AP Calc BC - B grade - what are the chances for Ivy and MIT

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Anonymous wrote:What is sad is that the entire class of TJ is brilliant but because everyone is brilliant it makes it harder. I would consider going back to regular school and child will get in everywhere. Also after the NMS nonsense I would not trust how applications are handled. Please tell your child they are great and that you will get them through this. Hate kids being stressed out over things they cannot control.

This. This admissions season someone posted a podcast with transcript where admissions officers reviewed the applications from 3 high schools. One was a TJ student. That student was held to a ridiculous standard by the admissions officers. The student wanted to be an economics major but had not done "original research in economics" (the student had only taken 2 years of math beyond calculus, micro and macro econ and was president of the math team and worked in a STEM internship but the admissions team said it didn't support the major and just wasn't impressive enough). It was insanity. Meanwhile the other students from regular high schools (not in the DMV) had 1/4 of the resume and were reviewed better.

That admissions officer is an a$$hat. I highly doubt that's the standard they hold TJ students to. They don't have time to review applications like that anyway. It's- grades, SATs, anything impressive

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My only B in school was a B+ in Geometry. I had a 800 math score on the SATs and got into MIT. I'm not Asian though.

I maybe down played this, but I had multiple state and national awards, leadership, community service and more when I applied. So, in other words, the grades and SAT scores just get you to the table. Then you have to prove what makes you extra, extra.

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If you google it you see the podcast, but it was deleted from this site:

30% TJ student with 1540+ SAT

“There's a podcast with former AOs from yesterday (Inside the Admissions Office (episode 107)), where a panel of speakers is”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is sad is that the entire class of TJ is brilliant but because everyone is brilliant it makes it harder. I would consider going back to regular school and child will get in everywhere. Also after the NMS nonsense I would not trust how applications are handled. Please tell your child they are great and that you will get them through this. Hate kids being stressed out over things they cannot control.

This. This admissions season someone posted a podcast with transcript where admissions officers reviewed the applications from 3 high schools. One was a TJ student. That student was held to a ridiculous standard by the admissions officers. The student wanted to be an economics major but had not done "original research in economics" (the student had only taken 2 years of math beyond calculus, micro and macro econ and was president of the math team and worked in a STEM internship but the admissions team said it didn't support the major and just wasn't impressive enough). It was insanity. Meanwhile the other students from regular high schools (not in the DMV) had 1/4 of the resume and were reviewed better.

That admissions officer is an a$$hat. I highly doubt that's the standard they hold TJ students to. They don't have time to review applications like that anyway. It's- grades, SATs, anything impressive

That’s not true at all. If you have gone through the T20 admissions process, you will know that they look at you in comparison to your high school. That is the first cut. After that once you’ve made that cut, then they look at you in detail. You can bet the regional admissions officer knows your high school well knows it down to the hard teachers and the easy teachers. The know whether a B is common in that class or not.

Listen to the Dartmouth and Yale podcasts. And this one.

[Anonymous]

The bumped up 1590 thread talks about that TJ kid too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is sad is that the entire class of TJ is brilliant but because everyone is brilliant it makes it harder. I would consider going back to regular school and child will get in everywhere. Also after the NMS nonsense I would not trust how applications are handled. Please tell your child they are great and that you will get them through this. Hate kids being stressed out over things they cannot control.

What’s sad is some believe this!😊

[Anonymous]

BC Calc is child’s play for most MIT kids and math/sciencey kids at HYP. Most finished it in 9th or 10th grade.

If you can’t ace BC Calc, no Ivy for you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
This. This admissions season someone posted a podcast with transcript where admissions officers reviewed the applications from 3 high schools. One was a TJ student. That student was held to a ridiculous standard by the admissions officers. The student wanted to be an economics major but had not done "original research in economics" (the student had only taken 2 years of math beyond calculus, micro and macro econ and was president of the math team and worked in a STEM internship but the admissions team said it didn't support the major and just wasn't impressive enough). It was insanity. Meanwhile the other students from regular high schools (not in the DMV) had 1/4 of the resume and were reviewed better.

