No cupcake / treat rule...

[Anonymous]

Glad the teacher chimed in! Now, if more teachers would control their classrooms, make policy, and enforce, all would be better. Yeah, just commenting on the birthday celebration issue but it starts here. Run the classroom as you see fit, teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Glad the teacher chimed in! Now, if more teachers would control their classrooms, make policy, and enforce, all would be better. Yeah, just commenting on the birthday celebration issue but it starts here. Run the classroom as you see fit, teachers.

I'm the teacher who commented before. Just wanted to add that while most parents followed the policy there were 2 that sent their kids in with treats anyway. It was very frustrating. We did not have a class party those days but the kids gave out what they brought at dismissal. I was very annoyed at the entitled parents who disregarded the rule. Next year I will be even firmer about it and warn the parents that if they send in treats, the treats will be sent back home with the kids.

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately, there needs to be a junk food ban in schools. 1/3 kids are overweight and 20% are obese. Unless very drastic action is taken this public crisis will continue to get worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My child has no allergies, but I'm a strong advocate of the no treat policy. Before our school had one, parents were one-upping each other on birthday treats. One parent ordered pizza and had it delivered, another made up a bunch of treat bags for every student, etc.

It gets so ridiculous and then every child expects similar treatment.

+1 my kids' ES had a no treats/outside food policy the whole time they were there. The principal told us she implemented it because of the this over the top/one-upping behavior. Especially problematic in a school with segments that were very wealthy and very poor.

They are out of ES now and it was never an issue. They just never expected food at school (and school lunches have enough crap in them). Birthdays were celebrated with a morning announcement, sing "happy birthday" in the classroom, and a new colorful pencil.

Parents who think this is some kind of tragedy are imposing their own expectations. Treat it as normal, which it should be, and the kids will see it as normal. They can have their cupcakes after school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, there needs to be a junk food ban in schools. 1/3 kids are overweight and 20% are obese. Unless very drastic action is taken this public crisis will continue to get worse.

Agree. But that won’t happen. The free breakfast and lunch handed out is also junk. But the least schools could do what no food incentives in class and no birthday treats, etc. My middle schooler was routinely given king sized candy bars for winning various class games. He even got a Sonic milkshake as a prize once. Teachers would have cabinets for of small chip bags and takis to give out as incentives too. Gross. And this is in a high FARMS school where a high proportion of the kids are already overweight

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Anonymous wrote:I’m personally opposed to the no treats at all rules but this is wild. The parents shouldn’t be able to circumvent the rules like this and it shouldn’t fall to you to figure out how to respond.

Why? I don't have kids with allergies but if I was told they couldn't bring treats in it would be fine. Why would I think bringing in treats for my kid could possibly be more important than any number of valid reasons to ban this practice?

I don’t like this solution, but of course I’m fine too. I stated my personal opinion here to make the point that, even with my own feelings about this, I am totally on OP’s side here and it’s wild that the rule is being circumvented.

You don't make any sense. Why are you opposed to the no treats at all rule? You (maybe?) understand the rationale behind the rule. So why are you opposed to it?

lol okay. Are you just trying to pick a fight? I am firmly on OP’s side. Rules are rules and they exist for a reason. My kid’s school has a no treats rule and I would never try to circumvent it. Do I think there are ways to have treats safely and would I prefer this *if that were actually outlined in school policy*? Yes. But that is beside the point here, because some parents think they are above the rules and that is an actual problem. If you like the no treats policies, great. Fortunately I am a respectful adult so I am really good at respecting policies that aren’t my personal preference.

Then you don't understand allergies. Got it.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m personally opposed to the no treats at all rules but this is wild. The parents shouldn’t be able to circumvent the rules like this and it shouldn’t fall to you to figure out how to respond.

Why? I don't have kids with allergies but if I was told they couldn't bring treats in it would be fine. Why would I think bringing in treats for my kid could possibly be more important than any number of valid reasons to ban this practice?

I don’t like this solution, but of course I’m fine too. I stated my personal opinion here to make the point that, even with my own feelings about this, I am totally on OP’s side here and it’s wild that the rule is being circumvented.

