The pandemic effect on voters

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yes, I am one of those people. I was your average suburban mom with liberal/progressive views. I was frustrated and a friend suggested that I listen to Ben Shapiro's podcast. He was measured and informative in a way that made me realize that most of the media that I was consuming was basically manipulative junk. We moved from a DC suburb to a red state. Okay! I await your hateful comments!


Wow.

I guess some people struggled mentally more with the pandemic than others.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, I am one of those people. I was your average suburban mom with liberal/progressive views. I was frustrated and a friend suggested that I listen to Ben Shapiro's podcast. He was measured and informative in a way that made me realize that most of the media that I was consuming was basically manipulative junk. We moved from a DC suburb to a red state. Okay! I await your hateful comments!


NP. I didn’t move, but my experience with the pandemic and all that went with it has made me realize how much I despise progressives. And I probably would have considered myself one pre-pandemic.

I’ve also become firmly opposed to public sector unions. They cannot be trusted. Still a big supporter of private unions though.


Sincere question - why do you support private unions and oppose public ones?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hindsight is 20/20.


Oh come on. Every single person with half a brain could see this train wreck coming as soon as the shutdowns started. We were all prepared to do 2 weeks. After that time it was clear that Covid wasn’t an indiscriminate killer - it targeted the old/infirm and obese/unhealthy. We should never have shut down our entire society once we knew who the virus was affecting.


I say this as someone who was fortunate to live in a district whose kids had an option to return to school FT in the fall of 2020. There were VERY strict masking, social distancing (both space and keeping middle school kids in the same class all day to limit contacts), testing, and quarantining procedures to try to prevent spread. But respectfully, it WASNT entirely clear that people not in those groups were at less risk initially. There were lots of stories of relatively young or middle age "healthy" people getting very sick and some dying. Also, even as that became more clear, there were concerns about teachers with underlying health issues and kids exposing older and less healthy family members. The school situation was horrible for kids; the other option was seen as potentially devastating to other groups of people. I don't believe that this was clear cut at the time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Another factor was crushing the health system. I don’t think it could have handled all the illness and death that would have happened without the restrictions.


+1
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:All you folk angry at the libs and dems for this should go back and revisit your thinking. This all happened during the Trump administration. Trump. Not Biden, not Harris, not Clinton or Obama. Trump.

Moreover, the specific decisions were made by local, not federal, authorities. And somehow, I bet that the majority of you supported those decisions and now just want someone to b***h at.

And to those mad at the teacher's unions? That union is for the protection of the union members, not your kids. And no, your precious croth-goblins do not trump the right of adult teachers to be in what they consider a safe environment.


It's true that a lot of the damage was done a) during Trump admin; and b) by state and local officials. However, the Democrats were much more enthusiastic about the destructive Covid protocols.


Covid was their coming out party, we got to see who they really were. They should never be entrusted with an ounce of power again. The problem is the Republican party shouldn't be either. Oh the joys of a two party system where you just have to be slightly less worse than the worst people in the world.
Anonymous
Massachusetts has a strong teachers union and schools were back in session fall of 2020. Virginia did not have any real union to speak of, and many districts were closed most of that school year. Not sure unions are to blame.
Anonymous
I am so sick of people, in particular women, blaming Covid for all their problems. Life throws curve balls and adults and should be adept at challenges.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think pandemic response whiners like you are annoying. Nobody knew anything about the disease, it had all kinds of weird symptoms, and dying of it was only one of many problems. Focusing on death stats alone is idiotic.

People became dumber due to brain damage, some people suffered vascular and heart issues, as well as other organ damage. Many have long covid symptoms. It has affected all ages.

The response was blunt and broad because it kind of had to be. It was an unknown disease.


I don't agree. They were opening up international travel while my daughter was wearing a mask in kindergarten. That totally sucks. They were spending money like there was no tomorrow, my toddler at the time is going to have to do something about that.

I find it frustrating going out, and oh by the way all the rich elitist progressives were paying for private lessons and enjoying swim teams and what not while the pools were closed and unavailable to the public.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think pandemic response whiners like you are annoying. Nobody knew anything about the disease, it had all kinds of weird symptoms, and dying of it was only one of many problems. Focusing on death stats alone is idiotic.

People became dumber due to brain damage, some people suffered vascular and heart issues, as well as other organ damage. Many have long covid symptoms. It has affected all ages.

The response was blunt and broad because it kind of had to be. It was an unknown disease.


I don't agree. They were opening up international travel while my daughter was wearing a mask in kindergarten. That totally sucks. They were spending money like there was no tomorrow, my toddler at the time is going to have to do something about that.

I find it frustrating going out, and oh by the way all the rich elitist progressives were paying for private lessons and enjoying swim teams and what not while the pools were closed and unavailable to the public.


So? Obviously, the wealthy can afford private schools. If your precious little snowflake has life long problems from wearing a mask in kindergarten then that is on you. Ridiculous. Babies should not have babies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think pandemic response whiners like you are annoying. Nobody knew anything about the disease, it had all kinds of weird symptoms, and dying of it was only one of many problems. Focusing on death stats alone is idiotic.

