The Virgin Mary and Muslims

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Anonymous wrote:If my husband couldn't find adequate housing for me to have my baby, I'd probably disavow his parentage and present myself as a virgin mother too.

Ditto

Are you living in Palestine in the year one?

I think you mean the Kingdom of Judea.

DP.

No, it was Palestine. Judea under Roman rule was Palestine.

Don't you know Palestine never existed and that there is no such thing as a Palestinian? (/s)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do Muslims traditionally acknowledge that the Virgin Mary is a Jew?

Again, Islam is an Abrahamic religion. Meaning that Muslims consider their religion to be a continuation of Judaism and Christianity (“people of the book”)

So why do they hate Christians and Jews? Seems weird if they are all related.

History, power struggles and conflict of interest.

Not true. There are some who do and some who benefit from the hatred but yes majority of common people doesn't. Most people want to live and let live.

No. Muslims do not hate anyone.

Please don't perpetuate anti-Muslim hate on DCUM.

Muslims, or anyone, as a GROUP don't hate, but individual muslims do, just like individuals of any group can hate. The ability to hate - - and to love - is a human characteristic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do Muslims traditionally acknowledge that the Virgin Mary is a Jew?

Again, Islam is an Abrahamic religion. Meaning that Muslims consider their religion to be a continuation of Judaism and Christianity (“people of the book”)

So why do they hate Christians and Jews? Seems weird if they are all related.

Muslims don’t hate Christians and Jews. What they hate is their land and people being occupied and oppressed by Christians and Jews.

Most Muslim countries today were once colonized and occupied by European (Christian) powers. Many Muslims had to fight for their independence from colonial rule. And of course there is Israel who is still currently occupying and oppressing Palestinians.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do Muslims traditionally acknowledge that the Virgin Mary is a Jew?

Again, Islam is an Abrahamic religion. Meaning that Muslims consider their religion to be a continuation of Judaism and Christianity (“people of the book”)

So why do they hate Christians and Jews? Seems weird if they are all related.

Muslims don’t hate Christians and Jews. What they hate is their land and people being occupied and oppressed by Christians and Jews.

Most Muslim countries today were once colonized and occupied by European (Christian) powers. Many Muslims had to fight for their independence from colonial rule. And of course there is Israel who is still currently occupying and oppressing Palestinians.

And now the facts. Muslims occupied much of the Middle East. The Crusades were about Muslims occupying Christian lands and desecrating sacred sites like the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. The Turks conquered Constantinople, which is now called Istanbul, and turned the Hagia Sofia church into a mosque. They attempted to conquer Vienna and wanted to conquer Rome. Ever wonder what happened to the Byzantine Empire? As for Israel, it is the land of the Jewish people. This is religious and historical fact. Think Judea and Jewish. Israel is occupying its own land.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Bible and Quran have many figures and stories in common, including Jesus, Virgin Mary, etc. They are revered but not at the level they are revered by Christians.

Why would ISIS destroy the tomb of Jonah in Iraq?

Because they oppose idolatry.

Having a tomb is idolatry? Are you sympathetic to ISIS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Bible and Quran have many figures and stories in common, including Jesus, Virgin Mary, etc. They are revered but not at the level they are revered by Christians.

Why would ISIS destroy the tomb of Jonah in Iraq?

Because they oppose idolatry.

Having a tomb is idolatry? Are you sympathetic to ISIS?

ISIS has a very fundamentalist version of Islam and its insistence on monotheism. Marked graves are eschewed for fear of fostering a cult of the dead, so I assume this sentiment was behind the destruction of Jonah's tomb.

The first king of Saudi Arabia, which practices Wahhabism, a very strict version of Islam, was buried in an unmarked grave for this reason.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do Muslims traditionally acknowledge that the Virgin Mary is a Jew?

Again, Islam is an Abrahamic religion. Meaning that Muslims consider their religion to be a continuation of Judaism and Christianity (“people of the book”)

So why do they hate Christians and Jews? Seems weird if they are all related.

Muslims don’t hate Christians and Jews. What they hate is their land and people being occupied and oppressed by Christians and Jews.

Most Muslim countries today were once colonized and occupied by European (Christian) powers. Many Muslims had to fight for their independence from colonial rule. And of course there is Israel who is still currently occupying and oppressing Palestinians.

And now the facts. Muslims occupied much of the Middle East. The Crusades were about Muslims occupying Christian lands and desecrating sacred sites like the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. The Turks conquered Constantinople, which is now called Istanbul, and turned the Hagia Sofia church into a mosque. They attempted to conquer Vienna and wanted to conquer Rome. Ever wonder what happened to the Byzantine Empire? As for Israel, it is the land of the Jewish people. This is religious and historical fact. Think Judea and Jewish. Israel is occupying its own land.

