Latin Cooper versus DCI for IEP

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Anonymous wrote:Do you find the constant device usage a problem? I heard it has gotten a bit better but I still hear stories from the neighbor kids at DCI about kids in their class playing games all day. I worry about this for my kid with ADHD. I don't think it will be good for her.

Not pp, but yes. We hear from admin that they are trying to incorporate more offline learning, but it's not happening fast enough for my ADHD child, at least not so far into the first year of middle school. Who knows if the new principal will feel the same.

The school can lock down the student's Chromebook if families request it to a more extreme setting than the default. This can help but may also make it hard for the student to access certain sites that teachers use, such as ones with embedded videos.

From asking about computers when touring other schools, this problem is not unique to DCI so we will stay for 7th.

Meant to add when I asked this question of other middle school families I knew, some with older kids said Latin used to be much less computer focused pre-covid but now it didn't sound all that different from DCI.

DCI is much more screen focused than Stuart Hobson (kids at both). Friends at Latin describe it as having less screens than SH, so I’d be very surprised if Latin and DCI were equivalent in this respect.

Kids at Latin aren’t watching TV and playing video games at school like some kids at DCI. It is teacher dependent but in general so much screen time.

Kids at dci aren’t watching tv. Maybe in remedial classes? But not true for my kids or anyone we know.

Or maybe your middle school kid doesn’t tell you? It’s so secret that DCI kids spend tons of time on screens. On our lids shadow day at DCI tons of kids were watching Tv and playing non educational games.

That’s not been our experience. What I do know is the kids who were behind and struggling at our feeder were thrilled with the much easier curriculum at Latin. Finally they didn’t have to struggle to learn languages at a high level. Math and science is much easier at Latin too. It’s a great place for an average and below average kid. I do think dci drops the ball on average/struggling kids and they’d be better off at a much easier school like Latin. But whatever works for your kids of course.

How is this possible when the Latin Science CAPE scores are SO MUCH higher than DCI? More than 50 percent profieciency versus less than 10 percent? Latin is second only to BASIS on science education.

Ignore her. She posts this crap constantly, and about any school seen as better than DCI. Yesterday she was obsessively posting about how Schools Without Walls is only for mediocre students.

Why is this crap? I'm a NP but such a big difference in test scores does undermine the narrative on this thread that Latin is weak at STEM and only for mediocre students.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you find the constant device usage a problem? I heard it has gotten a bit better but I still hear stories from the neighbor kids at DCI about kids in their class playing games all day. I worry about this for my kid with ADHD. I don't think it will be good for her.

Not pp, but yes. We hear from admin that they are trying to incorporate more offline learning, but it's not happening fast enough for my ADHD child, at least not so far into the first year of middle school. Who knows if the new principal will feel the same.

The school can lock down the student's Chromebook if families request it to a more extreme setting than the default. This can help but may also make it hard for the student to access certain sites that teachers use, such as ones with embedded videos.

From asking about computers when touring other schools, this problem is not unique to DCI so we will stay for 7th.

Meant to add when I asked this question of other middle school families I knew, some with older kids said Latin used to be much less computer focused pre-covid but now it didn't sound all that different from DCI.

DCI is much more screen focused than Stuart Hobson (kids at both). Friends at Latin describe it as having less screens than SH, so I’d be very surprised if Latin and DCI were equivalent in this respect.

Kids at Latin aren’t watching TV and playing video games at school like some kids at DCI. It is teacher dependent but in general so much screen time.

Kids at dci aren’t watching tv. Maybe in remedial classes? But not true for my kids or anyone we know.

Or maybe your middle school kid doesn’t tell you? It’s so secret that DCI kids spend tons of time on screens. On our lids shadow day at DCI tons of kids were watching Tv and playing non educational games.

That’s not been our experience. What I do know is the kids who were behind and struggling at our feeder were thrilled with the much easier curriculum at Latin. Finally they didn’t have to struggle to learn languages at a high level. Math and science is much easier at Latin too. It’s a great place for an average and below average kid. I do think dci drops the ball on average/struggling kids and they’d be better off at a much easier school like Latin. But whatever works for your kids of course.

How is this possible when the Latin Science CAPE scores are SO MUCH higher than DCI? More than 50 percent profieciency versus less than 10 percent? Latin is second only to BASIS on science education.

Ignore her. She posts this crap constantly, and about any school seen as better than DCI. Yesterday she was obsessively posting about how Schools Without Walls is only for mediocre students.

Why is this crap? I'm a NP but such a big difference in test scores does undermine the narrative on this thread that Latin is weak at STEM and only for mediocre students.

Because you post a thousand times a day the same thing, while pretending to be different posters?

