Congrats to Walt Whitman HS!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kudos to the Whitman Principal, Teachers and Staff for having the highest SAT score average within MCPS! Same goes to Churchill, Poolesville and Wootton who all averaged over 1200! The next highest HS average wasn't even close - 100 points lower on average.

# R M T
1 Walt Whitman HS 344 652 648 1301
2 Winston Churchill HS 426 645 647 1292
3 Poolesville HS 303 649 642 1291
4 Thomas S. Wootton HS 405 637 647 1284

College Readiness Data (ZIP 31KB)
https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/DataDownloads/FileDownload/520

Great job!

I'd like to see it broken down by either SES or racial cohort again like they did a few years ago. I think that gives us a much better idea of the schools quality. This just tells us which schools have the lowest FARMs rate.

We already have a good indicator of school quality, the FARMs rate.

We all know a great kids can do ok in any school but for avg kids which are the vast majority of them, environment matters.

Farms rate isn’t a good indicator of school quality. It is however a good indicator of student quality and by default environment. At best, bad students suck up time and resources away from the collective and at worse their ideal hands end working against the system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kudos to the Whitman Principal, Teachers and Staff for having the highest SAT score average within MCPS! Same goes to Churchill, Poolesville and Wootton who all averaged over 1200! The next highest HS average wasn't even close - 100 points lower on average.

# R M T
1 Walt Whitman HS 344 652 648 1301
2 Winston Churchill HS 426 645 647 1292
3 Poolesville HS 303 649 642 1291
4 Thomas S. Wootton HS 405 637 647 1284

College Readiness Data (ZIP 31KB)
https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/DataDownloads/FileDownload/520

Great job!

I'd like to see it broken down by either SES or racial cohort again like they did a few years ago. I think that gives us a much better idea of the schools quality. This just tells us which schools have the lowest FARMs rate.

We already have a good indicator of school quality, the FARMs rate.

We all know a great kids can do ok in any school but for avg kids which are the vast majority of them, environment matters.

Farms rate isn’t a good indicator of school quality. It is however a good indicator of student quality and by default environment. At best, bad students suck up time and resources away from the collective and at worse their ideal hands end working against the system.

School quality is student quality. Student quality is home quality.

The exception is for very close knit semi-isolated immigrant communities like Chinatown NYC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kudos to the Whitman Principal, Teachers and Staff for having the highest SAT score average within MCPS! Same goes to Churchill, Poolesville and Wootton who all averaged over 1200! The next highest HS average wasn't even close - 100 points lower on average.

# R M T
1 Walt Whitman HS 344 652 648 1301
2 Winston Churchill HS 426 645 647 1292
3 Poolesville HS 303 649 642 1291
4 Thomas S. Wootton HS 405 637 647 1284

College Readiness Data (ZIP 31KB)
https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/DataDownloads/FileDownload/520

Great job!

I'd like to see it broken down by either SES or racial cohort again like they did a few years ago. I think that gives us a much better idea of the schools quality. This just tells us which schools have the lowest FARMs rate.

They did this a few years ago, but at least for my kid's cohort, Blair did a little better than any W. They really need to provide more nuanced and granular data to make this meaningful.

They pick a few of the best magnet kids and they only did slightly better. Of course they did they are bussed to a needy school specifically for their academic ability to prop it up. The part you are glossing over is 99% of the school isn’t that cohort and even with them in the pool, the school’s scores are near the bottom of the county. Whitman has the best kids pulled out (and sent to Blair) and still has the best entire school avg out of the system. No slicing the demographics into tiny slivers needed to fit a narrative.

Blair is about 20% magnet (SMCS and CAP), not 1% magent.

A lot of the best kids in western MoCo choose to stay at home school, or are not chosen for Blair due to the arbitratiness of which borderline kids make the cut. But they are spread out across the other schools.

Blair has only about 2x as many top tier academic achieving a students vs other western schools, despite pulling top tier kids from every school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Whitman gets the same overall results of an inner city Los Angeles high school in terms of exits - 30% or fewer to a 4 yr college and the rest to CC or military or employment.

Really?! That is surprising!

Because it's an absurd lie.

I can't find Whitman's report, but nearby similar Wootton's report claims a whopping 94% matriculation rate to 4-yr college.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/r-w/woottonhs/uploadedfiles/counseling/school_profile__wootton_high_2017-2018.pdf

Now this disputes the PP's poster's claim effectively. Although it is 2017-2018 data. But still, even with the post-pandemic slide, I imagine some 80%+ of the student body matriculated to a 4-year college.