Everything you wrote above does not negate the fact that most Muslim countries (in MODERN times) were once colonized by Christian countries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Quran identifies four women as being amongst the best in Paradise: Maryam bint 'Imran (Mary, the mother of Jesus), Khadijah bint Khuwaylid (Muhammad's first wife), Fatimah bint Muhammad (Muhammad's youngest daughter), and Asiyah bint Muzahim (Pharaoh's wife who saved baby Moses). These women are recognized for their piety, devotion, and strong faith.

Ayesha was the 6 yr old that the 54 yr old Mohammad married, and consummated the marriage when she was 9. Also, Ayesha never had kids even though she had sexual intercourse with Mohammad. She was 18 when Mohammad died.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do Muslims traditionally acknowledge that the Virgin Mary is a Jew?

Again, Islam is an Abrahamic religion. Meaning that Muslims consider their religion to be a continuation of Judaism and Christianity (“people of the book”)

So why do they hate Christians and Jews? Seems weird if they are all related.

Muslims don’t hate Christians and Jews. What they hate is their land and people being occupied and oppressed by Christians and Jews.

Most Muslim countries today were once colonized and occupied by European (Christian) powers. Many Muslims had to fight for their independence from colonial rule. And of course there is Israel who is still currently occupying and oppressing Palestinians.

And now the facts. Muslims occupied much of the Middle East. The Crusades were about Muslims occupying Christian lands and desecrating sacred sites like the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. The Turks conquered Constantinople, which is now called Istanbul, and turned the Hagia Sofia church into a mosque. They attempted to conquer Vienna and wanted to conquer Rome. Ever wonder what happened to the Byzantine Empire? As for Israel, it is the land of the Jewish people. This is religious and historical fact. Think Judea and Jewish. Israel is occupying its own land.

Everything you wrote above does not negate the fact that most Muslim countries (in MODERN times) were once colonized by Christian countries.

Correct. It's absolutely standard procedure for different cultures to steal from and conquer each other. It even happens within Cultures. Remember Henry the VIII and Oliver Cromwell?

[Anonymous]

Are you talking about post-World War 1 mandates after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire? Which Middle Eastern country do you believe was a colony of a European country for any substantive period of time (I'll give you Algeria, but that is North Africa)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are you talking about post-World War 1 mandates after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire? Which Middle Eastern country do you believe was a colony of a European country for any substantive period of time (I'll give you Algeria, but that is North Africa)?

The British colonized Egypt, Palestine, Iraq, Jordan, Sudan.
The French colonized Lebanon, Syria, Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco etc…
Libya was colonized by Italy.

Morocco still has areas that are still colonized to this day by Spain (Ceuta and Mellila).

https://arabcenterdc.org/resource/the-colonial-legacy-in-the-arab-world-health-education-and-politics/

https://coldwarstudies.com/2013/01/11/history-of-colonization-in-the-middle-east-and-north-africa-mena-precursor-to-cold-war-conflict/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are you talking about post-World War 1 mandates after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire? Which Middle Eastern country do you believe was a colony of a European country for any substantive period of time (I'll give you Algeria, but that is North Africa)?

North Africa is Muslim-majority.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you talking about post-World War 1 mandates after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire? Which Middle Eastern country do you believe was a colony of a European country for any substantive period of time (I'll give you Algeria, but that is North Africa)?

The British colonized Egypt, Palestine, Iraq, Jordan, Sudan.
The French colonized Lebanon, Syria, Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco etc…
Libya was colonized by Italy.

Morocco still has areas that are still colonized to this day by Spain (Ceuta and Mellila).

https://arabcenterdc.org/resource/the-colonial-legacy-in-the-arab-world-health-education-and-politics/

https://coldwarstudies.com/2013/01/11/history-of-colonization-in-the-middle-east-and-north-africa-mena-precursor-to-cold-war-conflict/

Egypt was not a British colony.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Egypt_under_the_British

As for Israel, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, these were French and British mandates after the Ottoman Empire dissolved after World War 1. They were not colonies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Are you talking about post-World War 1 mandates after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire? Which Middle Eastern country do you believe was a colony of a European country for any substantive period of time (I'll give you Algeria, but that is North Africa)?

The British colonized Egypt, Palestine, Iraq, Jordan, Sudan.
The French colonized Lebanon, Syria, Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco etc…
Libya was colonized by Italy.

Morocco still has areas that are still colonized to this day by Spain (Ceuta and Mellila).

https://arabcenterdc.org/resource/the-colonial-legacy-in-the-arab-world-health-education-and-politics/

https://coldwarstudies.com/2013/01/11/history-of-colonization-in-the-middle-east-and-north-africa-mena-precursor-to-cold-war-conflict/

Egypt was not a British colony.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Egypt_under_the_British

As for Israel, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, these were French and British mandates after the Ottoman Empire dissolved after World War 1. They were not colonies.

The link you posted clearly states that Britain occupied Egypt. That’s called colonization in case you were not aware.

As for your second paragraph, care to share links? Because ask any well-educated historian and they would disagree with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jesus’ mother is an historical figure. Only Catholics believe she was a virgin and Jesus her only child.

Clearly you have never read the Holy Quran.