Will the Supreme Court stop Trump from Firing the Ethics Watchdog?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly held that, when a cause is required to remove a public employee, due process is necessary to determine if that cause has been met. Neither Congress nor the President has the power to ignore or waive due process." [U.S. Merit Systems Protection Board, May 2015.]

As if the Supreme Court still follows stare decisis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have hope in Roberts and Barrett to do the right thing.

I don’t

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly held that, when a cause is required to remove a public employee, due process is necessary to determine if that cause has been met. Neither Congress nor the President has the power to ignore or waive due process." [U.S. Merit Systems Protection Board, May 2015.]

Speaking of the Merot Systems Protection Board…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They will probably rule they the congress cannot make a law that prevents the President from firing people

It does seem that all three branches are compromised. I fear that eventually violence will be the only answer.

Absolutely not. Violence is NOT the answer. I agree we seem to be losing our country, but if we resort to violence then we are the ones damaging it. If our country is to remain free, we cannot be a people that employ violence, in doing do we sacrifice the very principles we’d be fighting for and lose all moral authority. Not to mention, from a purely practical side, our government controls the most powerful military the world has ever seen, and Republicans are the party that likes guns.

If our freedom is lost, then personal sacrifice may be required. Think of the impact that Gandhi had with his nonviolent methods, or the civil rights marches of the ‘60s. Even the lone, anonymous, “Tank Man” from Tiananmen Square left an indelible mark on the world in a single moment that China, one of the world’s superpowers remains afraid of more than 30 years later. Hurting others to get your way is cowardly and evil. Are you prepared to put yourself on the line for your beliefs?

Civil rights marches did nothing in the ‘60s. It was nationalizing the state National Guards to force integration at gunpoint.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly held that, when a cause is required to remove a public employee, due process is necessary to determine if that cause has been met. Neither Congress nor the President has the power to ignore or waive due process." [U.S. Merit Systems Protection Board, May 2015.]

Speaking of the Merot Systems Protection Board…

Sweet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly held that, when a cause is required to remove a public employee, due process is necessary to determine if that cause has been met. Neither Congress nor the President has the power to ignore or waive due process." [U.S. Merit Systems Protection Board, May 2015.]

Speaking of the Merot Systems Protection Board…

This is a very important one. Having a quorum on that board will be key in making sure all the other illegally fired feds get due process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly held that, when a cause is required to remove a public employee, due process is necessary to determine if that cause has been met. Neither Congress nor the President has the power to ignore or waive due process." [U.S. Merit Systems Protection Board, May 2015.]

Speaking of the Merot Systems Protection Board…

Insanity. Judges have essentially usurped the power of the President. The President is the head of the executive branch and has the authority to employ or fire inferiors at his will. Any law to the contrary is unconstitutional. Deep state judges are attempting to protect the bureaucracy that sees itself as having more authority than the President.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly held that, when a cause is required to remove a public employee, due process is necessary to determine if that cause has been met. Neither Congress nor the President has the power to ignore or waive due process." [U.S. Merit Systems Protection Board, May 2015.]

Speaking of the Merot Systems Protection Board…

Insanity. Judges have essentially usurped the power of the President. The President is the head of the executive branch and has the authority to employ or fire inferiors at his will. Any law to the contrary is unconstitutional. Deep state judges are attempting to protect the bureaucracy that sees itself as having more authority than the President.

We have three branches, not one. Trump is not king, he cannot do anything he feels like. He can only do the things he can do.

[Anonymous]

If judges feel they can control the executive branch, then perhaps Trump should declare authority over the judicial branch and say that certain judges are fired.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly held that, when a cause is required to remove a public employee, due process is necessary to determine if that cause has been met. Neither Congress nor the President has the power to ignore or waive due process." [U.S. Merit Systems Protection Board, May 2015.]

Speaking of the Merot Systems Protection Board…

Insanity. Judges have essentially usurped the power of the President. The President is the head of the executive branch and has the authority to employ or fire inferiors at his will. Any law to the contrary is unconstitutional. Deep state judges are attempting to protect the bureaucracy that sees itself as having more authority than the President.

We have three branches, not one. Trump is not king, he cannot do anything he feels like. He can only do the things he can do.

+1. Sorry you don’t like the system of checks and balances. Trump is exceeding his authority, not following rules related to ethics and conflicts of interests and taking the USA down the path to authoritarianism. We can only hope that these judges can stop him where they can.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly held that, when a cause is required to remove a public employee, due process is necessary to determine if that cause has been met. Neither Congress nor the President has the power to ignore or waive due process." [U.S. Merit Systems Protection Board, May 2015.]

In the case where they ruled Trump could fire the head of CFPB at any time, Roberts wrote that the independence of independent agencies, like OSC, is contested.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly held that, when a cause is required to remove a public employee, due process is necessary to determine if that cause has been met. Neither Congress nor the President has the power to ignore or waive due process." [U.S. Merit Systems Protection Board, May 2015.]

Speaking of the Merot Systems Protection Board…

Insanity. Judges have essentially usurped the power of the President. The President is the head of the executive branch and has the authority to employ or fire inferiors at his will. Any law to the contrary is unconstitutional. Deep state judges are attempting to protect the bureaucracy that sees itself as having more authority than the President.

I agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly held that, when a cause is required to remove a public employee, due process is necessary to determine if that cause has been met. Neither Congress nor the President has the power to ignore or waive due process." [U.S. Merit Systems Protection Board, May 2015.]

In the case where they ruled Trump could fire the head of CFPB at any time, Roberts wrote that the independence of independent agencies, like OSC, is contested.

No, he wrote that the CFPB was different from the other independent agencies. He noted that the other independent agencies were contested - but that doesn't mean that the Supreme Court will find them unconstitutional.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think there’s any hope in the Supreme Court. They have already proven to be compromised and unethical. I don’t know if there’s are any safeguards left.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly held that, when a cause is required to remove a public employee, due process is necessary to determine if that cause has been met. Neither Congress nor the President has the power to ignore or waive due process." [U.S. Merit Systems Protection Board, May 2015.]

Speaking of the Merot Systems Protection Board…

Insanity. Judges have essentially usurped the power of the President. The President is the head of the executive branch and has the authority to employ or fire inferiors at his will. Any law to the contrary is unconstitutional. Deep state judges are attempting to protect the bureaucracy that sees itself as having more authority than the President.

I agree.

The question is, who are the inferiors and who are not. Quasi judicial agencies are not a part of the executive branch. Here, the president is stepping on toes. This is a separation of powers issue.