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Anonymous wrote:Why does everyone seem to think there would only be killing by MAGAs? I know plenty of Progressives who would be willing to do some killing. They’re not going to start the war, but once it’s started, they’re all-in.

These people are serious, too. They know Carlos hand to hand fighting disciplines and martial arts, they are experts with knives and edged weapons, they can improvise booby traps. They’d be able to take out MAGAs like they were squishing bugs.

Don't kid yourself. These "progressives" who love to use political issues as an excuse to mix it up with the police and throw Molotov cocktails could easily start a war. Democrats are putting the whole country at risk justifying such behavior.

progressives are usually kumbaya type people. The people who throw molotov cocktails are anarchists and use any excuse to be violent.

Yes, and Democrats have been giving them political and media cover for a long time because SO FAR, their violence is directed at the Democrats' enemies. Americans refuse to learn from the countless examples in history of how easy it is to lose control of violent groups.


Right, and who was it who stormed the capital and killed police officers?

That was MAGA. Which side's protesters caused violence and arson during the 2020 riots? That was the left. We could play this moronic game all day or you could get your partisan head out of your ass and realize that any large scale act of political violence can be the match that sets this whole country ablaze. Condemn all violence or live to see your luck run out.


Wrong go read the court cases on those riots it wasn’t liberals idiot

Jan 6th was even worse by the way moron.

Ok! You sit there and rank violence. If the other side is "even worse" then you win!
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Anonymous wrote:This thread is stupid.

Everyone should get a gun anyway because it is your right.


Get a gun for what exactly?


NRA said it's to defend ourselves against a tyrannical government.

Many Dems endorse this message.
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Anonymous wrote:Since Trump constantly talks or tweets about “radical left-wing lunatics” who “want to destroy this country,” he is practically putting a bullseye on Democrats. He also bad mouths Blue states constantly, further adding fuel to the fire. I mean, it’s not Rwanda yet, but he is constantly and actively stoking hatred for non-Maga in his followers in a way that exacerbates political tensions. Who knows what will happen with another 3 1/2 years of this. He never shuts up.

This kind of one-sided analysis is stupid. Tell the truth about the rhetoric and dog whistles on both sides. Your safety literally depends on it. Unless enough people on both sides reestablish the norm that no one gets to incite, justify, or commit violence for any reason, this country is toast. Take it from an immigrant.


There’s no both siding this one, I’m afraid. The literal volume of hateful, divisive speech that emanates from his mouth or his social media on a daily basis far outweighs anything on the other side.


Exhibit 1. Why not just say “I disagree with Governor Newsom” like a normal president? Why go right to calling him Governor Newscum?



I’m shocked the felon doesn’t have a nickname for Karen Bass. That’s a sure sign he has dementia, since she wasn’t around when he had full faculties.
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Eh, I don’t think it will come to that. Though if things look bad, I may get a couple of red hats. Have MAGA family, so know what to talk about to back up the hat.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Good grief. This thread is over the top.

Just an observation - it is NOT the MAGA types causing mayhem in LA or NY or Dallas.



It’s ICE. And the last time I checked, the identity of the people who set the car fires wasn’t known. Given that despite extreme provocation, the protests have been largely peaceful, I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that MAGA supporters were trying to light a powder keg.
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Anonymous wrote:Good grief. This thread is over the top.

Just an observation - it is NOT the MAGA types causing mayhem in LA or NY or Dallas.



It's ICE. And we have Stephen Miller screaming at ICE to meet quotas because MAGA voted in TACO again.


ICE is not burning cars and throwing rocks and bricks and looting businesses and throwing Molotov cocktails and destroying buildings.


That’s right. What they’re doing is much, much worse.
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ICE is executing the 'due process will not be followed with regard to immigration' policy of the White House.

So are people saying that those who are combating ICE agents should be bearing arms? Would that be correct? And the rogue, amateur weapons like bricks and Molotov cocktails are not in line with the 2A?
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Anonymous wrote:Good grief. This thread is over the top.

Just an observation - it is NOT the MAGA types causing mayhem in LA or NY or Dallas.
I’ll be posting a slap in your face exchange between a White House reporter and your Führer.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes, look at the J6 insurrectionists. That was very very tame in comparison, but it showed that dictator Trump would not stop any violence in his name. I truly think many MAGA want a Gilead.


Weren't there fewer than 1,000 protesters on J6? How many other protests turned violent that can be called "MAGA" happened? Am scratching head trying to think of them.

How many rioters are in LA right now? How many people rioted in the summer of George Floyd?

That alone tells you how paranoid most of you are about "MAGA" that you can't even see the fatal flaw in your beliefs.

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Anonymous wrote:ICE is executing the 'due process will not be followed with regard to immigration' policy of the White House.

So are people saying that those who are combating ICE agents should be bearing arms? Would that be correct? And the rogue, amateur weapons like bricks and Molotov cocktails are not in line with the 2A?


Does that fall under the definition of tyranny?

I’d say meeting peaceful protests with “very heavy force” during the military parade is tyrannical.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes, look at the J6 insurrectionists. That was very very tame in comparison, but it showed that dictator Trump would not stop any violence in his name. I truly think many MAGA want a Gilead.


Weren't there fewer than 1,000 protesters on J6? How many other protests turned violent that can be called "MAGA" happened? Am scratching head trying to think of them.