You don't make any sense. Why are you opposed to the no treats at all rule? You (maybe?) understand the rationale behind the rule. So why are you opposed to it?

lol okay. Are you just trying to pick a fight? I am firmly on OP’s side. Rules are rules and they exist for a reason. My kid’s school has a no treats rule and I would never try to circumvent it. Do I think there are ways to have treats safely and would I prefer this *if that were actually outlined in school policy*? Yes. But that is beside the point here, because some parents think they are above the rules and that is an actual problem. If you like the no treats policies, great. Fortunately I am a respectful adult so I am really good at respecting policies that aren’t my personal preference.

Then you don't understand allergies. Got it.

🙄🙄🙄 I’m not sure why you’re trying to have a side debate with me. Literally the only reason I mentioned my personal policy preference was to make the point that, even coming at this from the other side, OP is completely in the right and the other parents are wrong. I have not tried to engage in policy debate beyond that. I don’t know why this offends you, but you might want to focus your energy on the many (as evidenced by this thread) people who think they’re actually above the rules.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m personally opposed to the no treats at all rules but this is wild. The parents shouldn’t be able to circumvent the rules like this and it shouldn’t fall to you to figure out how to respond.

Why? I don't have kids with allergies but if I was told they couldn't bring treats in it would be fine. Why would I think bringing in treats for my kid could possibly be more important than any number of valid reasons to ban this practice?

I don’t like this solution, but of course I’m fine too. I stated my personal opinion here to make the point that, even with my own feelings about this, I am totally on OP’s side here and it’s wild that the rule is being circumvented.

You don't make any sense. Why are you opposed to the no treats at all rule? You (maybe?) understand the rationale behind the rule. So why are you opposed to it?

lol okay. Are you just trying to pick a fight? I am firmly on OP’s side. Rules are rules and they exist for a reason. My kid’s school has a no treats rule and I would never try to circumvent it. Do I think there are ways to have treats safely and would I prefer this *if that were actually outlined in school policy*? Yes. But that is beside the point here, because some parents think they are above the rules and that is an actual problem. If you like the no treats policies, great. Fortunately I am a respectful adult so I am really good at respecting policies that aren’t my personal preference.

Then you don't understand allergies. Got it.

🙄🙄🙄 I’m not sure why you’re trying to have a side debate with me. Literally the only reason I mentioned my personal policy preference was to make the point that, even coming at this from the other side, OP is completely in the right and the other parents are wrong. I have not tried to engage in policy debate beyond that. I don’t know why this offends you, but you might want to focus your energy on the many (as evidenced by this thread) people who think they’re actually above the rules.

And “literally” all I did was ask why you’re opposed to the no treats rule. You think there’s a way to do it “safely” but that’s not the case for all kids so at the end of the day you think your kid’s desire to bring in treats is more important than the kid with the allergy who will be left out because they can’t safely have whatever it is you want to bring in.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m personally opposed to the no treats at all rules but this is wild. The parents shouldn’t be able to circumvent the rules like this and it shouldn’t fall to you to figure out how to respond.

Why? I don't have kids with allergies but if I was told they couldn't bring treats in it would be fine. Why would I think bringing in treats for my kid could possibly be more important than any number of valid reasons to ban this practice?

I don’t like this solution, but of course I’m fine too. I stated my personal opinion here to make the point that, even with my own feelings about this, I am totally on OP’s side here and it’s wild that the rule is being circumvented.

You don't make any sense. Why are you opposed to the no treats at all rule? You (maybe?) understand the rationale behind the rule. So why are you opposed to it?

lol okay. Are you just trying to pick a fight? I am firmly on OP’s side. Rules are rules and they exist for a reason. My kid’s school has a no treats rule and I would never try to circumvent it. Do I think there are ways to have treats safely and would I prefer this *if that were actually outlined in school policy*? Yes. But that is beside the point here, because some parents think they are above the rules and that is an actual problem. If you like the no treats policies, great. Fortunately I am a respectful adult so I am really good at respecting policies that aren’t my personal preference.

Then you don't understand allergies. Got it.

🙄🙄🙄 I’m not sure why you’re trying to have a side debate with me. Literally the only reason I mentioned my personal policy preference was to make the point that, even coming at this from the other side, OP is completely in the right and the other parents are wrong. I have not tried to engage in policy debate beyond that. I don’t know why this offends you, but you might want to focus your energy on the many (as evidenced by this thread) people who think they’re actually above the rules.

