has just given birth and her newborn home with her husband and that new knowledge is like an engraved invitation to domestic violence.

How about the man who thinks the child is his and was cheated on and lied to? That doesn't necesssarily equate to DV, but a man would probably choose to leave the wife/woman and that is reasonable. He shouldn't have to support a child that isn't his and live in a sham marriage.

Why is it ok when women cheat and not men? Why is it ok for women to lie to men about if they are the father or not?

Let me guess, you had an affair and your husband is not the father.

I genuinely do not understand this perspective. You wanted to have a kid with your spouse. Now you have a kid. When you raise that kid, you are the kid's dad.
If the hospital sends me home with the wrong baby and I raise it ... that's still my kid, who I love.

The world is full of men raising kids who aren't biologically theirs - through adoption, sperm donor, blended family, rape of their wife, reconciliation after cheating, raising a relative's kid - and they are fine.

And no, I've never cheated. I just don't understand how somebody could leave their spouse and infant if that is the family situation they wanted. I would consider somebody like that very damaged.

Makes sense. This is why in those rare baby mix ups at the hospital, the women who later find out they were raising another woman’s kid are always super chill and don’t care at all and it’s never an issue.

That's just it - in these situations, the parents don't return the swapped kids. They might sue - everybody likes a cash settlement - but they don't give up the kids they raised. Those are their kids.

Depends on the kids they end up with. I'd trade mine out in a heartbeat.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bad idea and total overreach.

+1 terrible idea. I have two very close friends who both have children fathered by AP’s instead of their H’s. This would wreck probably 10-20% of marriages.


HORRIBLE IDEA.

+1 mandating sending a vulnerable woman who has just given birth and her newborn home with her husband and that new knowledge is like an engraved invitation to domestic violence.

How about the man who thinks the child is his and was cheated on and lied to? That doesn't necesssarily equate to DV, but a man would probably choose to leave the wife/woman and that is reasonable. He shouldn't have to support a child that isn't his and live in a sham marriage.

Why is it ok when women cheat and not men? Why is it ok for women to lie to men about if they are the father or not?

Let me guess, you had an affair and your husband is not the father.

I genuinely do not understand this perspective. You wanted to have a kid with your spouse. Now you have a kid. When you raise that kid, you are the kid's dad.
If the hospital sends me home with the wrong baby and I raise it ... that's still my kid, who I love.

The world is full of men raising kids who aren't biologically theirs - through adoption, sperm donor, blended family, rape of their wife, reconciliation after cheating, raising a relative's kid - and they are fine.

And no, I've never cheated. I just don't understand how somebody could leave their spouse and infant if that is the family situation they wanted. I would consider somebody like that very damaged.

Adoption, sperm donor, blended families and rape are not what is being discussed. In adoption, there needs to be a legal father consenting and often there are lies with that.

How could someone who was cheated on and wife was carrying another’s mans child leave? Really? You think he should stay living a lie?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bad idea and total overreach.

+1 terrible idea. I have two very close friends who both have children fathered by AP’s instead of their H’s. This would wreck probably 10-20% of marriages.


HORRIBLE IDEA.

+1 mandating sending a vulnerable woman who has just given birth and her newborn home with her husband and that new knowledge is like an engraved invitation to domestic violence.

How about the man who thinks the child is his and was cheated on and lied to? That doesn't necesssarily equate to DV, but a man would probably choose to leave the wife/woman and that is reasonable. He shouldn't have to support a child that isn't his and live in a sham marriage.

Why is it ok when women cheat and not men? Why is it ok for women to lie to men about if they are the father or not?

Let me guess, you had an affair and your husband is not the father.

I genuinely do not understand this perspective. You wanted to have a kid with your spouse. Now you have a kid. When you raise that kid, you are the kid's dad.
If the hospital sends me home with the wrong baby and I raise it ... that's still my kid, who I love.

The world is full of men raising kids who aren't biologically theirs - through adoption, sperm donor, blended family, rape of their wife, reconciliation after cheating, raising a relative's kid - and they are fine.

And no, I've never cheated. I just don't understand how somebody could leave their spouse and infant if that is the family situation they wanted. I would consider somebody like that very damaged.

Makes sense. This is why in those rare baby mix ups at the hospital, the women who later find out they were raising another woman’s kid are always super chill and don’t care at all and it’s never an issue.

That's just it - in these situations, the parents don't return the swapped kids. They might sue - everybody likes a cash settlement - but they don't give up the kids they raised. Those are their kids.

Because women bond with and love the kids. Men not so much. Men leave their bio kids all the time. Only very f Ed up women do that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bad idea and total overreach.

+1 terrible idea. I have two very close friends who both have children fathered by AP’s instead of their H’s. This would wreck probably 10-20% of marriages.


HORRIBLE IDEA.

+1 mandating sending a vulnerable woman who has just given birth and her newborn home with her husband and that new knowledge is like an engraved invitation to domestic violence.

How about the man who thinks the child is his and was cheated on and lied to? That doesn't necesssarily equate to DV, but a man would probably choose to leave the wife/woman and that is reasonable. He shouldn't have to support a child that isn't his and live in a sham marriage.

Why is it ok when women cheat and not men? Why is it ok for women to lie to men about if they are the father or not?

Let me guess, you had an affair and your husband is not the father.

I genuinely do not understand this perspective. You wanted to have a kid with your spouse. Now you have a kid. When you raise that kid, you are the kid's dad.
If the hospital sends me home with the wrong baby and I raise it ... that's still my kid, who I love.

The world is full of men raising kids who aren't biologically theirs - through adoption, sperm donor, blended family, rape of their wife, reconciliation after cheating, raising a relative's kid - and they are fine.

And no, I've never cheated. I just don't understand how somebody could leave their spouse and infant if that is the family situation they wanted. I would consider somebody like that very damaged.

Makes sense. This is why in those rare baby mix ups at the hospital, the women who later find out they were raising another woman’s kid are always super chill and don’t care at all and it’s never an issue.

That's just it - in these situations, the parents don't return the swapped kids. They might sue - everybody likes a cash settlement - but they don't give up the kids they raised. Those are their kids.

Sometimes they are forced to give up the kids. It would be a good idea to

I do not know of any case like that.
Usually there are not custody battles at all. In the famous "Switched at Birth" case there was (one of the children died and the bereaved parents went looking for the other kid) but the non-bio dad won custody.