Latin Cooper versus DCI for IEP

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Anonymous wrote:No experience with Latin, but my DC’s 504 was totally disregarded at DCI couple years ago. We switched schools. It sounds from this thread like there’s been improvement recently. That just wasn’t our experience.

Did you read the other DCI thread about all of the special education teachers quitting?

DCI parent here. There has been turnover but we have had our IEP special Ed services met.

Don’t worry about IEP so much. We came from a dci feeder and the kids who peeled off to Latin loved it. Most of them struggled with the target language and were happier where they didn’t have to work as hard. DCI is great for STEM, so choose accordingly. If you want IB, DCI is better. If you want to focus on the classics and have an easier time, Latin is better. You’re in a very lucky spot!

Teacher turnover is an issue and will get worse with the tension right now. I can't believe you have a child with an IEP and recommend someone "not worry about IEP so much." You should absolutely worry about the IEP and how hard you will have to fight the school to get services and accommodations met. No parent of a child with an IEP would suggest not worrying about this.

You’re just not understanding my point. The IEP requirements will be the same because they are written into the IEP. If the school you choose doesn’t meet them you can get it enforced.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you find the constant device usage a problem? I heard it has gotten a bit better but I still hear stories from the neighbor kids at DCI about kids in their class playing games all day. I worry about this for my kid with ADHD. I don't think it will be good for her.

Not pp, but yes. We hear from admin that they are trying to incorporate more offline learning, but it's not happening fast enough for my ADHD child, at least not so far into the first year of middle school. Who knows if the new principal will feel the same.

The school can lock down the student's Chromebook if families request it to a more extreme setting than the default. This can help but may also make it hard for the student to access certain sites that teachers use, such as ones with embedded videos.

From asking about computers when touring other schools, this problem is not unique to DCI so we will stay for 7th.

Meant to add when I asked this question of other middle school families I knew, some with older kids said Latin used to be much less computer focused pre-covid but now it didn't sound all that different from DCI.

DCI is much more screen focused than Stuart Hobson (kids at both). Friends at Latin describe it as having less screens than SH, so I’d be very surprised if Latin and DCI were equivalent in this respect.

Kids at Latin aren’t watching TV and playing video games at school like some kids at DCI. It is teacher dependent but in general so much screen time.

Kids at dci aren’t watching tv. Maybe in remedial classes? But not true for my kids or anyone we know.

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Anonymous wrote:No experience with Latin, but my DC’s 504 was totally disregarded at DCI couple years ago. We switched schools. It sounds from this thread like there’s been improvement recently. That just wasn’t our experience.

Did you read the other DCI thread about all of the special education teachers quitting?

DCI parent here. There has been turnover but we have had our IEP special Ed services met.

Don’t worry about IEP so much. We came from a dci feeder and the kids who peeled off to Latin loved it. Most of them struggled with the target language and were happier where they didn’t have to work as hard. DCI is great for STEM, so choose accordingly. If you want IB, DCI is better. If you want to focus on the classics and have an easier time, Latin is better. You’re in a very lucky spot!

Teacher turnover is an issue and will get worse with the tension right now. I can't believe you have a child with an IEP and recommend someone "not worry about IEP so much." You should absolutely worry about the IEP and how hard you will have to fight the school to get services and accommodations met. No parent of a child with an IEP would suggest not worrying about this.

Not to get into it, but I personally don’t think teacher turnover is that big of an issue as it sounds. I have multiple kids at the school and this isn’t an issue

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Anonymous wrote:No experience with Latin, but my DC’s 504 was totally disregarded at DCI couple years ago. We switched schools. It sounds from this thread like there’s been improvement recently. That just wasn’t our experience.

Did you read the other DCI thread about all of the special education teachers quitting?

DCI parent here. There has been turnover but we have had our IEP special Ed services met.

Don’t worry about IEP so much. We came from a dci feeder and the kids who peeled off to Latin loved it. Most of them struggled with the target language and were happier where they didn’t have to work as hard. DCI is great for STEM, so choose accordingly. If you want IB, DCI is better. If you want to focus on the classics and have an easier time, Latin is better. You’re in a very lucky spot!