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Anonymous wrote:Do you find the constant device usage a problem? I heard it has gotten a bit better but I still hear stories from the neighbor kids at DCI about kids in their class playing games all day. I worry about this for my kid with ADHD. I don't think it will be good for her.

Not pp, but yes. We hear from admin that they are trying to incorporate more offline learning, but it's not happening fast enough for my ADHD child, at least not so far into the first year of middle school. Who knows if the new principal will feel the same.

The school can lock down the student's Chromebook if families request it to a more extreme setting than the default. This can help but may also make it hard for the student to access certain sites that teachers use, such as ones with embedded videos.

From asking about computers when touring other schools, this problem is not unique to DCI so we will stay for 7th.

Meant to add when I asked this question of other middle school families I knew, some with older kids said Latin used to be much less computer focused pre-covid but now it didn't sound all that different from DCI.

DCI is much more screen focused than Stuart Hobson (kids at both). Friends at Latin describe it as having less screens than SH, so I’d be very surprised if Latin and DCI were equivalent in this respect.

Kids at Latin aren’t watching TV and playing video games at school like some kids at DCI. It is teacher dependent but in general so much screen time.

Kids at dci aren’t watching tv. Maybe in remedial classes? But not true for my kids or anyone we know.

Or maybe your middle school kid doesn’t tell you? It’s so secret that DCI kids spend tons of time on screens. On our lids shadow day at DCI tons of kids were watching Tv and playing non educational games.

That’s not been our experience. What I do know is the kids who were behind and struggling at our feeder were thrilled with the much easier curriculum at Latin. Finally they didn’t have to struggle to learn languages at a high level. Math and science is much easier at Latin too. It’s a great place for an average and below average kid. I do think dci drops the ball on average/struggling kids and they’d be better off at a much easier school like Latin. But whatever works for your kids of course.

How is this possible when the Latin Science CAPE scores are SO MUCH higher than DCI? More than 50 percent profieciency versus less than 10 percent? Latin is second only to BASIS on science education.

Ignore her. She posts this crap constantly, and about any school seen as better than DCI. Yesterday she was obsessively posting about how Schools Without Walls is only for mediocre students.

Why is this crap? I'm a NP but such a big difference in test scores does undermine the narrative on this thread that Latin is weak at STEM and only for mediocre students.

I think the PP was saying ignore the poster who likes to say that Latin and Walls are for "mediocre" students and will boost DCI any chance she gets, not to ignore the test scores.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you find the constant device usage a problem? I heard it has gotten a bit better but I still hear stories from the neighbor kids at DCI about kids in their class playing games all day. I worry about this for my kid with ADHD. I don't think it will be good for her.

Not pp, but yes. We hear from admin that they are trying to incorporate more offline learning, but it's not happening fast enough for my ADHD child, at least not so far into the first year of middle school. Who knows if the new principal will feel the same.

The school can lock down the student's Chromebook if families request it to a more extreme setting than the default. This can help but may also make it hard for the student to access certain sites that teachers use, such as ones with embedded videos.

From asking about computers when touring other schools, this problem is not unique to DCI so we will stay for 7th.

Meant to add when I asked this question of other middle school families I knew, some with older kids said Latin used to be much less computer focused pre-covid but now it didn't sound all that different from DCI.

DCI is much more screen focused than Stuart Hobson (kids at both). Friends at Latin describe it as having less screens than SH, so I’d be very surprised if Latin and DCI were equivalent in this respect.

Kids at Latin aren’t watching TV and playing video games at school like some kids at DCI. It is teacher dependent but in general so much screen time.

Kids at dci aren’t watching tv. Maybe in remedial classes? But not true for my kids or anyone we know.

Or maybe your middle school kid doesn’t tell you? It’s so secret that DCI kids spend tons of time on screens. On our lids shadow day at DCI tons of kids were watching Tv and playing non educational games.

That’s not been our experience. What I do know is the kids who were behind and struggling at our feeder were thrilled with the much easier curriculum at Latin. Finally they didn’t have to struggle to learn languages at a high level. Math and science is much easier at Latin too. It’s a great place for an average and below average kid. I do think dci drops the ball on average/struggling kids and they’d be better off at a much easier school like Latin. But whatever works for your kids of course.

How is this possible when the Latin Science CAPE scores are SO MUCH higher than DCI? More than 50 percent profieciency versus less than 10 percent? Latin is second only to BASIS on science education.

Ignore her. She posts this crap constantly, and about any school seen as better than DCI. Yesterday she was obsessively posting about how Schools Without Walls is only for mediocre students.

Why is this crap? I'm a NP but such a big difference in test scores does undermine the narrative on this thread that Latin is weak at STEM and only for mediocre students.

I think the PP was saying ignore the poster who likes to say that Latin and Walls are for "mediocre" students and will boost DCI any chance she gets, not to ignore the test scores.

