Hair dresser tipping

[Anonymous]

Well, next time if she is the owner, just call ahead and tell her, that you can't afford anything more than the list price. If it's okay with her you can book an appointment, otherwise will schedule once you can afford to pay list + tip. Just be transparent. If I am used to getting tips from you for 15 years and then I am expecting one, whether or not it is discretionary or not. I would have appreciated that knowing in advance. The only risk is that she may not want to do an excellent job, but in that case, I would say you get what you pay. Atleast she won't feel cheated at the end of the service and you won't feel guilty for skipping on the tip

[Anonymous]

I think it's incredibly stupid to tip someone who is an independent stylist that owns their own business. They should just set their prices to be what they want. I won't go back to someone like this that expects a tip. That's not how this works - they get literally ALL the money except their overhead and they want extra? Just up your prices, dummies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, next time if she is the owner, just call ahead and tell her, that you can't afford anything more than the list price. If it's okay with her you can book an appointment, otherwise will schedule once you can afford to pay list + tip. Just be transparent. If I am used to getting tips from you for 15 years and then I am expecting one, whether or not it is discretionary or not. I would have appreciated that knowing in advance. The only risk is that she may not want to do an excellent job, but in that case, I would say you get what you pay. Atleast she won't feel cheated at the end of the service and you won't feel guilty for skipping on the tip

No. The stylist is the one who needs transparent pricing. She works for herself. She doesn't need a tip, she needs transparent pricing where she gets paid what she thinks she is worth. Consumers can take it or leave it but don't trick them into paying you extra.

[Anonymous]

I don't think it's okay at all to bring up your circumstances to avoid paying what you used to pay. It's awkward, and over how much money even, the price of a takeout pizza? Not enough to justify the awkward TMI. Either you budget and take that into account so you can pay with tip, or you go somewhere cheaper where you can easily tip, or you do it yourself at home (I do that).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it's incredibly stupid to tip someone who is an independent stylist that owns their own business. They should just set their prices to be what they want. I won't go back to someone like this that expects a tip. That's not how this works - they get literally ALL the money except their overhead and they want extra? Just up your prices, dummies.

+1 I agree with you. At some point as society we moved from not tipping the owners to the expectation to tip when in reality they set their own prices and they should not be tipped.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Disagree on this. Hairstylists pay relies on tips. It’s one of the few professions, IMO, that you should tip (another being a restaurant server). You don’t think your stylist is feeling a pinch from our current economy too?

You don't understand. Independent hairstylists own their own business and have fixed monthly costs. They set their own pricing. If they want $120/cut, they should charge $120 not $100+tip.

[Anonymous]

So many people here can't read or are just stupid about the economics. Once again, independent hairstylists own their own business and have fixed monthly costs. They set their own pricing. If they want $120/cut, they should charge $120 not $100+tip.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Disagree on this. Hairstylists pay relies on tips. It’s one of the few professions, IMO, that you should tip (another being a restaurant server). You don’t think your stylist is feeling a pinch from our current economy too?

Well her choice is either getting business from OP or not. Would she rather get $100 or $0? If she NEEDS $120, then she should make that her price. She gets all of the money, she's not an employee or independent contractor but rather a sole proprietor.

You (and OP) know that this profession depends on tips. That’s why the question even came up. If you decide not to get your hair done, your favorite stylist goes out of business.

Also, maybe OP can clear up her stylist being the owner? You can be an independent stylist and rent out a chair in a salon without being the owner. It’s not quite the same as being the owner.

Learn how to read. OP literally says her hairstylist is independent and rents out a closet-sized space. Learn how the economy works. Independent owners set their own prices. They can charge what they want. No need to tip someone who sets their own prices. I will die on this hill.

I do tip my hairstylist who works for a salon very well because she gets paid a salary. There is a difference. You need to go back to school if you cannot understand this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So many people here can't read or are just stupid about the economics. Once again, independent hairstylists own their own business and have fixed monthly costs. They set their own pricing. If they want $120/cut, they should charge $120 not $100+tip.

Or you are just too stupid and stuck on your own OPINION.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Disagree on this. Hairstylists pay relies on tips. It’s one of the few professions, IMO, that you should tip (another being a restaurant server). You don’t think your stylist is feeling a pinch from our current economy too?

Why do they rely on tips? Don't they set their own rates? They aren't like waitresses who are paid a tipped wage.

They are paid a reduced wage and they aren’t salaried employees.

Are you stupid? They set their own prices. Their wage is only reduced if they make it that way. WTF is wrong with you rich ladies?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think culture and etiquette have evolved. It definitely used to be you didn't tip a salon owner because they got all the fees. See Emily Post circa 1965.
But apparently now everybody gets tipped as a service provider.

OP sounds like you need to go less frequently, get a less expensive place or something because your regular isn't going along.

tipping culture is out of control. nobody who gets paid a living wage should expect a tip. I'm a consultant, please start tipping me, too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hair dressers who rent a chair do not rely on tips. They basically make $150 an hour and pay no one but themselves.

Except all of the bills of running the place if you are the owner.

SET. YOUR. PRICES. TO. REFLECT. YOUR. VALUE. AND. EXPENSES.

Anyone who doesn't do this doesn't deserve to run their own business.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course you tip.

Hard no on owners. Never.

[Anonymous]

I have a similar issue. My stylist is moving from a salon to working out of her house so will set her own prices now. Doesn’t that mean I shouldn’t need to tip her now? She’s not paying for a salon chair anymore. I don’t know; I kind of agree with OP that no tip should be expected in these circumstances.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a similar issue. My stylist is moving from a salon to working out of her house so will set her own prices now. Doesn’t that mean I shouldn’t need to tip her now? She’s not paying for a salon chair anymore. I don’t know; I kind of agree with OP that no tip should be expected in these circumstances.

She’s paying her mortgage through her labor just like you are. Would you be ok with your company dialing down your pay from using home office vs onsite )

(can be hypothetical if you are always in office)

Give it a think. I don’t think tips need to be required if the norm becomes not paying them prices will go up. Get comfortable with that. I imagine your stylist working from home is not charging more than she did in the salon.