Mexican ship hits Brooklyn Bridge

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Anonymous wrote:Masts have a fixed height. The Brooklyn Bridge also has a fixed height. This should never have happened. When do the manslaughter charges get filed.

That was my first thought. A power outage does not alter basic geometry conflicts.
That Mexican training vessel had a lot more problems than the power outage.
One has to wonder about its level of training.

True, but would a power outage keep them from stopping or turning?

Yes, 100%. I'm a sailor, and without either a motor or wind power (under sail), you would not be able to control the ship well.

Hence one of the 100s of tugboats should hav e been preventing this fatal disaster

It looks like the tug that pulled the ship out of it's berth had already uncoupled, and so wasn't attached to be able to pull it away from the bridge. At the time of the impact it appears to have been trying to get around behind the ship, to push it, but didn't get there fast enough.

They push. Tugboats usually push large ships for better aim/ steering when docking or in busy urban waters. Their whole front is rubber for pushing and tapping.

Anyhow. Each sail mast bar had 3-6 sailors on it so this is devastating

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Masts have a fixed height. The Brooklyn Bridge also has a fixed height. This should never have happened. When do the manslaughter charges get filed.

That was my first thought. A power outage does not alter basic geometry conflicts.
That Mexican training vessel had a lot more problems than the power outage.
One has to wonder about its level of training.

True, but would a power outage keep them from stopping or turning?

Yes, 100%. I'm a sailor, and without either a motor or wind power (under sail), you would not be able to control the ship well.

Hence one of the 100s of tugboats should hav e been preventing this fatal disaster

It looks like the tug that pulled the ship out of its berth had already uncoupled, and so wasn't attached to be able to pull it away from the bridge. At the time of the impact it appears to have been trying to get around behind the ship, to push it, but didn't get there fast enough.

So it was docked at the Manhattan Seaport, was pulled/ pushed out, had engine power and was let go, then did not and drifted quickly north into the bridge!?

Very similar to the mechanical difficulties of the container ship in Baltimore harbor port. Got tugged out and never worked.

Who’s vetting the petrol quality and on-port mechanics at American ports?!?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Masts have a fixed height. The Brooklyn Bridge also has a fixed height. This should never have happened. When do the manslaughter charges get filed.

That was my first thought. A power outage does not alter basic geometry conflicts.
That Mexican training vessel had a lot more problems than the power outage.
One has to wonder about its level of training.

True, but would a power outage keep them from stopping or turning?

Yes, 100%. I'm a sailor, and without either a motor or wind power (under sail), you would not be able to control the ship well.

Hence one of the 100s of tugboats should hav e been preventing this fatal disaster

It looks like the tug that pulled the ship out of its berth had already uncoupled, and so wasn't attached to be able to pull it away from the bridge. At the time of the impact it appears to have been trying to get around behind the ship, to push it, but didn't get there fast enough.

So it was docked at the Manhattan Seaport, was pulled/ pushed out, had engine power and was let go, then did not and drifted quickly north into the bridge!?

Very similar to the mechanical difficulties of the container ship in Baltimore harbor port. Got tugged out and never worked.

Who’s vetting the petrol quality and on-port mechanics at American ports?!?

Correct. It was never meant to clear the bridge, but the engine died and the operator (an American) lost control.

[Anonymous]

What is with ships losing power?!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a Mexican navy ship. Not sure where PP got the pirate ship?

Yeah; that seems kinda racist.

Yes, this is a good time to consider the various racial aspects. Racist ship. Racist water. Racist current. Racist bridge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Masts have a fixed height. The Brooklyn Bridge also has a fixed height. This should never have happened. When do the manslaughter charges get filed.

That was my first thought. A power outage does not alter basic geometry conflicts.
That Mexican training vessel had a lot more problems than the power outage.
One has to wonder about its level of training.

True, but would a power outage keep them from stopping or turning?

Yes, 100%. I'm a sailor, and without either a motor or wind power (under sail), you would not be able to control the ship well.

Hence one of the 100s of tugboats should hav e been preventing this fatal disaster

It looks like the tug that pulled the ship out of its berth had already uncoupled, and so wasn't attached to be able to pull it away from the bridge. At the time of the impact it appears to have been trying to get around behind the ship, to push it, but didn't get there fast enough.

