School board increases salaries for teachers with LARGER class sizes?

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Anonymous wrote:With the larger class sizes, there is a chance many secondary teachers will have greater than 150 students. There is a sliding scale for additional pay once you go over 150.

I think the class size issues is just for elementary since that’s where they absorbed openings and that’s the issues with AART and sped chairs.

In addition to the proposed cuts to AARTs and Sped leads at the elementary level, there was an additional adjustment in the staffing formula for all grades which will result in a net loss of around 270 positions, with an average of 1.5 per school. Whether those are absorbed somehow or actually result in job losses is yet to be seen.

Got it. There will definitely be destaffs again and moving around to fill in what’s left. I’m sure she will be thrilled to say we are fully staffed for real next time!

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Anonymous wrote:What’s worse is they increased salaries for non teachers by 5%. Central office highly paid staff get 5% more! But teacher positions are cut and school support like classroom monitors. Their priorities are so out of whack.

You know FCPS ranks 6th out of 8 for teacher pay among local jurisdictions, right? And like 1.1% of FCPS employees are central office-- whose work includes minor matters like making sure paychecks are issued, job applications are processed in a timely manner, the massive fleet of busses that rivals Greyhound in size is operational, that the accomplishments of kids and teachers are highlighted, documented and recognized, and IT is up and running at 200 different schools for 183k kids.

Tell your company they should 86 the finance team, their HR or IT department and see how it goes...

No private companies are handing out 5% raises to HR and other admin employees. Plus central office is also full of highly paid specialists, special program managers, chiefs, and more useless positions. Many of which are filled with failed principals. These people already make a lot of money and do not deserve a 5% raises.

Also, teacher pay isn’t 5 out of 8. It depends on the level of teacher and that ranking didn’t account for the total compensation package. Just salary. But I am fine giving teachers and others who work with students a 6% (or more raise). It’s the others (new school board staffers, for example) who don’t deserve a 5% raise. Certainly not at the expense of the school staff.

Yeah it's the teachers with MASTERS degrees who have teacher pay well below nearly all other jurisdictions. Does that clarification make you feel better? Also, I'm willing to bet your private sector company or federal/state agency has given you several consecutive years of healthy raises while teachers pay stagnated ... and now it's time to play catch up and this time, they have a union so for once, they can't be told to sit on their hands...

You are once again missing the point. I’m fine with teachers getting a 6% raise. What I don’t understand is why teachers support their jobs being made harder to give central office a 5% raise.

And my raise was 2% last year and will be less this year because the economy has been killed by Trump.

What does this have to do with the salary increases of others and class sizes in schools?

It was a response to the statement made by the PP I was a responding to - “Also, I'm willing to bet your private sector company or federal/state agency has given you several consecutive years of healthy raises while teachers pay stagnated.” That person thinks everyone has been swimming in raises but we have not.

Mine this year was 3% and that's by far the lowest it's been in the past 20 years, so yeah, most people in the private sector have been doing really well for ourselves. I'm happy to see teachers get a large raise that they deserve. This shouldn't be an us vs. them thing, you whining like this is just really selfish and bratty of you.

Once again, read the thread before you write. I also support teacher raises.

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t find the new pay scales?

They were just updated

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/fy26-teacher-195-day.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:Should read the room. The feds who survived are looking at 0% raise next year.

Teachers still need raises.

Never said they don't deserve it. Just saying 6% is a bit extravagant and tone deaf considering the current times.

Do you mean the current times where teachers are completely disrespected by parents AND many students? Those times?

What good is a 6% raise if your classes go from manageable 25 kids to out of control 35 kids and all the aides have been eliminated? Is it really worth it? How many aide positions could have been saved if it was more moderate like 3 or 4% raise?

Since when have class sizes been 25? My kids routinely had 30-35 kids in their classes from 3rd grade up.

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Anonymous wrote:Should read the room. The feds who survived are looking at 0% raise next year.

Teachers still need raises.

Never said they don't deserve it. Just saying 6% is a bit extravagant and tone deaf considering the current times.

Do you mean the current times where teachers are completely disrespected by parents AND many students? Those times?

What good is a 6% raise if your classes go from manageable 25 kids to out of control 35 kids and all the aides have been eliminated? Is it really worth it? How many aide positions could have been saved if it was more moderate like 3 or 4% raise?

Since when have class sizes been 25? My kids routinely had 30-35 kids in their classes from 3rd grade up.

My first year of teaching I had 180 kids in MS. I thought that as the norm….

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One year, teaching for DOD I had 34 first graders. No aide at all.

I taught a number of years in various places, never had fewer than 28--except for one year when I had 21. Then, in October, we had a teacher cut--and I went up to 28 after her students were divvied out.
Reached 30 many years.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s worse is they increased salaries for non teachers by 5%. Central office highly paid staff get 5% more! But teacher positions are cut and school support like classroom monitors. Their priorities are so out of whack.

You know FCPS ranks 6th out of 8 for teacher pay among local jurisdictions, right? And like 1.1% of FCPS employees are central office-- whose work includes minor matters like making sure paychecks are issued, job applications are processed in a timely manner, the massive fleet of busses that rivals Greyhound in size is operational, that the accomplishments of kids and teachers are highlighted, documented and recognized, and IT is up and running at 200 different schools for 183k kids.