And “literally” all I did was ask why you’re opposed to the no treats rule. You think there’s a way to do it “safely” but that’s not the case for all kids so at the end of the day you think your kid’s desire to bring in treats is more important than the kid with the allergy who will be left out because they can’t safely have whatever it is you want to bring in.

You did “literally” just ask me. I declined to engage in the argument and instead reiterated that I respect these policies 100%. You continue to attack me for not personally liking the policies. Sorry, I guess.

[Anonymous]

Why can't parents just stick to the "no treats" rule? Most of my kids' teachers used to just turn them away at the door.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why can't parents just stick to the "no treats" rule? Most of my kids' teachers used to just turn them away at the door.

Because some people apparently think the rule is stupid. (I vehemently disagree with them and think they're awful, to be clear)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Tell your kid they have allergies and cant eat the treats at school. I have allergies and so do my kids. My kids know they cant partake and it's not a big deal.

But it sucks that people think it's a "classroom celebration" when a handful of kids can't join in. If you want to have just a few kids eat a treat, you can invite them to a party. For the classroom, it's not hard to find a non-food way to celebrate.

Should we just not invite these kids to actual birthday parties then?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Glad the teacher chimed in! Now, if more teachers would control their classrooms, make policy, and enforce, all would be better. Yeah, just commenting on the birthday celebration issue but it starts here. Run the classroom as you see fit, teachers.

I'm the teacher who commented before. Just wanted to add that while most parents followed the policy there were 2 that sent their kids in with treats anyway. It was very frustrating. We did not have a class party those days but the kids gave out what they brought at dismissal. I was very annoyed at the entitled parents who disregarded the rule. Next year I will be even firmer about it and warn the parents that if they send in treats, the treats will be sent back home with the kids.

No, you throw them out. Handing out the treats at dismissal is worse than serving them. So, the parents still get reinforced for sending them in, the kids whose parents follow rules still get hurt, and then the allergenic foods are on the bus where cleaning is a bigger issue, there is less supervision to catch an allergic reaction, etc. . .

Call the parents and tell them you will store the treats until the end of the day and they can pick them up, or they will be discarded at dismissal.

— another teacher

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Anonymous wrote:Glad the teacher chimed in! Now, if more teachers would control their classrooms, make policy, and enforce, all would be better. Yeah, just commenting on the birthday celebration issue but it starts here. Run the classroom as you see fit, teachers.

I'm the teacher who commented before. Just wanted to add that while most parents followed the policy there were 2 that sent their kids in with treats anyway. It was very frustrating. We did not have a class party those days but the kids gave out what they brought at dismissal. I was very annoyed at the entitled parents who disregarded the rule. Next year I will be even firmer about it and warn the parents that if they send in treats, the treats will be sent back home with the kids.

No, you throw them out. Handing out the treats at dismissal is worse than serving them. So, the parents still get reinforced for sending them in, the kids whose parents follow rules still get hurt, and then the allergenic foods are on the bus where cleaning is a bigger issue, there is less supervision to catch an allergic reaction, etc. . .

Call the parents and tell them you will store the treats until the end of the day and they can pick them up, or they will be discarded at dismissal.

— another teacher

Are they even allowed to have them on the bus?

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Anonymous wrote:Glad the teacher chimed in! Now, if more teachers would control their classrooms, make policy, and enforce, all would be better. Yeah, just commenting on the birthday celebration issue but it starts here. Run the classroom as you see fit, teachers.

I'm the teacher who commented before. Just wanted to add that while most parents followed the policy there were 2 that sent their kids in with treats anyway. It was very frustrating. We did not have a class party those days but the kids gave out what they brought at dismissal. I was very annoyed at the entitled parents who disregarded the rule. Next year I will be even firmer about it and warn the parents that if they send in treats, the treats will be sent back home with the kids.

No, you throw them out. Handing out the treats at dismissal is worse than serving them. So, the parents still get reinforced for sending them in, the kids whose parents follow rules still get hurt, and then the allergenic foods are on the bus where cleaning is a bigger issue, there is less supervision to catch an allergic reaction, etc. . .

Call the parents and tell them you will store the treats until the end of the day and they can pick them up, or they will be discarded at dismissal.

— another teacher

Yes, I think you are right, and that's what I'll do next year. My school doesn't have school busses FWIW. --Teacher who responded befire