Congrats to Walt Whitman HS!

[Anonymous]

Whitman gets the same overall results of an inner city Los Angeles high school in terms of exits - 30% or fewer to a 4 yr college and the rest to CC or military or employment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Whitman gets the same overall results of an inner city Los Angeles high school in terms of exits - 30% or fewer to a 4 yr college and the rest to CC or military or employment.

Really?! That is surprising!

[Anonymous]

Congrats on being rich!

lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whitman gets the same overall results of an inner city Los Angeles high school in terms of exits - 30% or fewer to a 4 yr college and the rest to CC or military or employment.

Really?! That is surprising!

Yeah I was surprised but it is true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Whitman gets the same overall results of an inner city Los Angeles high school in terms of exits - 30% or fewer to a 4 yr college and the rest to CC or military or employment.

That's a stupid lie.

https://theblackandwhite.net/75604/feature/senior-destinations-2023/

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whitman gets the same overall results of an inner city Los Angeles high school in terms of exits - 30% or fewer to a 4 yr college and the rest to CC or military or employment.

That's a stupid lie.

https://theblackandwhite.net/75604/feature/senior-destinations-2023/

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf

It’s not clear how what you posted disproves the PP’s point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whitman gets the same overall results of an inner city Los Angeles high school in terms of exits - 30% or fewer to a 4 yr college and the rest to CC or military or employment.

That's a stupid lie.

https://theblackandwhite.net/75604/feature/senior-destinations-2023/

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf

It’s not clear how what you posted disproves the PP’s point?

PP didn't post anything in the first place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:lol!! My friend is a school psych at one of these W schools and they told me the amount of parents who demand a 504 for “adhd” to get extended time in high school is unbelievable. Parents will even get bogus Dr notes or private evals to get this documentation to get these 504s before leaving onto college. It’s 100% scamming the system

If they are scoring higher with accommodations, that’s direct proof that they need the accommodations.

Not scamming the system. The system is scamming the kids who need time but don’t get it. Call your local equity officer.

This. Kids that need extra time benefit from extra time. Kids that do not need extra time do not benefit from extra time. Multiple studies confirm this dating back to the early 90’s.

I’d be fine if everyone had extra time, not because it would somehow magically increase everyone’s grades, but because it would finally put this foolish argument to rest.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2010672/

Then why the influx of parents panicking for “accommodations” in tenth and 11th grade at these particular schools? It’s ridiculous, entitled and dishonest. Cite whatever study you can find, these W parents know exactly what they’re doing. There’s a reason why it’s only happening in these areas

[Anonymous]

Actually extended time seems to benefit higher achieving kids rather than children with the actual disability. See results page. These parents are onto something

https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED563027.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kudos to the Whitman Principal, Teachers and Staff for having the highest SAT score average within MCPS! Same goes to Churchill, Poolesville and Wootton who all averaged over 1200! The next highest HS average wasn't even close - 100 points lower on average.

# R M T
1 Walt Whitman HS 344 652 648 1301
2 Winston Churchill HS 426 645 647 1292
3 Poolesville HS 303 649 642 1291
4 Thomas S. Wootton HS 405 637 647 1284

College Readiness Data (ZIP 31KB)
https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/DataDownloads/FileDownload/520

Great job!

I'd like to see it broken down by either SES or racial cohort again like they did a few years ago. I think that gives us a much better idea of the schools quality. This just tells us which schools have the lowest FARMs rate.

They did this a few years ago, but at least for my kid's cohort, Blair did a little better than any W. They really need to provide more nuanced and granular data to make this meaningful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:lol!! My friend is a school psych at one of these W schools and they told me the amount of parents who demand a 504 for “adhd” to get extended time in high school is unbelievable. Parents will even get bogus Dr notes or private evals to get this documentation to get these 504s before leaving onto college. It’s 100% scamming the system

If they are scoring higher with accommodations, that’s direct proof that they need the accommodations.

Not scamming the system. The system is scamming the kids who need time but don’t get it. Call your local equity officer.

