Hair dresser tipping

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a similar issue. My stylist is moving from a salon to working out of her house so will set her own prices now. Doesn’t that mean I shouldn’t need to tip her now? She’s not paying for a salon chair anymore. I don’t know; I kind of agree with OP that no tip should be expected in these circumstances.

She’s paying her mortgage through her labor just like you are. Would you be ok with your company dialing down your pay from using home office vs onsite )

(can be hypothetical if you are always in office)

Give it a think. I don’t think tips need to be required if the norm becomes not paying them prices will go up. Get comfortable with that. I imagine your stylist working from home is not charging more than she did in the salon.

Also, I hit submit too soon. Her day-to-day tasks are increased because she doesn’t have a shampoo person or someone to clean the space, plus she’s doing all the admin. So her time commitment is greater now. Plus any online marketing, scheduling, client maintenance.

[Anonymous]

It doesn't matter if it's the custom to tip or not because op was paying a tip for years and now she doesn't want to. She established a pattern and now she broke it so it's not the hairdresser's fault she looked surprised over something unexpected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Disagree on this. Hairstylists pay relies on tips. It’s one of the few professions, IMO, that you should tip (another being a restaurant server). You don’t think your stylist is feeling a pinch from our current economy too?

You don't understand. Independent hairstylists own their own business and have fixed monthly costs. They set their own pricing. If they want $120/cut, they should charge $120 not $100+tip.

Ok. Done.

[Anonymous]

How much do you tip on highlights? They cost about 200 or more. That is very expensive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Disagree on this. Hairstylists pay relies on tips. It’s one of the few professions, IMO, that you should tip (another being a restaurant server). You don’t think your stylist is feeling a pinch from our current economy too?

Well her choice is either getting business from OP or not. Would she rather get $100 or $0? If she NEEDS $120, then she should make that her price. She gets all of the money, she's not an employee or independent contractor but rather a sole proprietor.

You (and OP) know that this profession depends on tips. That’s why the question even came up. If you decide not to get your hair done, your favorite stylist goes out of business.

Also, maybe OP can clear up her stylist being the owner? You can be an independent stylist and rent out a chair in a salon without being the owner. It’s not quite the same as being the owner.

Learn how to read. OP literally says her hairstylist is independent and rents out a closet-sized space. Learn how the economy works. Independent owners set their own prices. They can charge what they want. No need to tip someone who sets their own prices. I will die on this hill.

I do tip my hairstylist who works for a salon very well because she gets paid a salary. There is a difference. You need to go back to school if you cannot understand this.

I’m laughing. Yeah, technically they are an independent business. However, they don’t own a large business where they’re making money by renting out chairs to other people. That’s where of the mindset of you don’t pay. The owner came from that they were getting tipped out or paid rent on the entire salon. Someone renting one chair is not receiving that.

It’s OK if you don’t want to tip but the mental gymnastics around this are ridiculous. I can’t even believe how many posts were. People are wanting a less expensive service. So if you don’t want to pay tips and you don’t want stylists that charge a fair wage how does this work?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How much do you tip on highlights? They cost about 200 or more. That is very expensive.

So perhaps if it’s considered expensive, you cannot afford $200 highlights

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, next time if she is the owner, just call ahead and tell her, that you can't afford anything more than the list price. If it's okay with her you can book an appointment, otherwise will schedule once you can afford to pay list + tip. Just be transparent. If I am used to getting tips from you for 15 years and then I am expecting one, whether or not it is discretionary or not. I would have appreciated that knowing in advance. The only risk is that she may not want to do an excellent job, but in that case, I would say you get what you pay. Atleast she won't feel cheated at the end of the service and you won't feel guilty for skipping on the tip

I would think you did not care forgot service of your tipping style changes. I don’t get tips from everyone and many give more that 25%. I don’t expect tips but I do notice when folks are changing their style or spreading out appointments. I’d rather we talk about it than we both create a huge story about why it’s ok to not tip or why you can’t come in unless you can. We can meet in the middle through conversation. I work on commission and have some latitude on where to offer perks with the salon splitting that cost with me. You could skip a blow out too to save of that helps. It’s not a concern for me

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a similar issue. My stylist is moving from a salon to working out of her house so will set her own prices now. Doesn’t that mean I shouldn’t need to tip her now? She’s not paying for a salon chair anymore. I don’t know; I kind of agree with OP that no tip should be expected in these circumstances.

If she’s an owner working out of her own home, you do not tip.

[Anonymous]

So if my stylist rents her own small space I don’t need to tip? Why them does she hand me an Ipad with 3 options? 20/25/30% tip? It’s so gross. And a haircut costs $175. I hate going there but I love how it looks. I am shamed into tipping so I do it. I just go really I frequently. I’m in DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So if my stylist rents her own small space I don’t need to tip? Why them does she hand me an Ipad with 3 options? 20/25/30% tip? It’s so gross. And a haircut costs $175. I hate going there but I love how it looks. I am shamed into tipping so I do it. I just go really I frequently. I’m in DC.

Go to hair cuttery. Kidding, kind of. There is somewhere in between $175 and $35. However at some point it will show. If you have an $$ job yourself you need an higher end stylist.

Also you can set your own top amount.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a similar issue. My stylist is moving from a salon to working out of her house so will set her own prices now. Doesn’t that mean I shouldn’t need to tip her now? She’s not paying for a salon chair anymore. I don’t know; I kind of agree with OP that no tip should be expected in these circumstances.

If she’s an owner working out of her own home, you do not tip.

Why? She’s still paying for the sq ft.

[Anonymous]

A tip is a something extra for something above and beyond. No one should expect it. And just because you used to do it doesn’t mean you’re required to give it every time. You’re required to pay the fee for the service and nothing more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Disagree on this. Hairstylists pay relies on tips. It’s one of the few professions, IMO, that you should tip (another being a restaurant server). You don’t think your stylist is feeling a pinch from our current economy too?

Well her choice is either getting business from OP or not. Would she rather get $100 or $0? If she NEEDS $120, then she should make that her price. She gets all of the money, she's not an employee or independent contractor but rather a sole proprietor.

You (and OP) know that this profession depends on tips. That’s why the question even came up. If you decide not to get your hair done, your favorite stylist goes out of business.

Also, maybe OP can clear up her stylist being the owner? You can be an independent stylist and rent out a chair in a salon without being the owner. It’s not quite the same as being the owner.

Learn how to read. OP literally says her hairstylist is independent and rents out a closet-sized space. Learn how the economy works. Independent owners set their own prices. They can charge what they want. No need to tip someone who sets their own prices. I will die on this hill.

I do tip my hairstylist who works for a salon very well because she gets paid a salary. There is a difference. You need to go back to school if you cannot understand this.

I’m laughing. Yeah, technically they are an independent business. However, they don’t own a large business where they’re making money by renting out chairs to other people. That’s where of the mindset of you don’t pay. The owner came from that they were getting tipped out or paid rent on the entire salon. Someone renting one chair is not receiving that.

It’s OK if you don’t want to tip but the mental gymnastics around this are ridiculous. I can’t even believe how many posts were. People are wanting a less expensive service. So if you don’t want to pay tips and you don’t want stylists that charge a fair wage how does this work?

What I want is someone who charges the amount they want to be paid. Then I pay whatever it is, and I’m not expected to add extra!

[Anonymous]

If I can't tip you, I can't afford to get my hair done. Not tipping is unacceptable.

[Anonymous]

If the hairdresser does an extra good job you maybe tip more, if it doesn’t look quite right, you tip less. You never tip 20 or 25% every single time and act like that’s the price. A tip for something else for a job well done.