Will the Supreme Court stop Trump from Firing the Ethics Watchdog?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have hope in Roberts and Barrett to do the right thing.

Hahahahahahahaha hahahahaha. Oh good lord.

If they don’t then they essentially loose all power themselves. Surely that might be a factor??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just fyi, that isn’t the ethics watchdog. That would be the head of the Office of Government Ethics (who was also fired but that position bas no statutory removal protections against firing). This one is the head of the Office of Special Counsel, which investigates federal employee whistleblower retaliation complaints and complaints of transgressions of other hiring laws, ie, nepotism, political bias, non-merit based hiring.

OSC can bring cases before MSPB. Trump also fired one of the three MSPB members who’s also suing but is a week or so behind in terms of the lifecycle of the case.

He fired the MSBP chair, she's the one going to court over it. And so far, a judge has said the chair has to stay put in the job. The chair is going to fight to show that there was zero cause for firing her, and it's clear in the law establishing the MSPB that the chair can be fired only for specific reasons which Trump didn't use.

MSPB. OSC. OGE. The inspectors general. Yep, the regime is clearing out the bodies tasked with overseeing ethics, whistleblowing, employment protections. This is all so clearly a move to gut oversight of every type, at every level. Congress set up these offices; if only Congress weren't a gaggle of bootlicking Republicans and hamstrung Democrats, Congress migiht be able to DO something. We desperately need to flip the Senate in the April 1 special elections, which replace senators who have ascended to the cabinet.

Trump will win these cases at the Supreme Court. These employees are gone. They do not have more power than the President.

[Anonymous]

Liberals will cry when the Supreme Court rules that the President can fire executive officers at will. Just like they cried when the Supreme Court held that a President cannot be charged for carrying out his official job functions outlined in the constitution. Liberals do not respect the constitution and seek to make the federal bureaucracy more powerful than the President.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Liberals will cry when the Supreme Court rules that the President can fire executive officers at will. Just like they cried when the Supreme Court held that a President cannot be charged for carrying out his official job functions outlined in the constitution. Liberals do not respect the constitution and seek to make the federal bureaucracy more powerful than the President.

What the Supreme Court said was that the president could be charged for carrying out illegal functions that are not part of his job while president.

Such as insurrection.

I don't know if liberals or conservatives respect the constitution or not - but Republicans definitely do not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tankman is still dead, and democracy hasn't come to China

I was thinking the same thing reading that post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If judges feel they can control the executive branch, then perhaps Trump should declare authority over the judicial branch and say that certain judges are fired.

He doesn't have that authority, just like he didn't have the authority to fire her. Stop trying to make a President a King.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just fyi, that isn’t the ethics watchdog. That would be the head of the Office of Government Ethics (who was also fired but that position bas no statutory removal protections against firing). This one is the head of the Office of Special Counsel, which investigates federal employee whistleblower retaliation complaints and complaints of transgressions of other hiring laws, ie, nepotism, political bias, non-merit based hiring.

OSC can bring cases before MSPB. Trump also fired one of the three MSPB members who’s also suing but is a week or so behind in terms of the lifecycle of the case.

He fired the MSBP chair, she's the one going to court over it. And so far, a judge has said the chair has to stay put in the job. The chair is going to fight to show that there was zero cause for firing her, and it's clear in the law establishing the MSPB that the chair can be fired only for specific reasons which Trump didn't use.

MSPB. OSC. OGE. The inspectors general. Yep, the regime is clearing out the bodies tasked with overseeing ethics, whistleblowing, employment protections. This is all so clearly a move to gut oversight of every type, at every level. Congress set up these offices; if only Congress weren't a gaggle of bootlicking Republicans and hamstrung Democrats, Congress migiht be able to DO something. We desperately need to flip the Senate in the April 1 special elections, which replace senators who have ascended to the cabinet.

Trump will win these cases at the Supreme Court. These employees are gone. They do not have more power than the President.

We are talking about rights, not power. In our country, people have rights.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have hope in Roberts and Barrett to do the right thing.

Hahahahahahahaha hahahahaha. Oh good lord.

If they don’t then they essentially loose all power themselves. Surely that might be a factor??