Teacher turnover is an issue and will get worse with the tension right now. I can't believe you have a child with an IEP and recommend someone "not worry about IEP so much." You should absolutely worry about the IEP and how hard you will have to fight the school to get services and accommodations met. No parent of a child with an IEP would suggest not worrying about this.

You’re just not understanding my point. The IEP requirements will be the same because they are written into the IEP. If the school you choose doesn’t meet them you can get it enforced.

Get it enforced? What does that even mean. You’ve clearly never fought to “have it enforced” and your post is really dismissive of students with disabilities and the battle families often have in school. It’s another full time job. Anyhow the OP asked about IEPs. Multiple posters including one who left the school say it’s not good. That is what the OP wants to know. So dismissing this isn’t helpful.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you find the constant device usage a problem? I heard it has gotten a bit better but I still hear stories from the neighbor kids at DCI about kids in their class playing games all day. I worry about this for my kid with ADHD. I don't think it will be good for her.

Not pp, but yes. We hear from admin that they are trying to incorporate more offline learning, but it's not happening fast enough for my ADHD child, at least not so far into the first year of middle school. Who knows if the new principal will feel the same.

The school can lock down the student's Chromebook if families request it to a more extreme setting than the default. This can help but may also make it hard for the student to access certain sites that teachers use, such as ones with embedded videos.

From asking about computers when touring other schools, this problem is not unique to DCI so we will stay for 7th.

Meant to add when I asked this question of other middle school families I knew, some with older kids said Latin used to be much less computer focused pre-covid but now it didn't sound all that different from DCI.

DCI is much more screen focused than Stuart Hobson (kids at both). Friends at Latin describe it as having less screens than SH, so I’d be very surprised if Latin and DCI were equivalent in this respect.

Kids at Latin aren’t watching TV and playing video games at school like some kids at DCI. It is teacher dependent but in general so much screen time.

Kids at dci aren’t watching tv. Maybe in remedial classes? But not true for my kids or anyone we know.

Or maybe your middle school kid doesn’t tell you? It’s so secret that DCI kids spend tons of time on screens. On our lids shadow day at DCI tons of kids were watching Tv and playing non educational games.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No experience with Latin, but my DC’s 504 was totally disregarded at DCI couple years ago. We switched schools. It sounds from this thread like there’s been improvement recently. That just wasn’t our experience.

Did you read the other DCI thread about all of the special education teachers quitting?

DCI parent here. There has been turnover but we have had our IEP special Ed services met.

Don’t worry about IEP so much. We came from a dci feeder and the kids who peeled off to Latin loved it. Most of them struggled with the target language and were happier where they didn’t have to work as hard. DCI is great for STEM, so choose accordingly. If you want IB, DCI is better. If you want to focus on the classics and have an easier time, Latin is better. You’re in a very lucky spot!

Teacher turnover is an issue and will get worse with the tension right now. I can't believe you have a child with an IEP and recommend someone "not worry about IEP so much." You should absolutely worry about the IEP and how hard you will have to fight the school to get services and accommodations met. No parent of a child with an IEP would suggest not worrying about this.

You’re just not understanding my point. The IEP requirements will be the same because they are written into the IEP. If the school you choose doesn’t meet them you can get it enforced.

“Get it enforced”??? You cannot have a kid with an IEP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No experience with Latin, but my DC’s 504 was totally disregarded at DCI couple years ago. We switched schools. It sounds from this thread like there’s been improvement recently. That just wasn’t our experience.

Did you read the other DCI thread about all of the special education teachers quitting?

DCI parent here. There has been turnover but we have had our IEP special Ed services met.

Don’t worry about IEP so much. We came from a dci feeder and the kids who peeled off to Latin loved it. Most of them struggled with the target language and were happier where they didn’t have to work as hard. DCI is great for STEM, so choose accordingly. If you want IB, DCI is better. If you want to focus on the classics and have an easier time, Latin is better. You’re in a very lucky spot!

Teacher turnover is an issue and will get worse with the tension right now. I can't believe you have a child with an IEP and recommend someone "not worry about IEP so much." You should absolutely worry about the IEP and how hard you will have to fight the school to get services and accommodations met. No parent of a child with an IEP would suggest not worrying about this.

You’re just not understanding my point. The IEP requirements will be the same because they are written into the IEP. If the school you choose doesn’t meet them you can get it enforced.