How many rioters are in LA right now? How many people rioted in the summer of George Floyd?

That alone tells you how paranoid most of you are about "MAGA" that you can't even see the fatal flaw in your beliefs.



Takes two seconds to fact check this. No, there weren’t only 1000 people at the capitol on January 6.

From Grok:

About 10,000–12,000 protesters were at or near the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021, with 800–2,500 entering the building.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes, look at the J6 insurrectionists. That was very very tame in comparison, but it showed that dictator Trump would not stop any violence in his name. I truly think many MAGA want a Gilead.


Weren't there fewer than 1,000 protesters on J6? How many other protests turned violent that can be called "MAGA" happened? Am scratching head trying to think of them.

How many rioters are in LA right now? How many people rioted in the summer of George Floyd?

That alone tells you how paranoid most of you are about "MAGA" that you can't even see the fatal flaw in your beliefs.



If you recall from 1/6 videos MAGA was ramming flag poles at police and beating officers with them. They were spraying hoses at officers. They were pushing and stomping the police. They ensnared one officer in a door, who looked like he was struggling to breathe. Why does it matter how many people were there? None of that behavior has happened to police in LA.

Has there been graffiti? Yes, in both LA and on 1/6. Has a car been on fire? Yes, in LA. Has there been a gallows? Yes, on 1/6.

Only 1/6 was a riot.
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from Grok
No police officers died on January 6, 2021, during the U.S. Capitol attack. However, several officers who responded to the event died in the days, weeks, or months following, with some deaths linked to the trauma of the attack. Here’s a breakdown based on available information:

Officer Brian Sicknick (U.S. Capitol Police): Sicknick was assaulted with pepper spray during the attack and collapsed later that night. He died on January 7, 2021, from two strokes, which the Washington, D.C., medical examiner ruled as "natural causes" due to acute brainstem and cerebellar infarcts caused by a blood clot. While initial reports suggested his death was directly due to injuries from the riot, the medical examiner found no evidence of injuries or an allergic reaction to the pepper spray, though his experience on January 6 was noted as a contributing factor.
Officer Howard Liebengood (U.S. Capitol Police): Died by suicide on January 9, 2021, three days after the attack. He worked multiple long shifts without sleep following the event, and his family attributes his death to the mental health toll of the attack.
Officer Jeffrey Smith (Metropolitan Police Department): Died by suicide on January 15, 2021, from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. He sustained a concussion during the attack, which was misdiagnosed, and his widow’s lawsuit claims the traumatic brain injury from the riot contributed to his death. A medical examiner hired by his widow ruled his death was linked to the events of January 6.
Officer Gunther Hashida (Metropolitan Police Department): Died by suicide on July 29, 2021. He was a responder to the Capitol attack, and his death is among those associated with the event’s aftermath, though authorities noted personal struggles beyond January 6 may have contributed.
Officer Kyle DeFreytag (Metropolitan Police Department): Died by suicide on July 10, 2021. Like Hashida, he responded to the Capitol attack, and his death is linked to the psychological impact of the event, though no direct causal connection was confirmed by authorities.
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Anonymous wrote:Why does everyone seem to think there would only be killing by MAGAs? I know plenty of Progressives who would be willing to do some killing. They’re not going to start the war, but once it’s started, they’re all-in.

These people are serious, too. They know Carlos hand to hand fighting disciplines and martial arts, they are experts with knives and edged weapons, they can improvise booby traps. They’d be able to take out MAGAs like they were squishing bugs.

I thought MAGA sees Progressive men as beta men. Do beta men own ar15s and use violence to deal with disagreements?


Please. MAGA are the most beta men alive. The coastal MAGA elite all are beholden to a financial backer telling them how to think and act. The elected southern gents are all fine with a dictator if it means their wife can stay home and their kid can celebrate Christmas in high school. The MAGA electorate talks tough and but their “don’t tread on me license plate” really means “don’t tread on me too lightly,” maybe because a large portion are secretly gay.

Real men do none of the above.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes, look at the J6 insurrectionists. That was very very tame in comparison, but it showed that dictator Trump would not stop any violence in his name. I truly think many MAGA want a Gilead.


Weren't there fewer than 1,000 protesters on J6? How many other protests turned violent that can be called "MAGA" happened? Am scratching head trying to think of them.

How many rioters are in LA right now? How many people rioted in the summer of George Floyd?

That alone tells you how paranoid most of you are about "MAGA" that you can't even see the fatal flaw in your beliefs.



Takes two seconds to fact check this. No, there weren’t only 1000 people at the capitol on January 6.

From Grok:

About 10,000–12,000 protesters were at or near the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021, with 800–2,500 entering the building.


Not only were there thousands of rioters that day, but the cost to fix the damage to the capitol annd address the consequences of that day are much higher than anything seen in LA.

- By April 2022, federal authorities updated the property damage estimate to $2.73 million, incorporating costs from the Architect of the Capitol, Capitol Police, House Chief Administrative Office, and Senate Sergeant at Arms.
- Broader Costs: The total cost, including security enhancements, National Guard deployment, and mental health counseling, was estimated at $30 million in February 2021, with potential for higher costs if security measures persisted. A 2023 Government Accountability Office report cited $2.7 billion, including damages, security, and and agency costs.
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