You would think. But, Congress has essentially castrated itself. I guess some people like subservience over power.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have hope in Roberts and Barrett to do the right thing.

Hahahahahahahaha hahahahaha. Oh good lord.

If they don’t then they essentially loose all power themselves. Surely that might be a factor??

You would think. But, Congress has essentially castrated itself. I guess some people like subservience over power.

But....Gorsuch, Barrett, Roberts, Kagan, Brown, and Sotomayor are at least qualified, egotistical, and actual jurists. They may border on idealogues, but not to the level of ALito, Thomas, and Kavanaugh. And none of them were bought by Trump like Kavanaugh, or corrupt like Alito and Thomas.
Compare them to morons in the house like MTg, Boebert, Biggs, blah blah. Idiots everyone.

So maybe?

[Anonymous]

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Friday for now prevented President Donald Trump from firing the head of a watchdog agency in the first legal showdown to reach the justices over the administration’s efforts to dramatically remake the federal government.

In an unusual, tentative move, the court neither granted nor denied an emergency request filed by the Trump administration after lower courts had blocked the effort to fire Hampton Dellinger, who heads the Office of Special Counsel.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-maintains-pause-trump-bid-immediately-fire-watchdog-agen-rcna192643?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma&taid=67b909a13b0b770001415ae4&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just fyi, that isn’t the ethics watchdog. That would be the head of the Office of Government Ethics (who was also fired but that position bas no statutory removal protections against firing). This one is the head of the Office of Special Counsel, which investigates federal employee whistleblower retaliation complaints and complaints of transgressions of other hiring laws, ie, nepotism, political bias, non-merit based hiring.

OSC can bring cases before MSPB. Trump also fired one of the three MSPB members who’s also suing but is a week or so behind in terms of the lifecycle of the case.

He fired the MSBP chair, she's the one going to court over it. And so far, a judge has said the chair has to stay put in the job. The chair is going to fight to show that there was zero cause for firing her, and it's clear in the law establishing the MSPB that the chair can be fired only for specific reasons which Trump didn't use.

MSPB. OSC. OGE. The inspectors general. Yep, the regime is clearing out the bodies tasked with overseeing ethics, whistleblowing, employment protections. This is all so clearly a move to gut oversight of every type, at every level. Congress set up these offices; if only Congress weren't a gaggle of bootlicking Republicans and hamstrung Democrats, Congress migiht be able to DO something. We desperately need to flip the Senate in the April 1 special elections, which replace senators who have ascended to the cabinet.

And how

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Liberals will cry when the Supreme Court rules that the President can fire executive officers at will. Just like they cried when the Supreme Court held that a President cannot be charged for carrying out his official job functions outlined in the constitution. Liberals do not respect the constitution and seek to make the federal bureaucracy more powerful than the President.

At this point, we are the ones fighting for the Constitution. The GOP is trying to dismantle the federal government and allow Trump to be a dictator/king. Well F U guys. We don't want your king and the Founders sure as hell did not want this.

[Anonymous]

No way SCOTUS will go against Trump. Sadly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Friday for now prevented President Donald Trump from firing the head of a watchdog agency in the first legal showdown to reach the justices over the administration’s efforts to dramatically remake the federal government.

In an unusual, tentative move, the court neither granted nor denied an emergency request filed by the Trump administration after lower courts had blocked the effort to fire Hampton Dellinger, who heads the Office of Special Counsel.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-maintains-pause-trump-bid-immediately-fire-watchdog-agen-rcna192643?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma&taid=67b909a13b0b770001415ae4&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

They weren't ready to rule on the issue. TROs are very temporary and not fully briefed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Friday for now prevented President Donald Trump from firing the head of a watchdog agency in the first legal showdown to reach the justices over the administration’s efforts to dramatically remake the federal government.

In an unusual, tentative move, the court neither granted nor denied an emergency request filed by the Trump administration after lower courts had blocked the effort to fire Hampton Dellinger, who heads the Office of Special Counsel.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-maintains-pause-trump-bid-immediately-fire-watchdog-agen-rcna192643?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma&taid=67b909a13b0b770001415ae4&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

They weren't ready to rule on the issue. TROs are very temporary and not fully briefed.

They didn't want to rule on a significant precedent as part of an emergency motion.