Unless you think the pandemic slide was very regional, it doesn't affect college matriculation. Even if everyone going to college is dumber, they still get in to college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kudos to the Whitman Principal, Teachers and Staff for having the highest SAT score average within MCPS! Same goes to Churchill, Poolesville and Wootton who all averaged over 1200! The next highest HS average wasn't even close - 100 points lower on average.

# R M T
1 Walt Whitman HS 344 652 648 1301
2 Winston Churchill HS 426 645 647 1292
3 Poolesville HS 303 649 642 1291
4 Thomas S. Wootton HS 405 637 647 1284

College Readiness Data (ZIP 31KB)
https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/DataDownloads/FileDownload/520

Great job!

I challenge you to match farms rate and test score. In MCPS low farms = high test score in comparison to higher farms schools. I would be much more impressed with a high farms school getting a high test score.

That would require MCPS being a good school district, which it isn’t. My kids go to Wootton and the only difference is more kids work harder on their own. And a lot isn’t money based for say tutors and prep. A lot of families move here for kids to be pushed by other kids. Huge Asian population that takes education very seriously. But most aren’t rich.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kudos to the Whitman Principal, Teachers and Staff for having the highest SAT score average within MCPS! Same goes to Churchill, Poolesville and Wootton who all averaged over 1200! The next highest HS average wasn't even close - 100 points lower on average.

# R M T
1 Walt Whitman HS 344 652 648 1301
2 Winston Churchill HS 426 645 647 1292
3 Poolesville HS 303 649 642 1291
4 Thomas S. Wootton HS 405 637 647 1284

College Readiness Data (ZIP 31KB)
https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/DataDownloads/FileDownload/520

Great job!

I'd like to see it broken down by either SES or racial cohort again like they did a few years ago. I think that gives us a much better idea of the schools quality. This just tells us which schools have the lowest FARMs rate.

They did this a few years ago, but at least for my kid's cohort, Blair did a little better than any W. They really need to provide more nuanced and granular data to make this meaningful.

They pick a few of the best magnet kids and they only did slightly better. Of course they did they are bussed to a needy school specifically for their academic ability to prop it up. The part you are glossing over is 99% of the school isn’t that cohort and even with them in the pool, the school’s scores are near the bottom of the county. Whitman has the best kids pulled out (and sent to Blair) and still has the best entire school avg out of the system. No slicing the demographics into tiny slivers needed to fit a narrative.

Blair is about 20% magnet (SMCS and CAP), not 1% magent.

A lot of the best kids in western MoCo choose to stay at home school, or are not chosen for Blair due to the arbitratiness of which borderline kids make the cut. But they are spread out across the other schools.

Blair has only about 2x as many top tier academic achieving a students vs other western schools, despite pulling top tier kids from every school.

CAP aren’t the ones getting above 1300 on the SAT and very few if any of the all stars are native to Blair. Just about any time A kid from the magnet wins an award it reads so or so Lee from Kensington or Bethesda. Without the magnet Blair would be no better than Einstein and looking at eastern middle, maybe down there with Kennedy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kudos to the Whitman Principal, Teachers and Staff for having the highest SAT score average within MCPS! Same goes to Churchill, Poolesville and Wootton who all averaged over 1200! The next highest HS average wasn't even close - 100 points lower on average.

# R M T
1 Walt Whitman HS 344 652 648 1301
2 Winston Churchill HS 426 645 647 1292
3 Poolesville HS 303 649 642 1291
4 Thomas S. Wootton HS 405 637 647 1284

College Readiness Data (ZIP 31KB)
https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/DataDownloads/FileDownload/520

Great job!

I'd like to see it broken down by either SES or racial cohort again like they did a few years ago. I think that gives us a much better idea of the schools quality. This just tells us which schools have the lowest FARMs rate.

They did this a few years ago, but at least for my kid's cohort, Blair did a little better than any W. They really need to provide more nuanced and granular data to make this meaningful.

They pick a few of the best magnet kids and they only did slightly better. Of course they did they are bussed to a needy school specifically for their academic ability to prop it up. The part you are glossing over is 99% of the school isn’t that cohort and even with them in the pool, the school’s scores are near the bottom of the county. Whitman has the best kids pulled out (and sent to Blair) and still has the best entire school avg out of the system. No slicing the demographics into tiny slivers needed to fit a narrative.

