Polestar's 'Trade In Your Tesla' $20,000 Deal Is Already A Hit

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Anonymous wrote:Polestar is a Chinese company. In case anyone feels strongly about US competitiveness.

I believe in free markets. That means getting the best price, no matter where a product is manufactured. That’s what capitalism is all about.

What if the best price doesn't factor in externalities like environmental damage, labor rights violations, and social unrest?

Unregulated capitalism isn't so great at handling those issues.

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Anonymous wrote:I test drove a few EVs and went with a Chevy. I absolutely hate the giant screen that Teslas have, I think it's much less safe than buttons you can feel to change things in the car.

all cars are moving towards the large screen and no buttons, it makes more sense and if you are under 40 you really want to have a touchscreen/phone like experience. Wanting buttons is like complaining about missing hore manure when we moved from horses to cars.

Ha, no. If you follow car trends, there is now a reversion back to include physical buttons for at least stereo and climate controls. Two reasons: 1. consumer demand and 2. safety-muscle memory for button placement and use allows control without taking eyes off the road.

Sometimes physical controls are the best tool for the job.

Oh b00mer panic, not button only a touchscreen give me a flip phone

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This has nothing to do with boomer anything. It has to do with being a human being and the fact that humans use their eyes to coordinate use of touch screens.

Lots of studies documenting this now, and it applies to all ages.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else see the irony of EV buyers trading in a newish car for political reasons? Talk about bad for the environment!

It was never about the environment. Everyone already knew that the most environmentally sensible thing is to maintain the car you already own indefinitely. Vehicle churn is just posing.

This. My twenty year old Toyota that I plan to keep driving until it doesn't anymore is good for the environment.

I'm fine with people who have more money than sense trading in their swasticars.

I mean .. clearly Musk doesn't care about the environment either given he supports Trump.

The first EVs were bought by people interested in saving gas. IMO Tesla became a status symbol.

A strange status symbol considering they are basically stripped down Toyota Corollas except the Corolla is nicer.

Agree, we love our Rivian because it actually feels like a luxury vehicle. Seems like a lot of Tesla competitors have figured out how to do the same.

Have a Rivian and had a Tesla. It’s amazing what it’s like to drive a car that isn’t just a tin can with an iPad attached to it. Got rid of the Tesla for a Polestar 3, which actually is a quick, solid vehicle. Zero regrets. Found it superior to the BMW I5. Not even in the same league as Tesla.

Back when they first started, Teslas were unique - they created a new market for EVs that didn’t exist before and made them mainstream. They put together a charging network that nobody else can touch in both number of locations and reliability. They deserve credit for that.

But today, they are a cheap electric car and people like them because they either have never driven any other electric car or they have joined the cult of Elon. Or both. You have options today. Use them.

I have the Volvo and prefer the Tesla but you sound bias. Dont worry tarrifs will even the playing field and you can pay more for the Volvo or bmw.

lol you are biased. No one prefers the Tesla.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else see the irony of EV buyers trading in a newish car for political reasons? Talk about bad for the environment!

It was never about the environment. Everyone already knew that the most environmentally sensible thing is to maintain the car you already own indefinitely. Vehicle churn is just posing.

This. My twenty year old Toyota that I plan to keep driving until it doesn't anymore is good for the environment.

I'm fine with people who have more money than sense trading in their swasticars.

I mean .. clearly Musk doesn't care about the environment either given he supports Trump.

The first EVs were bought by people interested in saving gas. IMO Tesla became a status symbol.

Teslas are as common as Hondas and Toyotas right now.

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Anonymous wrote:We have a Polestar 2, FWIW. It's awesome - best car I've ever owned! Yes, made in China, but feels like a Volvo in terms of quality. We've had it for almost three years with no problems at all.

Hi there. I have a Volvo EV. I love how it drives, however it has some very annoying electrical snafus on a regular basis. One is "Backup camera is unavailable." Another is Spotify just won't connect for like 5 minutes. Another is that when I go into reverse my mirrors don't tilt downward, which is a setting I have activated. These things annoy me just enough that I may consider not getting another Volvo EV. Does the Polestar have these issues? Or is their programming/electrical a different system entirely than Volvo?

I have a regular Volvo, 2023 xc60. I also have those issues. The infotainment is sluggish. I also have trouble connecting to the Internet and my google maps is often Offline. Holding down the center button or restarting the modem helps.

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Anonymous wrote:This has nothing to do with boomer anything. It has to do with being a human being and the fact that humans use their eyes to coordinate use of touch screens.

Lots of studies documenting this now, and it applies to all ages.

I mean I'm someone who likes buttons and I'm a mid millennial, not a boomer. One of the features I like about my car are these buttons on my steering wheel that are positioned so I can control the music while still holding the steering wheel. Much safer than looking at a screen.

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Anonymous wrote:Teslas’ fork in the road. Good riddance to the pinto of our times.

Tesla makes its money with emissions credits. 3 billion this year straight to the bottom line. Wonder if that will be killed when the EV tax credit and Trump shuts down the new EV plants in Georgia and South Carolina?

Presumably they have to sell cars to get the emissions credits though

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else see the irony of EV buyers trading in a newish car for political reasons? Talk about bad for the environment!