The problem is that the student was geared towards a STEM major; he came across as someone trying to backdoor into MIT as a STEM Major. Look at his background:

1. TJ = STEM
2. Math Team = STEM
3. Adv Math = STEM
4. STEM Internship = STEM

Who knows if the kid is trying to backdoor or honestly wants to study Econ? Looks like a backdoor to me. He maybe more capable student in Econ but the backdoor is not good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
This. This admissions season someone posted a podcast with transcript where admissions officers reviewed the applications from 3 high schools. One was a TJ student. That student was held to a ridiculous standard by the admissions officers. The student wanted to be an economics major but had not done "original research in economics" (the student had only taken 2 years of math beyond calculus, micro and macro econ and was president of the math team and worked in a STEM internship but the admissions team said it didn't support the major and just wasn't impressive enough). It was insanity. Meanwhile the other students from regular high schools (not in the DMV) had 1/4 of the resume and were reviewed better.

The problem is that the student was geared towards a STEM major; he came across as someone trying to backdoor into MIT as a STEM Major. Look at his background:

1. TJ = STEM
2. Math Team = STEM
3. Adv Math = STEM
4. STEM Internship = STEM

Who knows if the kid is trying to backdoor or honestly wants to study Econ? Looks like a backdoor to me. He maybe more capable student in Econ but the backdoor is not good.

The TJ econ applicant from tihs podcast was applying to Yale, not MIT.

[Anonymous]

This is from the counselor:

Students who want to stand out academically need to take the most rigorous course load, especially in their subject of interest. For STEM students, that includes top math and science courses, going above Calc BC, and high-level science courses. Students need to balance grades with rigor; minimal variation in both GPA and course load are ideal. Students taking and excelling in Calc BC as sophomores will be competitive for top tier STEM schools such as MIT whereas students taking Calc BC junior year will be more competitive at second-tier STEM schools such as Georgia Tech. Top students should be taking post-AP level course-work senior year and maxing out class options in their desired field. It’s essential for students to maintain a rigorous course load senior year, including taking a math class.
https://ingeniusprep.com/blog/applying-to-college-from-a-competitive-high-school/

[Anonymous]

^^^
It’s why major matters….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Child in TJ - current Junior and may end with B grade in AP Calc BC. I have heard all grades should be A being Asian to get into Ivy/MIT/Stanford. What are the chances for those schools for a Bio major with a B grade in AP Calc BC and remaining As or A- in Junior year. Overall GPA end of Junior will be close to 4.3; SAT 1570+; Good ECs

Pick another major….
What are the ECs??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BC Calc is child’s play for most MIT kids and math/sciencey kids at HYP. Most finished it in 9th or 10th grade.

If you can’t ace BC Calc, no Ivy for you!

My kid aced BC Calc in 10th (and every class for that matter) and no Ivy as CS major. MCPS SMCS magnet so similar situation to the TJ student mention earlier. Standard very high. All worked out though. Go Terps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is sad is that the entire class of TJ is brilliant but because everyone is brilliant it makes it harder. I would consider going back to regular school and child will get in everywhere. Also after the NMS nonsense I would not trust how applications are handled. Please tell your child they are great and that you will get them through this. Hate kids being stressed out over things they cannot control.

This. This admissions season someone posted a podcast with transcript where admissions officers reviewed the applications from 3 high schools. One was a TJ student. That student was held to a ridiculous standard by the admissions officers. The student wanted to be an economics major but had not done "original research in economics" (the student had only taken 2 years of math beyond calculus, micro and macro econ and was president of the math team and worked in a STEM internship but the admissions team said it didn't support the major and just wasn't impressive enough). It was insanity. Meanwhile the other students from regular high schools (not in the DMV) had 1/4 of the resume and were reviewed better.

The problem with that kid was that they chose “Econ & Math” as the major with nothing to back up the Econ?

It was Yale and Yale looks for something distinctive from their STEM students. Really niche. It’s why a Yale stem admit is more likely to get into Stanford as well but never MIT.

[Anonymous]

A students work for B students, C students own the company, and D students dedicate the buildings.