Tell your company they should 86 the finance team, their HR or IT department and see how it goes...

Teacher pay rates are almost indistinguishable from each other across the NoVa area.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s worse is they increased salaries for non teachers by 5%. Central office highly paid staff get 5% more! But teacher positions are cut and school support like classroom monitors. Their priorities are so out of whack.

You know FCPS ranks 6th out of 8 for teacher pay among local jurisdictions, right? And like 1.1% of FCPS employees are central office-- whose work includes minor matters like making sure paychecks are issued, job applications are processed in a timely manner, the massive fleet of busses that rivals Greyhound in size is operational, that the accomplishments of kids and teachers are highlighted, documented and recognized, and IT is up and running at 200 different schools for 183k kids.

Tell your company they should 86 the finance team, their HR or IT department and see how it goes...

No private companies are handing out 5% raises to HR and other admin employees. Plus central office is also full of highly paid specialists, special program managers, chiefs, and more useless positions. Many of which are filled with failed principals. These people already make a lot of money and do not deserve a 5% raises.

Also, teacher pay isn’t 5 out of 8. It depends on the level of teacher and that ranking didn’t account for the total compensation package. Just salary. But I am fine giving teachers and others who work with students a 6% (or more raise). It’s the others (new school board staffers, for example) who don’t deserve a 5% raise. Certainly not at the expense of the school staff.

Honestly, you just come across as someone who is jealous of people working in the Central Office, you don't know anything about the workload these positions manage or anything at all about the capability of this group of employees. Just because a shrew like you is envious doesn't mean these people don't deserve any raise. Get a hobby or something.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s worse is they increased salaries for non teachers by 5%. Central office highly paid staff get 5% more! But teacher positions are cut and school support like classroom monitors. Their priorities are so out of whack.

You know FCPS ranks 6th out of 8 for teacher pay among local jurisdictions, right? And like 1.1% of FCPS employees are central office-- whose work includes minor matters like making sure paychecks are issued, job applications are processed in a timely manner, the massive fleet of busses that rivals Greyhound in size is operational, that the accomplishments of kids and teachers are highlighted, documented and recognized, and IT is up and running at 200 different schools for 183k kids.

Tell your company they should 86 the finance team, their HR or IT department and see how it goes...

No private companies are handing out 5% raises to HR and other admin employees. Plus central office is also full of highly paid specialists, special program managers, chiefs, and more useless positions. Many of which are filled with failed principals. These people already make a lot of money and do not deserve a 5% raises.

Also, teacher pay isn’t 5 out of 8. It depends on the level of teacher and that ranking didn’t account for the total compensation package. Just salary. But I am fine giving teachers and others who work with students a 6% (or more raise). It’s the others (new school board staffers, for example) who don’t deserve a 5% raise. Certainly not at the expense of the school staff.

Honestly, you just come across as someone who is jealous of people working in the Central Office, you don't know anything about the workload these positions manage or anything at all about the capability of this group of employees. Just because a shrew like you is envious doesn't mean these people don't deserve any raise. Get a hobby or something.

Honestly, you seem to be trying very hard to justify your useless central office position. I actually have firsthand knowledge about the workload of these positions and the capability of many of them.

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Let’s be real. Cut all STEM, cut all AAP not classroom teachers, cut all curriculum specialists. Let teachers cook, keep class size small.

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Axe all HR employees that don’t want to leave their house for work.

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Anonymous wrote:Should read the room. The feds who survived are looking at 0% raise next year.

Nobody cares. It’s not about you this time.

This forum is always telling teachers who complain to quit their jobs, parents can do that too if they are unhappy at their jobs.

Non-Fed/non-teacher here. I think they're extremely related. The people struggling without jobs or not getting their own raises while everything increases in cost have to pay higher taxes to fund these raises. I definitely consider this not reading the room and have said so myself before seeing this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:Should read the room. The feds who survived are looking at 0% raise next year.

Nobody cares. It’s not about you this time.

This forum is always telling teachers who complain to quit their jobs, parents can do that too if they are unhappy at their jobs.

Non-Fed/non-teacher here. I think they're extremely related. The people struggling without jobs or not getting their own raises while everything increases in cost have to pay higher taxes to fund these raises. I definitely consider this not reading the room and have said so myself before seeing this thread.

The only room they read is the Fairfax County Democratic Committee.

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Anonymous wrote:Should read the room. The feds who survived are looking at 0% raise next year.

Nobody cares. It’s not about you this time.

This forum is always telling teachers who complain to quit their jobs, parents can do that too if they are unhappy at their jobs.

Non-Fed/non-teacher here. I think they're extremely related. The people struggling without jobs or not getting their own raises while everything increases in cost have to pay higher taxes to fund these raises. I definitely consider this not reading the room and have said so myself before seeing this thread.

When things are booming and the people with non-teaching jobs are getting their own raises, do they advocate for those in the public sector to get higher raises? Perhaps they do, but I don’t recall many ever saying, “I’m getting a _____% raise and teachers are only getting ____%? That’s too low. Raise it to match what I’m getting”.

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Anonymous wrote:Axe all HR employees that don’t want to leave their house for work.

This is just a post against all remote work. There’s no reason why someone processing benefit claims and filling out spreadsheets can’t work at home.

Even with all of that in mind? I think the HR people went back like a year and a half ago.