It was never about the environment. Everyone already knew that the most environmentally sensible thing is to maintain the car you already own indefinitely. Vehicle churn is just posing.

And when that care dies?

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else see the irony of EV buyers trading in a newish car for political reasons? Talk about bad for the environment!

It was never about the environment. Everyone already knew that the most environmentally sensible thing is to maintain the car you already own indefinitely. Vehicle churn is just posing.

This. My twenty year old Toyota that I plan to keep driving until it doesn't anymore is good for the environment.

I'm fine with people who have more money than sense trading in their swasticars.

I mean .. clearly Musk doesn't care about the environment either given he supports Trump.

The first EVs were bought by people interested in saving gas. IMO Tesla became a status symbol.

Teslas are as common as Hondas and Toyotas right now.

That was exactly the point of the Models 3 and Y!!! They are not luxury cars - they were meant to be more accessible. The S was always the luxury version Tesla.

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Anonymous wrote:This has nothing to do with boomer anything. It has to do with being a human being and the fact that humans use their eyes to coordinate use of touch screens.

Lots of studies documenting this now, and it applies to all ages.

I mean I'm someone who likes buttons and I'm a mid millennial, not a boomer. One of the features I like about my car are these buttons on my steering wheel that are positioned so I can control the music while still holding the steering wheel. Much safer than looking at a screen.

Tesla has these buttons on the wheel as well. I AM a boomer and I love my touchscreen. We've had Teslas since 2014, have two now, and yes we hate Elon. But were not getting rid of our cars because they run great, require next to no service, and it would be a waste to dump them for political reasons. We will drive them until they die!

And if and when they die, we are NOT buying a Chinese car!

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else see the irony of EV buyers trading in a newish car for political reasons? Talk about bad for the environment!

It was never about the environment. Everyone already knew that the most environmentally sensible thing is to maintain the car you already own indefinitely. Vehicle churn is just posing.

This. My twenty year old Toyota that I plan to keep driving until it doesn't anymore is good for the environment.

I'm fine with people who have more money than sense trading in their swasticars.

I mean .. clearly Musk doesn't care about the environment either given he supports Trump.

The first EVs were bought by people interested in saving gas. IMO Tesla became a status symbol.

Maybe like 12 years ago, but they've been basic for the past decade or so. Only people who are terrible drivers "drive" them now.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else see the irony of EV buyers trading in a newish car for political reasons? Talk about bad for the environment!

It was never about the environment. Everyone already knew that the most environmentally sensible thing is to maintain the car you already own indefinitely. Vehicle churn is just posing.

This. My twenty year old Toyota that I plan to keep driving until it doesn't anymore is good for the environment.

I'm fine with people who have more money than sense trading in their swasticars.

I mean .. clearly Musk doesn't care about the environment either given he supports Trump.

The first EVs were bought by people interested in saving gas. IMO Tesla became a status symbol.

Maybe like 12 years ago, but they've been basic for the past decade or so. Only people who are terrible drivers "drive" them now.

Tesla drivers are the new Prius drivers. They’re the worst.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else see the irony of EV buyers trading in a newish car for political reasons? Talk about bad for the environment!

It was never about the environment. Everyone already knew that the most environmentally sensible thing is to maintain the car you already own indefinitely. Vehicle churn is just posing.

This. My twenty year old Toyota that I plan to keep driving until it doesn't anymore is good for the environment.

I'm fine with people who have more money than sense trading in their swasticars.

I mean .. clearly Musk doesn't care about the environment either given he supports Trump.

The first EVs were bought by people interested in saving gas. IMO Tesla became a status symbol.

A strange status symbol considering they are basically stripped down Toyota Corollas except the Corolla is nicer.

Agree, we love our Rivian because it actually feels like a luxury vehicle. Seems like a lot of Tesla competitors have figured out how to do the same.

Have a Rivian and had a Tesla. It’s amazing what it’s like to drive a car that isn’t just a tin can with an iPad attached to it. Got rid of the Tesla for a Polestar 3, which actually is a quick, solid vehicle. Zero regrets. Found it superior to the BMW I5. Not even in the same league as Tesla.

Back when they first started, Teslas were unique - they created a new market for EVs that didn’t exist before and made them mainstream. They put together a charging network that nobody else can touch in both number of locations and reliability. They deserve credit for that.

But today, they are a cheap electric car and people like them because they either have never driven any other electric car or they have joined the cult of Elon. Or both. You have options today. Use them.

I have the Volvo and prefer the Tesla but you sound bias. Dont worry tarrifs will even the playing field and you can pay more for the Volvo or bmw.

lol you are biased. No one prefers the Tesla.

That person can't even spell or use punctuation correctly. Don't even engage.

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This has nothing to do with boomer anything. It has to do with being a human being and the fact that humans use their eyes to coordinate use of touch screens.

Lots of studies documenting this now, and it applies to all ages.

You know you can use voice commands on the Tesla, right? You push the BUTTON on the right side of the steering wheel and say something like "play x song or x station or x podcast" or "turn on the windshield wipers to x level", etc. Try it sometime.