So it was docked at the Manhattan Seaport, was pulled/ pushed out, had engine power and was let go, then did not and drifted quickly north into the bridge!?

Very similar to the mechanical difficulties of the container ship in Baltimore harbor port. Got tugged out and never worked.

Who’s vetting the petrol quality and on-port mechanics at American ports?!?

Good question. Who is looking into the sabotage angle of the balto and now this mechanical failure? What’s the status on the former?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Masts have a fixed height. The Brooklyn Bridge also has a fixed height. This should never have happened. When do the manslaughter charges get filed.

That was my first thought. A power outage does not alter basic geometry conflicts.
That Mexican training vessel had a lot more problems than the power outage.
One has to wonder about its level of training.

True, but would a power outage keep them from stopping or turning?

Yes, 100%. I'm a sailor, and without either a motor or wind power (under sail), you would not be able to control the ship well.

Hence one of the 100s of tugboats should hav e been preventing this fatal disaster

It looks like the tug that pulled the ship out of it's berth had already uncoupled, and so wasn't attached to be able to pull it away from the bridge. At the time of the impact it appears to have been trying to get around behind the ship, to push it, but didn't get there fast enough.

They push. Tugboats usually push large ships for better aim/ steering when docking or in busy urban waters. Their whole front is rubber for pushing and tapping.

Anyhow. Each sail mast bar had 3-6 sailors on it so this is devastating

When things started to go badly the ship was moving away from the tug, and the tug was by the bow. There is no way to push the bow of the boat that will stop it from going backward.

[Anonymous]

The video of this was so amazing, when I first saw it I just assumed it was AI.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Masts have a fixed height. The Brooklyn Bridge also has a fixed height. This should never have happened. When do the manslaughter charges get filed.

That was my first thought. A power outage does not alter basic geometry conflicts.
That Mexican training vessel had a lot more problems than the power outage.
One has to wonder about its level of training.

True, but would a power outage keep them from stopping or turning?

Yes, 100%. I'm a sailor, and without either a motor or wind power (under sail), you would not be able to control the ship well.

Hence one of the 100s of tugboats should hav e been preventing this fatal disaster

It looks like the tug that pulled the ship out of it's berth had already uncoupled, and so wasn't attached to be able to pull it away from the bridge. At the time of the impact it appears to have been trying to get around behind the ship, to push it, but didn't get there fast enough.

They push. Tugboats usually push large ships for better aim/ steering when docking or in busy urban waters. Their whole front is rubber for pushing and tapping.

Anyhow. Each sail mast bar had 3-6 sailors on it so this is devastating

When things started to go badly the ship was moving away from the tug, and the tug was by the bow. There is no way to push the bow of the boat that will stop it from going backward.

Again, bad move by the tug, to not have ONE stationed between the land and ship. Only had one in middle of river. Should have had TWO; it was a gorgeous large tall ship reliant only on engine power when at harbor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a Mexican navy ship. Not sure where PP got the pirate ship?

Yeah; that seems kinda racist.

Yes, this is a good time to consider the various racial aspects. Racist ship. Racist water. Racist current. Racist bridge.

Everyone knows pirates are somali these days. Before that they all looked like Johnny Depp.

[Anonymous]

So close to the bridge and the current sucking it upstream.

Dumb and dumber to only rely on engine power and failsafes (more boats, a full escort) right there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a Mexican navy ship. Not sure where PP got the pirate ship?

Yeah; that seems kinda racist.

Yes, this is a good time to consider the various racial aspects. Racist ship. Racist water. Racist current. Racist bridge.

Everyone knows pirates are somali these days. Before that they all looked like Johnny Depp.

ok; that stereotype really IS racist.

[Anonymous]

Turns out that trump caused this and the coast guard is trying to cover it up


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/coast-guard-rejects-schumers-claim-doge-contributed-fatal-brooklyn-bridge-crash

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Masts have a fixed height. The Brooklyn Bridge also has a fixed height. This should never have happened. When do the manslaughter charges get filed.

Clearance can change based on water level. It's still a huge eff up, but it's not like driving a truck under a highway bridge.

Knowing the tides and current flow at what time given location is basic sailing.

Who was the Captain? And the tug boat operator? Seems like just a hot mess all around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is with ships losing power?!

Some bad agent or foreign spy is contaminating the gasoline at ports or going on board as a mechanic and snipping some wires. Good times.