Blair is about 20% magnet (SMCS and CAP), not 1% magent.

A lot of the best kids in western MoCo choose to stay at home school, or are not chosen for Blair due to the arbitratiness of which borderline kids make the cut. But they are spread out across the other schools.

Blair has only about 2x as many top tier academic achieving a students vs other western schools, despite pulling top tier kids from every school.

CAP and SMCS are not the same thing. that 100 students from the magnet are all all comparable to 300-800 at other school blows mind, actually.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kudos to the Whitman Principal, Teachers and Staff for having the highest SAT score average within MCPS! Same goes to Churchill, Poolesville and Wootton who all averaged over 1200! The next highest HS average wasn't even close - 100 points lower on average.

# R M T
1 Walt Whitman HS 344 652 648 1301
2 Winston Churchill HS 426 645 647 1292
3 Poolesville HS 303 649 642 1291
4 Thomas S. Wootton HS 405 637 647 1284

College Readiness Data (ZIP 31KB)
https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/DataDownloads/FileDownload/520

Great job!

I'd like to see it broken down by either SES or racial cohort again like they did a few years ago. I think that gives us a much better idea of the schools quality. This just tells us which schools have the lowest FARMs rate.

They did this a few years ago, but at least for my kid's cohort, Blair did a little better than any W. They really need to provide more nuanced and granular data to make this meaningful.

They pick a few of the best magnet kids and they only did slightly better. Of course they did they are bussed to a needy school specifically for their academic ability to prop it up. The part you are glossing over is 99% of the school isn’t that cohort and even with them in the pool, the school’s scores are near the bottom of the county. Whitman has the best kids pulled out (and sent to Blair) and still has the best entire school avg out of the system. No slicing the demographics into tiny slivers needed to fit a narrative.

Blair is about 20% magnet (SMCS and CAP), not 1% magent.

A lot of the best kids in western MoCo choose to stay at home school, or are not chosen for Blair due to the arbitratiness of which borderline kids make the cut. But they are spread out across the other schools.

Blair has only about 2x as many top tier academic achieving a students vs other western schools, despite pulling top tier kids from every school.

Jealous much?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kudos to the Whitman Principal, Teachers and Staff for having the highest SAT score average within MCPS! Same goes to Churchill, Poolesville and Wootton who all averaged over 1200! The next highest HS average wasn't even close - 100 points lower on average.

# R M T
1 Walt Whitman HS 344 652 648 1301
2 Winston Churchill HS 426 645 647 1292
3 Poolesville HS 303 649 642 1291
4 Thomas S. Wootton HS 405 637 647 1284

College Readiness Data (ZIP 31KB)
https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/DataDownloads/FileDownload/520

Great job!

I'd like to see it broken down by either SES or racial cohort again like they did a few years ago. I think that gives us a much better idea of the schools quality. This just tells us which schools have the lowest FARMs rate.

They did this a few years ago, but at least for my kid's cohort, Blair did a little better than any W. They really need to provide more nuanced and granular data to make this meaningful.

They pick a few of the best magnet kids and they only did slightly better. Of course they did they are bussed to a needy school specifically for their academic ability to prop it up. The part you are glossing over is 99% of the school isn’t that cohort and even with them in the pool, the school’s scores are near the bottom of the county. Whitman has the best kids pulled out (and sent to Blair) and still has the best entire school avg out of the system. No slicing the demographics into tiny slivers needed to fit a narrative.

Blair is about 20% magnet (SMCS and CAP), not 1% magent.

A lot of the best kids in western MoCo choose to stay at home school, or are not chosen for Blair due to the arbitratiness of which borderline kids make the cut. But they are spread out across the other schools.

Blair has only about 2x as many top tier academic achieving a students vs other western schools, despite pulling top tier kids from every school.

I don't think this is true. We are zoned for a W HS and DD reports that all the good students are hoping to go to either SMCS or RMIB.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The flip side is that it is easier to stand out of the crowd during applications if you go elsewhere and have very high scores…

How would a college even know that your score is higher than everyone else st your school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The flip side is that it is easier to stand out of the crowd during applications if you go elsewhere and have very high scores…

How would a college even know that your score is higher than everyone else st your school?