This. Kids that need extra time benefit from extra time. Kids that do not need extra time do not benefit from extra time. Multiple studies confirm this dating back to the early 90’s.

I’d be fine if everyone had extra time, not because it would somehow magically increase everyone’s grades, but because it would finally put this foolish argument to rest.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2010672/

Then why the influx of parents panicking for “accommodations” in tenth and 11th grade at these particular schools? It’s ridiculous, entitled and dishonest. Cite whatever study you can find, these W parents know exactly what they’re doing. There’s a reason why it’s only happening in these areas

How is it ridiculous or dishonest?

Everyone should get enough time to demonstrate their knowledge and ability.

Your anger is completely misguided. Instead of clamoring for more rushed random test, you should be clamoring for more time for everyone who can put it to good use.

News flash: College is a lot more than 3 hours long.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whitman gets the same overall results of an inner city Los Angeles high school in terms of exits - 30% or fewer to a 4 yr college and the rest to CC or military or employment.

Really?! That is surprising!

Because it's an absurd lie.

I can't find Whitman's report, but nearby similar Wootton's report claims a whopping 94% matriculation rate to 4-yr college.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/r-w/woottonhs/uploadedfiles/counseling/school_profile__wootton_high_2017-2018.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whitman gets the same overall results of an inner city Los Angeles high school in terms of exits - 30% or fewer to a 4 yr college and the rest to CC or military or employment.

Really?! That is surprising!

Because it's an absurd lie.

I can't find Whitman's report, but nearby similar Wootton's report claims a whopping 94% matriculation rate to 4-yr college.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/r-w/woottonhs/uploadedfiles/counseling/school_profile__wootton_high_2017-2018.pdf

Now this disputes the PP's poster's claim effectively. Although it is 2017-2018 data. But still, even with the post-pandemic slide, I imagine some 80%+ of the student body matriculated to a 4-year college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kudos to the Whitman Principal, Teachers and Staff for having the highest SAT score average within MCPS! Same goes to Churchill, Poolesville and Wootton who all averaged over 1200! The next highest HS average wasn't even close - 100 points lower on average.

# R M T
1 Walt Whitman HS 344 652 648 1301
2 Winston Churchill HS 426 645 647 1292
3 Poolesville HS 303 649 642 1291
4 Thomas S. Wootton HS 405 637 647 1284

College Readiness Data (ZIP 31KB)
https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/DataDownloads/FileDownload/520

Great job!

I'd like to see it broken down by either SES or racial cohort again like they did a few years ago. I think that gives us a much better idea of the schools quality. This just tells us which schools have the lowest FARMs rate.

They did this a few years ago, but at least for my kid's cohort, Blair did a little better than any W. They really need to provide more nuanced and granular data to make this meaningful.

Blair has a school within school so all that from Blair are misleading...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kudos to the Whitman Principal, Teachers and Staff for having the highest SAT score average within MCPS! Same goes to Churchill, Poolesville and Wootton who all averaged over 1200! The next highest HS average wasn't even close - 100 points lower on average.

# R M T
1 Walt Whitman HS 344 652 648 1301
2 Winston Churchill HS 426 645 647 1292
3 Poolesville HS 303 649 642 1291
4 Thomas S. Wootton HS 405 637 647 1284

College Readiness Data (ZIP 31KB)
https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/DataDownloads/FileDownload/520

Great job!

I'd like to see it broken down by either SES or racial cohort again like they did a few years ago. I think that gives us a much better idea of the schools quality. This just tells us which schools have the lowest FARMs rate.

They did this a few years ago, but at least for my kid's cohort, Blair did a little better than any W. They really need to provide more nuanced and granular data to make this meaningful.

They pick a few of the best magnet kids and they only did slightly better. Of course they did they are bussed to a needy school specifically for their academic ability to prop it up. The part you are glossing over is 99% of the school isn’t that cohort and even with them in the pool, the school’s scores are near the bottom of the county. Whitman has the best kids pulled out (and sent to Blair) and still has the best entire school avg out of the system. No slicing the demographics into tiny slivers needed to fit a narrative.