Get it enforced? What does that even mean. You’ve clearly never fought to “have it enforced” and your post is really dismissive of students with disabilities and the battle families often have in school. It’s another full time job. Anyhow the OP asked about IEPs. Multiple posters including one who left the school say it’s not good. That is what the OP wants to know. So dismissing this isn’t helpful.

We have not had to enforce the IEP at dci but did at a feeder. Calm down. I think when it comes to a special needs kid curriculum is very important if not more so than neurotypical kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you find the constant device usage a problem? I heard it has gotten a bit better but I still hear stories from the neighbor kids at DCI about kids in their class playing games all day. I worry about this for my kid with ADHD. I don't think it will be good for her.

Not pp, but yes. We hear from admin that they are trying to incorporate more offline learning, but it's not happening fast enough for my ADHD child, at least not so far into the first year of middle school. Who knows if the new principal will feel the same.

The school can lock down the student's Chromebook if families request it to a more extreme setting than the default. This can help but may also make it hard for the student to access certain sites that teachers use, such as ones with embedded videos.

From asking about computers when touring other schools, this problem is not unique to DCI so we will stay for 7th.

Meant to add when I asked this question of other middle school families I knew, some with older kids said Latin used to be much less computer focused pre-covid but now it didn't sound all that different from DCI.

DCI is much more screen focused than Stuart Hobson (kids at both). Friends at Latin describe it as having less screens than SH, so I’d be very surprised if Latin and DCI were equivalent in this respect.

Kids at Latin aren’t watching TV and playing video games at school like some kids at DCI. It is teacher dependent but in general so much screen time.

Kids at dci aren’t watching tv. Maybe in remedial classes? But not true for my kids or anyone we know.

Or maybe your middle school kid doesn’t tell you? It’s so secret that DCI kids spend tons of time on screens. On our lids shadow day at DCI tons of kids were watching Tv and playing non educational games.

That’s not been our experience. What I do know is the kids who were behind and struggling at our feeder were thrilled with the much easier curriculum at Latin. Finally they didn’t have to struggle to learn languages at a high level. Math and science is much easier at Latin too. It’s a great place for an average and below average kid. I do think dci drops the ball on average/struggling kids and they’d be better off at a much easier school like Latin. But whatever works for your kids of course.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you find the constant device usage a problem? I heard it has gotten a bit better but I still hear stories from the neighbor kids at DCI about kids in their class playing games all day. I worry about this for my kid with ADHD. I don't think it will be good for her.

Not pp, but yes. We hear from admin that they are trying to incorporate more offline learning, but it's not happening fast enough for my ADHD child, at least not so far into the first year of middle school. Who knows if the new principal will feel the same.

The school can lock down the student's Chromebook if families request it to a more extreme setting than the default. This can help but may also make it hard for the student to access certain sites that teachers use, such as ones with embedded videos.

From asking about computers when touring other schools, this problem is not unique to DCI so we will stay for 7th.

Meant to add when I asked this question of other middle school families I knew, some with older kids said Latin used to be much less computer focused pre-covid but now it didn't sound all that different from DCI.

Interesting. The families I know mentioned they have rolled it back a lot recently. Plus Latin doesn't allow cell phones.

Also banned at dci.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you find the constant device usage a problem? I heard it has gotten a bit better but I still hear stories from the neighbor kids at DCI about kids in their class playing games all day. I worry about this for my kid with ADHD. I don't think it will be good for her.

Not pp, but yes. We hear from admin that they are trying to incorporate more offline learning, but it's not happening fast enough for my ADHD child, at least not so far into the first year of middle school. Who knows if the new principal will feel the same.

The school can lock down the student's Chromebook if families request it to a more extreme setting than the default. This can help but may also make it hard for the student to access certain sites that teachers use, such as ones with embedded videos.

From asking about computers when touring other schools, this problem is not unique to DCI so we will stay for 7th.

Meant to add when I asked this question of other middle school families I knew, some with older kids said Latin used to be much less computer focused pre-covid but now it didn't sound all that different from DCI.

Interesting. The families I know mentioned they have rolled it back a lot recently. Plus Latin doesn't allow cell phones.

Also banned at dci.