It’s not everyone’s cup of tea.

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Anonymous wrote:With an IEP, you might actually be best off at DCPS. So unless continuing full-time with the current second language is really important to you (and/or a huge strength for your child), I think I would try 5th at Latin see how it goes.

Dcps is a joke on all levels but especially poor for special needs kids. Never ever again.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you find the constant device usage a problem? I heard it has gotten a bit better but I still hear stories from the neighbor kids at DCI about kids in their class playing games all day. I worry about this for my kid with ADHD. I don't think it will be good for her.

Not pp, but yes. We hear from admin that they are trying to incorporate more offline learning, but it's not happening fast enough for my ADHD child, at least not so far into the first year of middle school. Who knows if the new principal will feel the same.

The school can lock down the student's Chromebook if families request it to a more extreme setting than the default. This can help but may also make it hard for the student to access certain sites that teachers use, such as ones with embedded videos.

From asking about computers when touring other schools, this problem is not unique to DCI so we will stay for 7th.

Meant to add when I asked this question of other middle school families I knew, some with older kids said Latin used to be much less computer focused pre-covid but now it didn't sound all that different from DCI.

DCI is much more screen focused than Stuart Hobson (kids at both). Friends at Latin describe it as having less screens than SH, so I’d be very surprised if Latin and DCI were equivalent in this respect.

Kids at Latin aren’t watching TV and playing video games at school like some kids at DCI. It is teacher dependent but in general so much screen time.

Kids at dci aren’t watching tv. Maybe in remedial classes? But not true for my kids or anyone we know.

Or maybe your middle school kid doesn’t tell you? It’s so secret that DCI kids spend tons of time on screens. On our lids shadow day at DCI tons of kids were watching Tv and playing non educational games.

That’s not been our experience. What I do know is the kids who were behind and struggling at our feeder were thrilled with the much easier curriculum at Latin. Finally they didn’t have to struggle to learn languages at a high level. Math and science is much easier at Latin too. It’s a great place for an average and below average kid. I do think dci drops the ball on average/struggling kids and they’d be better off at a much easier school like Latin. But whatever works for your kids of course.

How is this possible when the Latin Science CAPE scores are SO MUCH higher than DCI? More than 50 percent profieciency versus less than 10 percent? Latin is second only to BASIS on science education.

Ignore her. She posts this crap constantly, and about any school seen as better than DCI. Yesterday she was obsessively posting about how Schools Without Walls is only for mediocre students.

She? Your misogyny is showing

People can have different opinions based on their own experiences. Calm down. Also for what it’s worth- not just one poster. I’ve agreed with this person.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you find the constant device usage a problem? I heard it has gotten a bit better but I still hear stories from the neighbor kids at DCI about kids in their class playing games all day. I worry about this for my kid with ADHD. I don't think it will be good for her.

Not pp, but yes. We hear from admin that they are trying to incorporate more offline learning, but it's not happening fast enough for my ADHD child, at least not so far into the first year of middle school. Who knows if the new principal will feel the same.

The school can lock down the student's Chromebook if families request it to a more extreme setting than the default. This can help but may also make it hard for the student to access certain sites that teachers use, such as ones with embedded videos.

From asking about computers when touring other schools, this problem is not unique to DCI so we will stay for 7th.

Meant to add when I asked this question of other middle school families I knew, some with older kids said Latin used to be much less computer focused pre-covid but now it didn't sound all that different from DCI.

DCI is much more screen focused than Stuart Hobson (kids at both). Friends at Latin describe it as having less screens than SH, so I’d be very surprised if Latin and DCI were equivalent in this respect.

Kids at Latin aren’t watching TV and playing video games at school like some kids at DCI. It is teacher dependent but in general so much screen time.

Kids at dci aren’t watching tv. Maybe in remedial classes? But not true for my kids or anyone we know.

Or maybe your middle school kid doesn’t tell you? It’s so secret that DCI kids spend tons of time on screens. On our lids shadow day at DCI tons of kids were watching Tv and playing non educational games.

That’s not been our experience. What I do know is the kids who were behind and struggling at our feeder were thrilled with the much easier curriculum at Latin. Finally they didn’t have to struggle to learn languages at a high level. Math and science is much easier at Latin too. It’s a great place for an average and below average kid. I do think dci drops the ball on average/struggling kids and they’d be better off at a much easier school like Latin. But whatever works for your kids of course.

How is this possible when the Latin Science CAPE scores are SO MUCH higher than DCI? More than 50 percent profieciency versus less than 10 percent? Latin is second only to BASIS on science education.

Ignore her. She posts this crap constantly, and about any school seen as better than DCI. Yesterday she was obsessively posting about how Schools Without Walls is only for mediocre students.