They see the applications.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kudos to the Whitman Principal, Teachers and Staff for having the highest SAT score average within MCPS! Same goes to Churchill, Poolesville and Wootton who all averaged over 1200! The next highest HS average wasn't even close - 100 points lower on average.

# R M T
1 Walt Whitman HS 344 652 648 1301
2 Winston Churchill HS 426 645 647 1292
3 Poolesville HS 303 649 642 1291
4 Thomas S. Wootton HS 405 637 647 1284

College Readiness Data (ZIP 31KB)
https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/DataDownloads/FileDownload/520

Great job!

I'd like to see it broken down by either SES or racial cohort again like they did a few years ago. I think that gives us a much better idea of the schools quality. This just tells us which schools have the lowest FARMs rate.

They did this a few years ago, but at least for my kid's cohort, Blair did a little better than any W. They really need to provide more nuanced and granular data to make this meaningful.

They pick a few of the best magnet kids and they only did slightly better. Of course they did they are bussed to a needy school specifically for their academic ability to prop it up. The part you are glossing over is 99% of the school isn’t that cohort and even with them in the pool, the school’s scores are near the bottom of the county. Whitman has the best kids pulled out (and sent to Blair) and still has the best entire school avg out of the system. No slicing the demographics into tiny slivers needed to fit a narrative.

Blair is about 20% magnet (SMCS and CAP), not 1% magent.

A lot of the best kids in western MoCo choose to stay at home school, or are not chosen for Blair due to the arbitratiness of which borderline kids make the cut. But they are spread out across the other schools.

Blair has only about 2x as many top tier academic achieving a students vs other western schools, despite pulling top tier kids from every school.

CAP aren’t the ones getting above 1300 on the SAT and very few if any of the all stars are native to Blair. Just about any time A kid from the magnet wins an award it reads so or so Lee from Kensington or Bethesda. Without the magnet Blair would be no better than Einstein and looking at eastern middle, maybe down there with Kennedy

Good to know where the levels of intelligence and achievement in the DCC, Four Corners, and the Blair catchment stand. Don't move here, folks: we're apparently not smart enough to survive on our own without W visitors to artificially inflate our test scores. Wow, PP. Just wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kudos to the Whitman Principal, Teachers and Staff for having the highest SAT score average within MCPS! Same goes to Churchill, Poolesville and Wootton who all averaged over 1200! The next highest HS average wasn't even close - 100 points lower on average.

# R M T
1 Walt Whitman HS 344 652 648 1301
2 Winston Churchill HS 426 645 647 1292
3 Poolesville HS 303 649 642 1291
4 Thomas S. Wootton HS 405 637 647 1284

College Readiness Data (ZIP 31KB)
https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/DataDownloads/FileDownload/520

Great job!

I'd like to see it broken down by either SES or racial cohort again like they did a few years ago. I think that gives us a much better idea of the schools quality. This just tells us which schools have the lowest FARMs rate.

They did this a few years ago, but at least for my kid's cohort, Blair did a little better than any W. They really need to provide more nuanced and granular data to make this meaningful.

They pick a few of the best magnet kids and they only did slightly better. Of course they did they are bussed to a needy school specifically for their academic ability to prop it up. The part you are glossing over is 99% of the school isn’t that cohort and even with them in the pool, the school’s scores are near the bottom of the county. Whitman has the best kids pulled out (and sent to Blair) and still has the best entire school avg out of the system. No slicing the demographics into tiny slivers needed to fit a narrative.

Blair is about 20% magnet (SMCS and CAP), not 1% magent.

A lot of the best kids in western MoCo choose to stay at home school, or are not chosen for Blair due to the arbitratiness of which borderline kids make the cut. But they are spread out across the other schools.

Blair has only about 2x as many top tier academic achieving a students vs other western schools, despite pulling top tier kids from every school.

I don't think this is true. We are zoned for a W HS and DD reports that all the good students are hoping to go to either SMCS or RMIB.

Disagree with this. Highly involved with the schools (teach and multiple kids) and zoned for a W school and very few kids opt for SMCS or RMIB. Maybe from Walter Johnson.

[Anonymous]

That's quite good given the brain drain to the magnets. Look at the list of US Presidential Scholarship candidates and NMFs. Heavily concentrated at the magnets.

[Anonymous]

They’re the whitest schools. What are you congratulating?