DP. It didn’t sound like that based on what the DCI MS principal said at the info sessions a couple of months ago. Apparently there’s a pilot program to test yonder pouches in the HS but it hasn’t extended to MS—though they did say they do their best to limit phone use during the school day. They also said they had implemented one screen-free lunch each week because they were noticing how many kids were on their laptops during lunch.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you find the constant device usage a problem? I heard it has gotten a bit better but I still hear stories from the neighbor kids at DCI about kids in their class playing games all day. I worry about this for my kid with ADHD. I don't think it will be good for her.

Not pp, but yes. We hear from admin that they are trying to incorporate more offline learning, but it's not happening fast enough for my ADHD child, at least not so far into the first year of middle school. Who knows if the new principal will feel the same.

The school can lock down the student's Chromebook if families request it to a more extreme setting than the default. This can help but may also make it hard for the student to access certain sites that teachers use, such as ones with embedded videos.

From asking about computers when touring other schools, this problem is not unique to DCI so we will stay for 7th.

Meant to add when I asked this question of other middle school families I knew, some with older kids said Latin used to be much less computer focused pre-covid but now it didn't sound all that different from DCI.

DCI is much more screen focused than Stuart Hobson (kids at both). Friends at Latin describe it as having less screens than SH, so I’d be very surprised if Latin and DCI were equivalent in this respect.

Kids at Latin aren’t watching TV and playing video games at school like some kids at DCI. It is teacher dependent but in general so much screen time.

Kids at dci aren’t watching tv. Maybe in remedial classes? But not true for my kids or anyone we know.

Or maybe your middle school kid doesn’t tell you? It’s so secret that DCI kids spend tons of time on screens. On our lids shadow day at DCI tons of kids were watching Tv and playing non educational games.

That’s not been our experience. What I do know is the kids who were behind and struggling at our feeder were thrilled with the much easier curriculum at Latin. Finally they didn’t have to struggle to learn languages at a high level. Math and science is much easier at Latin too. It’s a great place for an average and below average kid. I do think dci drops the ball on average/struggling kids and they’d be better off at a much easier school like Latin. But whatever works for your kids of course.

You post this on every thread that mentions DCI and you aren’t even responding to what you quoted. This thread is about IEPs and not which school is easier. We are at a DCI feeder and a handful of kids left for Latin and Basis and it wasn’t because they struggled with language. One left because they were worried about sped services.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you find the constant device usage a problem? I heard it has gotten a bit better but I still hear stories from the neighbor kids at DCI about kids in their class playing games all day. I worry about this for my kid with ADHD. I don't think it will be good for her.

Not pp, but yes. We hear from admin that they are trying to incorporate more offline learning, but it's not happening fast enough for my ADHD child, at least not so far into the first year of middle school. Who knows if the new principal will feel the same.

The school can lock down the student's Chromebook if families request it to a more extreme setting than the default. This can help but may also make it hard for the student to access certain sites that teachers use, such as ones with embedded videos.

From asking about computers when touring other schools, this problem is not unique to DCI so we will stay for 7th.

Meant to add when I asked this question of other middle school families I knew, some with older kids said Latin used to be much less computer focused pre-covid but now it didn't sound all that different from DCI.

DCI is much more screen focused than Stuart Hobson (kids at both). Friends at Latin describe it as having less screens than SH, so I’d be very surprised if Latin and DCI were equivalent in this respect.

Kids at Latin aren’t watching TV and playing video games at school like some kids at DCI. It is teacher dependent but in general so much screen time.

Kids at dci aren’t watching tv. Maybe in remedial classes? But not true for my kids or anyone we know.

Or maybe your middle school kid doesn’t tell you? It’s so secret that DCI kids spend tons of time on screens. On our lids shadow day at DCI tons of kids were watching Tv and playing non educational games.

That’s not been our experience. What I do know is the kids who were behind and struggling at our feeder were thrilled with the much easier curriculum at Latin. Finally they didn’t have to struggle to learn languages at a high level. Math and science is much easier at Latin too. It’s a great place for an average and below average kid. I do think dci drops the ball on average/struggling kids and they’d be better off at a much easier school like Latin. But whatever works for your kids of course.

How many times a day do you think you post this weird nonsense?

