Moving to VA from DC for in-state college consideration

[Anonymous]

To OP - no one has said this yet so I'm tossing in a thought. You don't know at this point in middle school if your kids will have the stats and ECs for admission to UVA or W&M. Both have gotten very difficult to get into. Virginia has over 30 institutions of higher learning (including the community colleges for the guaranteed transfer programs). You may find your kids fit better into GMU, JMU, etc., five years from now - DC amd MD don't offer the wealth of opportunities that VA does. And the DC tag program offers only $10k off the price and that's not going to increase even as costs rise. Finally, VA kids get preference for grad school prograns. My VA kid is applying to VA public law schools right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To OP - no one has said this yet so I'm tossing in a thought. You don't know at this point in middle school if your kids will have the stats and ECs for admission to UVA or W&M. Both have gotten very difficult to get into. Virginia has over 30 institutions of higher learning (including the community colleges for the guaranteed transfer programs). You may find your kids fit better into GMU, JMU, etc., five years from now - DC amd MD don't offer the wealth of opportunities that VA does. And the DC tag program offers only $10k off the price and that's not going to increase even as costs rise. Finally, VA kids get preference for grad school prograns. My VA kid is applying to VA public law schools right now.

She probably has a good idea based on how well they're doing currently. Also the family has the means to support any gaps that need filling. I mean in terms of coaching / tutoring if required.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To OP - no one has said this yet so I'm tossing in a thought. You don't know at this point in middle school if your kids will have the stats and ECs for admission to UVA or W&M.

Eh if her kids are in private middle school, she doesn't need to worry about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To OP - no one has said this yet so I'm tossing in a thought. You don't know at this point in middle school if your kids will have the stats and ECs for admission to UVA or W&M.

Eh if her kids are in private middle school, she doesn't need to worry about it.

False. She has no idea now if her kids will have a 4.5 GPA, a 35 ACT or a 1520 SAT, which is the 75th percentile of last fall's class at UVA - and pretty much what you need to compete successfully for a slot from NOVA. Competition for in-state schools is only going to go up as privates approach $100k a year. (USC is now $96k)

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Anonymous wrote:We currently live in DC and have two Middle Schoolers in private Middle School. We want to move in the next few years before the kids are in high school - we currently live in DC far away from the kids school and moving to NW DC would be most convenient. However, we want to consider all options.

Are kids from Northern VA considered in-state for purposes of admission or are they evaluated against others at their DC private school? Asked another way, if they apply to UVA or W&M, is there a better shot of admission if they have a VA address vs a DC address? Or does high school matter more?

I understand there is a financial benefit to being in-state, I'm specifically asking about admissions.

applying to UVA from northern VA is not really an advantage.

UVA and other public universities in Virginia take kids based on geographic regions. Accordingly, it’s like applying to Harvard from Montana— applying to UVA from Fairfax is MUCH more difficult than applying from Roanoke. Also, all OOS are not created equal. UVA doesn’t want to fill its OOS portion with DC/MD kids only, meaning it’s MORE competitive.

No. DeanJ has repeatedly said there is no regional quota or cap for kids from Northern Virginia.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To OP - no one has said this yet so I'm tossing in a thought. You don't know at this point in middle school if your kids will have the stats and ECs for admission to UVA or W&M.

Eh if her kids are in private middle school, she doesn't need to worry about it.

False. She has no idea now if her kids will have a 4.5 GPA, a 35 ACT or a 1520 SAT, which is the 75th percentile of last fall's class at UVA - and pretty much what you need to compete successfully for a slot from NOVA. Competition for in-state schools is only going to go up as privates approach $100k a year. (USC is now $96k)

Private middle school = two smart parents with money = those kids aren't going to have a problem getting into UVA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because they stated that data was for William and Mary.

According to SCHEV data, the OOS acceptance rate is lower for W&M than the in-state acceptance rate.

https://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B8_Report_new.asp

[Anonymous]

Not from DMV but I wish we lived in Virginia because we really liked William and Mary! We wish our state had a similar public LAC-type school.

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Anonymous wrote:We currently live in DC and have two Middle Schoolers in private Middle School. We want to move in the next few years before the kids are in high school - we currently live in DC far away from the kids school and moving to NW DC would be most convenient. However, we want to consider all options.

Are kids from Northern VA considered in-state for purposes of admission or are they evaluated against others at their DC private school? Asked another way, if they apply to UVA or W&M, is there a better shot of admission if they have a VA address vs a DC address? Or does high school matter more?

I understand there is a financial benefit to being in-state, I'm specifically asking about admissions.

applying to UVA from northern VA is not really an advantage.

UVA and other public universities in Virginia take kids based on geographic regions. Accordingly, it’s like applying to Harvard from Montana— applying to UVA from Fairfax is MUCH more difficult than applying from Roanoke. Also, all OOS are not created equal. UVA doesn’t want to fill its OOS portion with DC/MD kids only, meaning it’s MORE competitive.

No. DeanJ has repeatedly said there is no regional quota or cap for kids from Northern Virginia.

