American Women Are Giving Up on Marriage (Wall Street Journal)

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Women don’t need men to survive like they did in the past. We have our own money, our own homes, and our own children. Who needs a man anymore?

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Anonymous wrote:Women don’t need men to survive like they did in the past. We have our own money, our own homes, and our own children. Who needs a man anymore?

Women who aren’t rich

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Anonymous wrote:Those women are not settling for men who are not compatible, full partners. Nothing wrong with that. It sounds like if any of them met the right guy, they'd consider marriage.

But, doesn't that mean men are giving up too? The population of the U.S. is 50.5% female. If they aren't getting married, neither are men. Or is something going wrong with a large portion of the male population making them incompatible marriage partners?

Hard truth time: a large portion of the male population has always been comprised of "incompatible marriage partners" but women didn't used to have the agency to opt-out like we do now.

It goes both ways and is partially self fulfilling. The typical woman nowadays isn’t someone most men would want to marry. Men historically were motivated to work hard and become attractive by the prospect of marriage and supporting their family. If you look around and the available women don’t appeal to you, or give away sex without commitment, what’s the point in making yourself a marriageable man? If young men are losing hope that a good future spouse for them even exists, it greatly reduces their drive to become marriageable.

reminds me of this clip:

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Say Anything is a classic. It's one of the only teen movies where the guy treats his girlfriend right.

[Anonymous]

Marriage rates among college women have stayed steady. It’s the non college women who aren’t marrying.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s interesting because my understanding is that the sociological data shows that married parents have high levels of happiness. Having a stable family is an overall benefit to the individuals involved and society.

Certain demographic groups are more successful in forming and maintaining families including the college educated professional class, Asian Americans, and more religious people.

We talk about this issue with our teen. Alongside college and career prep, we want him to know the importance of family and the value of intentionally prioritizing a good marriage. It doesn’t just magically happen. Effort is both required and rewarded.

Married non-parents have even higher levels of happiness.

[Anonymous]

How is it that 66% of men say they want marriage as a means of making it in America but don't actually want to be in a marriage. Sounds like admiring the military while never wanting to be in it. Seems like a lot of people admire institutions they don't actually work to be a part of.

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Anonymous wrote:Those women are not settling for men who are not compatible, full partners. Nothing wrong with that. It sounds like if any of them met the right guy, they'd consider marriage.

But, doesn't that mean men are giving up too? The population of the U.S. is 50.5% female. If they aren't getting married, neither are men. Or is something going wrong with a large portion of the male population making them incompatible marriage partners?

Hard truth time: a large portion of the male population has always been comprised of "incompatible marriage partners" but women didn't used to have the agency to opt-out like we do now.

+ x 100 million

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Anonymous wrote:Those women are not settling for men who are not compatible, full partners. Nothing wrong with that. It sounds like if any of them met the right guy, they'd consider marriage.

But, doesn't that mean men are giving up too? The population of the U.S. is 50.5% female. If they aren't getting married, neither are men. Or is something going wrong with a large portion of the male population making them incompatible marriage partners?

Hard truth time: a large portion of the male population has always been comprised of "incompatible marriage partners" but women didn't used to have the agency to opt-out like we do now.

Another hard truth: Men at the top of the eligibility totem pole have historically always been able to enjoy the companionship of many women simultaneously, whether implicitly or explicitly.

[Anonymous]

After 2025 no unmarried female will have the choice again whether they get married.

Project 2025 come on down maga stupids.

Breeding homes are already being built in Ok, MO, Al, AR, Louisiana, MI, and Idaho. Idaho is putting them up super fast.

[Anonymous]

How many women, if given the chance to do it all over, would avoid marriage? And if you want children, choose to become single mothers instead. I know I would.

[Anonymous]

People are simply less interested in having children. They see what’s going on with climate change, they worry about the environment, they worry about having any type of retirement. It’s harder to buy a house.

It’s just less attractive to have kids. If you don’t want kids, marriage, all of a sudden becomes a lot less attractive. I agree that for raising kids marriage, assuming it’s a decent one, not to an addict or an abuser or a complete loser, is still probably the ideal. But if you’re less interested in kids, you’re going to be less interested in marriage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:After 2025 no unmarried female will have the choice again whether they get married.

Project 2025 come on down maga stupids.

Breeding homes are already being built in Ok, MO, Al, AR, Louisiana, MI, and Idaho. Idaho is putting them up super fast.

It’s definitely why project 2025 is making this last gasp. They see it.

I’m not totally convinced they will work though. How exactly did handmaid‘s Tale end? Or does it have one more season lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Women don’t need men to survive like they did in the past. We have our own money, our own homes, and our own children. Who needs a man anymore?

Women who want a loving companion and a family for their children.

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Anonymous wrote:People are simply less interested in having children. They see what’s going on with climate change, they worry about the environment, they worry about having any type of retirement. It’s harder to buy a house.

It’s just less attractive to have kids. If you don’t want kids, marriage, all of a sudden becomes a lot less attractive. I agree that for raising kids marriage, assuming it’s a decent one, not to an addict or an abuser or a complete loser, is still probably the ideal. But if you’re less interested in kids, you’re going to be less interested in marriage.

If a woman is not religious, doesn't want to have kids, and isn't looking for some financial gain, then what does marriage offer her? The risks are too significant, and the benefits too small. You can have loving companionship without the mess of a marriage.

[Anonymous]

Overall marriage and children are indeed a bad deal for majority of women.