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Anonymous wrote:Do you find the constant device usage a problem? I heard it has gotten a bit better but I still hear stories from the neighbor kids at DCI about kids in their class playing games all day. I worry about this for my kid with ADHD. I don't think it will be good for her.

Not pp, but yes. We hear from admin that they are trying to incorporate more offline learning, but it's not happening fast enough for my ADHD child, at least not so far into the first year of middle school. Who knows if the new principal will feel the same.

The school can lock down the student's Chromebook if families request it to a more extreme setting than the default. This can help but may also make it hard for the student to access certain sites that teachers use, such as ones with embedded videos.

From asking about computers when touring other schools, this problem is not unique to DCI so we will stay for 7th.

Meant to add when I asked this question of other middle school families I knew, some with older kids said Latin used to be much less computer focused pre-covid but now it didn't sound all that different from DCI.

DCI is much more screen focused than Stuart Hobson (kids at both). Friends at Latin describe it as having less screens than SH, so I’d be very surprised if Latin and DCI were equivalent in this respect.

Kids at Latin aren’t watching TV and playing video games at school like some kids at DCI. It is teacher dependent but in general so much screen time.

Kids at dci aren’t watching tv. Maybe in remedial classes? But not true for my kids or anyone we know.

Or maybe your middle school kid doesn’t tell you? It’s so secret that DCI kids spend tons of time on screens. On our lids shadow day at DCI tons of kids were watching Tv and playing non educational games.

That’s not been our experience. What I do know is the kids who were behind and struggling at our feeder were thrilled with the much easier curriculum at Latin. Finally they didn’t have to struggle to learn languages at a high level. Math and science is much easier at Latin too. It’s a great place for an average and below average kid. I do think dci drops the ball on average/struggling kids and they’d be better off at a much easier school like Latin. But whatever works for your kids of course.

How is this possible when the Latin Science CAPE scores are SO MUCH higher than DCI? More than 50 percent profieciency versus less than 10 percent? Latin is second only to BASIS on science education.

[Anonymous]

With an IEP, you might actually be best off at DCPS. So unless continuing full-time with the current second language is really important to you (and/or a huge strength for your child), I think I would try 5th at Latin see how it goes.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you find the constant device usage a problem? I heard it has gotten a bit better but I still hear stories from the neighbor kids at DCI about kids in their class playing games all day. I worry about this for my kid with ADHD. I don't think it will be good for her.

Not pp, but yes. We hear from admin that they are trying to incorporate more offline learning, but it's not happening fast enough for my ADHD child, at least not so far into the first year of middle school. Who knows if the new principal will feel the same.

The school can lock down the student's Chromebook if families request it to a more extreme setting than the default. This can help but may also make it hard for the student to access certain sites that teachers use, such as ones with embedded videos.

From asking about computers when touring other schools, this problem is not unique to DCI so we will stay for 7th.

Meant to add when I asked this question of other middle school families I knew, some with older kids said Latin used to be much less computer focused pre-covid but now it didn't sound all that different from DCI.

DCI is much more screen focused than Stuart Hobson (kids at both). Friends at Latin describe it as having less screens than SH, so I’d be very surprised if Latin and DCI were equivalent in this respect.

Kids at Latin aren’t watching TV and playing video games at school like some kids at DCI. It is teacher dependent but in general so much screen time.

Kids at dci aren’t watching tv. Maybe in remedial classes? But not true for my kids or anyone we know.

Or maybe your middle school kid doesn’t tell you? It’s so secret that DCI kids spend tons of time on screens. On our lids shadow day at DCI tons of kids were watching Tv and playing non educational games.

That’s not been our experience. What I do know is the kids who were behind and struggling at our feeder were thrilled with the much easier curriculum at Latin. Finally they didn’t have to struggle to learn languages at a high level. Math and science is much easier at Latin too. It’s a great place for an average and below average kid. I do think dci drops the ball on average/struggling kids and they’d be better off at a much easier school like Latin. But whatever works for your kids of course.

How is this possible when the Latin Science CAPE scores are SO MUCH higher than DCI? More than 50 percent profieciency versus less than 10 percent? Latin is second only to BASIS on science education.

Ignore her. She posts this crap constantly, and about any school seen as better than DCI. Yesterday she was obsessively posting about how Schools Without Walls is only for mediocre students.