She says that but I see in our school Naviance that every year they accept about 50 students at my kids' HS. Regardless of the number of applications. I don't have a problem with that, 50 from any one school seems very reasonable. But it's disingenuous to say there's no quota.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To OP - no one has said this yet so I'm tossing in a thought. You don't know at this point in middle school if your kids will have the stats and ECs for admission to UVA or W&M.

Eh if her kids are in private middle school, she doesn't need to worry about it.

False. She has no idea now if her kids will have a 4.5 GPA, a 35 ACT or a 1520 SAT, which is the 75th percentile of last fall's class at UVA - and pretty much what you need to compete successfully for a slot from NOVA. Competition for in-state schools is only going to go up as privates approach $100k a year. (USC is now $96k)

Private middle school = two smart parents with money = those kids aren't going to have a problem getting into UVA.

DP. This is not even remotely true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To OP - no one has said this yet so I'm tossing in a thought. You don't know at this point in middle school if your kids will have the stats and ECs for admission to UVA or W&M.

Eh if her kids are in private middle school, she doesn't need to worry about it.

False. She has no idea now if her kids will have a 4.5 GPA, a 35 ACT or a 1520 SAT, which is the 75th percentile of last fall's class at UVA - and pretty much what you need to compete successfully for a slot from NOVA. Competition for in-state schools is only going to go up as privates approach $100k a year. (USC is now $96k)

Private middle school = two smart parents with money = those kids aren't going to have a problem getting into UVA.

DP. This is not even remotely true.

+100

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Anonymous wrote:We currently live in DC and have two Middle Schoolers in private Middle School. We want to move in the next few years before the kids are in high school - we currently live in DC far away from the kids school and moving to NW DC would be most convenient. However, we want to consider all options.

Are kids from Northern VA considered in-state for purposes of admission or are they evaluated against others at their DC private school? Asked another way, if they apply to UVA or W&M, is there a better shot of admission if they have a VA address vs a DC address? Or does high school matter more?

I understand there is a financial benefit to being in-state, I'm specifically asking about admissions.

applying to UVA from northern VA is not really an advantage.

UVA and other public universities in Virginia take kids based on geographic regions. Accordingly, it’s like applying to Harvard from Montana— applying to UVA from Fairfax is MUCH more difficult than applying from Roanoke. Also, all OOS are not created equal. UVA doesn’t want to fill its OOS portion with DC/MD kids only, meaning it’s MORE competitive.

No. DeanJ has repeatedly said there is no regional quota or cap for kids from Northern Virginia.

You actually believe everything she says? She's a marketing person! That's what college AOs are now - they will say anything to get your kid to apply so they can be rejected which drives down the acceptance and selectivity percentages. If you had bothered to do some research on thus (SCHEV) you would know that Fairfax County sends some 600 kids a year to UVA alone whereas some of the poorer counties to the south and west of the state send zero. Langley receives almost the exact same no. of acceptances every year as does TJ. She maynot want to call it "quotas" but it happens.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We currently live in DC and have two Middle Schoolers in private Middle School. We want to move in the next few years before the kids are in high school - we currently live in DC far away from the kids school and moving to NW DC would be most convenient. However, we want to consider all options.

Are kids from Northern VA considered in-state for purposes of admission or are they evaluated against others at their DC private school? Asked another way, if they apply to UVA or W&M, is there a better shot of admission if they have a VA address vs a DC address? Or does high school matter more?

I understand there is a financial benefit to being in-state, I'm specifically asking about admissions.

applying to UVA from northern VA is not really an advantage.

UVA and other public universities in Virginia take kids based on geographic regions. Accordingly, it’s like applying to Harvard from Montana— applying to UVA from Fairfax is MUCH more difficult than applying from Roanoke. Also, all OOS are not created equal. UVA doesn’t want to fill its OOS portion with DC/MD kids only, meaning it’s MORE competitive.

No. DeanJ has repeatedly said there is no regional quota or cap for kids from Northern Virginia.

She says that but I see in our school Naviance that every year they accept about 50 students at my kids' HS. Regardless of the number of applications. I don't have a problem with that, 50 from any one school seems very reasonable. But it's disingenuous to say there's no quota.

+1. It is disingenuous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not from DMV but I wish we lived in Virginia because we really liked William and Mary! We wish our state had a similar public LAC-type school.

It probably does. Most states do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We currently live in DC and have two Middle Schoolers in private Middle School. We want to move in the next few years before the kids are in high school - we currently live in DC far away from the kids school and moving to NW DC would be most convenient. However, we want to consider all options.

Are kids from Northern VA considered in-state for purposes of admission or are they evaluated against others at their DC private school? Asked another way, if they apply to UVA or W&M, is there a better shot of admission if they have a VA address vs a DC address? Or does high school matter more?

I understand there is a financial benefit to being in-state, I'm specifically asking about admissions.

applying to UVA from northern VA is not really an advantage.

Sure it is. Not within VA, but in-state still has an advantage over OOS.