Second thoughts about Harvard?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is anyone getting cold feet?


I know one kid who got in and has a trumper parent. If DC is the same, they might want to rethink going to Harvard. If DC is okay with Harvard fighting back against this nonsense then go.


Why would you think a Trumper's kid wouldn't enjoy Harvard?

Seriously. Kids craft their own schedules, clubs, alumni connections, etc. They find people who are like themselves to hang with. I'm sure there are still plenty of DeSantis types to hang out with. And faculty do teach facts, even at "woke" places.

It's possible to go to college and not care if your professors have different views than you. Likewise, performative outdoor protests don't really actually prevent most people from enjoying college. The exception is if the protests result in people physically fighting or yelling racial slurs. But just making a messy campground in front of a library is no big deal for the enjoyment of the typical student.

Oldheads and MAGAs are always focusing on the wrong thing instead of what is really important. Think about your college years. How high would you rate "quiet and order in front of university buildings" as a priority.

Mature people just "go around" if they don't want to interact.

What people don't enjoy is becoming part of an ugly MAGA-inspired controversy that kneecaps the institutions they want to study at. That can be bipartisan.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am an alum and I have started giving to Harvard again.


From the perspective of an outside, unconnected person, this seems like a time when Harvard can actually show the leadership that its brand automatically connotes. I'm more used to hearing things about Harvard that are negatives. Like Larry Summers mouthing off about women.

I like to see institutions prove their value and not coast on wealth and history.

Every major institution in American life can be criticized for racism, sexism, political missteps, etc. But retrospectively, one can tell that there are moments in history where institutions truly lead.

I believe t5his is such a moment for Harvard.

I wouldn't care if it looks messy on the ground. Even if I were a student and had to live through the messiness.


Larry Summers was at MIT before Harvard and a bunch of us at MIT called very loudly for his removal for his women-are-lesser comments and he was removed!


PP. Good for you and thank you for holding powerful people accountable!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Harvard is large, urban and, perhaps, antagonistic toward religion. If you accept these characteristics, then you should not regret a choice to attend Harvard.


Harvard has a Divinity school, which you would know if you had ever set foot on its large, urban campus.


The real RWNJ know about the divinity school because that is the epicenter of much of the anti-semitism
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Harvard is more attractive now.


This.


+100

Gained huge respect for them standing up to this administration.

They will be judged to be on the correct side of history when this all falls out.


Trump may be the greater evil but Harvard deserves all the smoke it is getting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It is not a safe or tolerant environment for Jewish students.


It's actually gotten worse these last few years but it will hopefully blow over soon.

The narrative that the Jews control the world is getting pretty ripe at harvard as antisemites try to spin resistance to antisemitism as jewish conspiracy theory.
Like how dare they make such a fuss about physical and verbal violence against jews.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone actually enjoys going to Harvard undergrad these days. They go for the brand and the network.


How would you know? And religion doesn’t belong in education. The Northeast is not the Deep South.



Harvard College was initially founded in 1636 to train ministers for the Puritan clergy. It was established by the General Court of the Massachusetts Bay Colony to prevent an "illiterate ministry". While the Divinity School was formally established later in 1816, the college's founding purpose was rooted in preparing ministers for the religious needs of the colon


Ok?
Anonymous
It’s a no for me, dawg.

I will not abide by terrorists knocking on a library door. And I will certainly not abide by those terrorists having the audacity to assemble and exercise free speech to criticize genocidal policies and actions when the target of those criticisms is a foreign nation 5 - 6 thousand miles away!

Enough is enough with these documented actions meant to annihilate my child!

Loud noises and protesting genocide - the 21st century’s sticks & stones …
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone actually enjoys going to Harvard undergrad these days. They go for the brand and the network.


How would you know? And religion doesn’t belong in education. The Northeast is not the Deep South.


Tell that to a Professor of Theology.


There are classes on religion. That’s not what was meant.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone actually enjoys going to Harvard undergrad these days. They go for the brand and the network.


How would you know? And religion doesn’t belong in education. The Northeast is not the Deep South.



Harvard College was initially founded in 1636 to train ministers for the Puritan clergy. It was established by the General Court of the Massachusetts Bay Colony to prevent an "illiterate ministry". While the Divinity School was formally established later in 1816, the college's founding purpose was rooted in preparing ministers for the religious needs of the colon


Ok?

It seems that someone copied from here without attribution:

https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/establishment-harvard-college#:~:text=The%20establishment%20of%20Harvard%20College,hub%20in%20the%20New%20World.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is anyone getting cold feet?

So this thread is dedicated to the 50 families that might frequent DCUM and have a first year kid at Harvard?


This administration could come after any University obviously. Harva deserves a lot of respect for fighting back hard.


They deserve credit for being racists, plagiarists, ideologues? They couldn’t care less about what’s true or right.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is anyone getting cold feet?


I know one kid who got in and has a trumper parent. If DC is the same, they might want to rethink going to Harvard. If DC is okay with Harvard fighting back against this nonsense then go.


Why would you think a Trumper's kid wouldn't enjoy Harvard?

Seriously. Kids craft their own schedules, clubs, alumni connections, etc. They find people who are like themselves to hang with. I'm sure there are still plenty of DeSantis types to hang out with. And faculty do teach facts, even at "woke" places.

It's possible to go to college and not care if your professors have different views than you. Likewise, performative outdoor protests don't really actually prevent most people from enjoying college. The exception is if the protests result in people physically fighting or yelling racial slurs. But just making a messy campground in front of a library is no big deal for the enjoyment of the typical student.

Oldheads and MAGAs are always focusing on the wrong thing instead of what is really important. Think about your college years. How high would you rate "quiet and order in front of university buildings" as a priority.

Mature people just "go around" if they don't want to interact.

What people don't enjoy is becoming part of an ugly MAGA-inspired controversy that kneecaps the institutions they want to study at. That can be bipartisan.

Why would a trumper want to go to Harvard? Trump hates Harvard.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It’s a no for me, dawg.

I will not abide by terrorists knocking on a library door. And I will certainly not abide by those terrorists having the audacity to assemble and exercise free speech to criticize genocidal policies and actions when the target of those criticisms is a foreign nation 5 - 6 thousand miles away!

Enough is enough with these documented actions meant to annihilate my child!

Loud noises and protesting genocide - the 21st century’s sticks & stones …


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you had Stanford or MIT as an option, then you should have picked those schools instead. Harvard is going to face battles for four years. It won't be a pleasant place and professors are already jumping ship if they can.


+1

Harvard was falling behind Stanford and MIT before Trump.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m so proud of my alma mater.


So proud that your alma mater is so dedicated to discriminatory practices that they'd rather destroy scientific research that could save millions of lives rather than simply not discriminate based on race?

This is just the beginning. Last weeks Supreme Court decision eliminating the double standard for discrimination cases is going to have major ramifications for many universities. Now these cases can survive summary judgment, discovery is going to be ugly.


There is no discrimination based on race that is preventing the scientific research from happening. All this was accomplishing is moving scientific research, that was an economic engine for the US, to other countries. Good job maga.


+1 previous assertion was silly. Harvard is not ‘destroying’ anything. This is all Trump. It is he you need to thank for this mess.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Harvard is more attractive now.


Yup. Knowing that MAGA people won't go near it makes it much more appealing. Good riddance.
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