She? Your misogyny is showing

People can have different opinions based on their own experiences. Calm down. Also for what it’s worth- not just one poster. I’ve agreed with this person.

Oh look she is posting yet again while pretending to be a different person.

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Anonymous wrote:With an IEP, you might actually be best off at DCPS. So unless continuing full-time with the current second language is really important to you (and/or a huge strength for your child), I think I would try 5th at Latin see how it goes.

My child has had an IEP since pre-k. We’ve tried two DC charters and one DCPS over the years, and so far I’ve been happiest overall with their current charter. I’m not sure Latin is the place for my child as everybody who’s praised their special education services has referred to their child as having a mild disability. I played the lottery thinking ahead about where both of my children could go that’s close to my home and didn’t think my older child would get in. Welp, they did and now i’m struggling with the decision to uproot them from their current school where special ed is working to transition them to the unknown. I also know if I let go of this opportunity, I won’t get it again.

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Anonymous wrote:With an IEP, you might actually be best off at DCPS. So unless continuing full-time with the current second language is really important to you (and/or a huge strength for your child), I think I would try 5th at Latin see how it goes.

My child has had an IEP since pre-k. We’ve tried two DC charters and one DCPS over the years, and so far I’ve been happiest overall with their current charter. I’m not sure Latin is the place for my child as everybody who’s praised their special education services has referred to their child as having a mild disability. I played the lottery thinking ahead about where both of my children could go that’s close to my home and didn’t think my older child would get in. Welp, they did and now i’m struggling with the decision to uproot them from their current school where special ed is working to transition them to the unknown. I also know if I let go of this opportunity, I won’t get it again.

I would not if you are happy and your child has a significant disability unless you will need an option for HS. What is the terminal grade of your current charter?

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Anonymous wrote:With an IEP, you might actually be best off at DCPS. So unless continuing full-time with the current second language is really important to you (and/or a huge strength for your child), I think I would try 5th at Latin see how it goes.

My child has had an IEP since pre-k. We’ve tried two DC charters and one DCPS over the years, and so far I’ve been happiest overall with their current charter. I’m not sure Latin is the place for my child as everybody who’s praised their special education services has referred to their child as having a mild disability. I played the lottery thinking ahead about where both of my children could go that’s close to my home and didn’t think my older child would get in. Welp, they did and now i’m struggling with the decision to uproot them from their current school where special ed is working to transition them to the unknown. I also know if I let go of this opportunity, I won’t get it again.

I have no experience with IEPs, but I do have experience with Latin, and I doubt there is any school in this city that does more to nurture its students than Latin.

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5th. We can stay at our current one more year but then we are back to square one next year. We are at a DCI feeder so that’ll be a possible option. I’m not thrilled with what I’ve learned via this forum so far about Brookland Middle or Deal but they offer the services so I know that’s where we’d be placed by DCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:5th. We can stay at our current one more year but then we are back to square one next year. We are at a DCI feeder so that’ll be a possible option. I’m not thrilled with what I’ve learned via this forum so far about Brookland Middle or Deal but they offer the services so I know that’s where we’d be placed by DCPS.

In this case I would take the spot. You can always go back to DCPS but you will not get a shot at Latin again. Also would not do DCI in this case. See previous comments.

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Call Latin, tell them you matched, and ask to speak with the special ed coordinator. (You can try the same with DCI though I wasn't able to get many questions answered when we were choosing between the schools.) And speak to teachers and the ED at your charter. They have good insight about your kids and the middle schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Call Latin, tell them you matched, and ask to speak with the special ed coordinator. (You can try the same with DCI though I wasn't able to get many questions answered when we were choosing between the schools.) And speak to teachers and the ED at your charter. They have good insight about your kids and the middle schools.

Thank you. I did connect with Latin already and plan to talk with my child’s current team too. I think what I’m really looking for is insight from parents about what it’s like day to day for kids that need more support. If anyone has experience like that at Latin or DCI, I’d love to hear it.

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Anonymous wrote:Call Latin, tell them you matched, and ask to speak with the special ed coordinator. (You can try the same with DCI though I wasn't able to get many questions answered when we were choosing between the schools.) And speak to teachers and the ED at your charter. They have good insight about your kids and the middle schools.

Thank you. I did connect with Latin already and plan to talk with my child’s current team too. I think what I’m really looking for is insight from parents about what it’s like day to day for kids that need more support. If anyone has experience like that at Latin or DCI, I’d love to hear it.

DCI has integrated classes- so your special ed class will have two teachers and some kids will have an IEP/504 and others will not. Kids get extended time and supports as outlined on their IEP. OT and speech therapists have been outside contractors for us and generally very good. My kiddo has had to learn to advocate for themselves at times, letting the teachers know they must sit at the front of the classroom or receive extended time. I have had the occasional issue and the sped team has been responsive.