People became dumber due to brain damage, some people suffered vascular and heart issues, as well as other organ damage. Many have long covid symptoms. It has affected all ages.

The response was blunt and broad because it kind of had to be. It was an unknown disease.


I don't agree. They were opening up international travel while my daughter was wearing a mask in kindergarten. That totally sucks. They were spending money like there was no tomorrow, my toddler at the time is going to have to do something about that.

I find it frustrating going out, and oh by the way all the rich elitist progressives were paying for private lessons and enjoying swim teams and what not while the pools were closed and unavailable to the public.


So? Obviously, the wealthy can afford private schools. If your precious little snowflake has life long problems from wearing a mask in kindergarten then that is on you. Ridiculous. Babies should not have babies.


I'm glad you aren't a parent.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think pandemic response whiners like you are annoying. Nobody knew anything about the disease, it had all kinds of weird symptoms, and dying of it was only one of many problems. Focusing on death stats alone is idiotic.

People became dumber due to brain damage, some people suffered vascular and heart issues, as well as other organ damage. Many have long covid symptoms. It has affected all ages.

The response was blunt and broad because it kind of had to be. It was an unknown disease.


I don't agree. They were opening up international travel while my daughter was wearing a mask in kindergarten. That totally sucks. They were spending money like there was no tomorrow, my toddler at the time is going to have to do something about that.

I find it frustrating going out, and oh by the way all the rich elitist progressives were paying for private lessons and enjoying swim teams and what not while the pools were closed and unavailable to the public.


So? Obviously, the wealthy can afford private schools. If your precious little snowflake has life long problems from wearing a mask in kindergarten then that is on you. Ridiculous. Babies should not have babies.


This may shock you, but young children need to see faces to gauge emotion and mirror it. The masking non-sense may lead to a generation of kids who just don't care about emotions. Hopefully you can work though the implications.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All you folk angry at the libs and dems for this should go back and revisit your thinking. This all happened during the Trump administration. Trump. Not Biden, not Harris, not Clinton or Obama. Trump.

Moreover, the specific decisions were made by local, not federal, authorities. And somehow, I bet that the majority of you supported those decisions and now just want someone to b***h at.

And to those mad at the teacher's unions? That union is for the protection of the union members, not your kids. And no, your precious croth-goblins do not trump the right of adult teachers to be in what they consider a safe environment.


It's true that a lot of the damage was done a) during Trump admin; and b) by state and local officials. However, the Democrats were much more enthusiastic about the destructive Covid protocols.


So the real issue is…enthusiasm?
Anonymous
I agree that Covid was brutally hard on women with young children -- because men still do not contribute equally in the household and women bore the brunt of jugging work and childcare. I am still angry at my husband and male boss for how I had to manage.

But I'm also a private school employee who remembers the Head trying to pressure teachers into returning (no exceptions) in August 2020 -- and boy did he have to step back because everyone began threatening to quit en masse.

We forget how scary it was pre-vaccine. Iff voters want to indulge in revisionist history and blame anyone, they can look in the mirror and ask whether they would have taken care of the strangers' young children with runny noses and no masks.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, I am one of those people. I was your average suburban mom with liberal/progressive views. I was frustrated and a friend suggested that I listen to Ben Shapiro's podcast. He was measured and informative in a way that made me realize that most of the media that I was consuming was basically manipulative junk. We moved from a DC suburb to a red state. Okay! I await your hateful comments!


NP. I didn’t move, but my experience with the pandemic and all that went with it has made me realize how much I despise progressives. And I probably would have considered myself one pre-pandemic.

I’ve also become firmly opposed to public sector unions. They cannot be trusted. Still a big supporter of private unions though.

NP. All of this. The pandemic and all I suffered at the hands of batshit "progressive" policies turned me against progressives and their enablers, the Democrats. I'm still angry to this day and I hate Randi Weingarten with all of my heart.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think pandemic response whiners like you are annoying. Nobody knew anything about the disease, it had all kinds of weird symptoms, and dying of it was only one of many problems. Focusing on death stats alone is idiotic.

People became dumber due to brain damage, some people suffered vascular and heart issues, as well as other organ damage. Many have long covid symptoms. It has affected all ages.

The response was blunt and broad because it kind of had to be. It was an unknown disease.


I don't agree. They were opening up international travel while my daughter was wearing a mask in kindergarten. That totally sucks. They were spending money like there was no tomorrow, my toddler at the time is going to have to do something about that.

I find it frustrating going out, and oh by the way all the rich elitist progressives were paying for private lessons and enjoying swim teams and what not while the pools were closed and unavailable to the public.


So? Obviously, the wealthy can afford private schools. If your precious little snowflake has life long problems from wearing a mask in kindergarten then that is on you. Ridiculous. Babies should not have babies.

Nasty regressives like you make this Trump administration worth it for how he's dismantling every edifice you've built.
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