Biden commutes all but 3 federal death sentences

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Anonymous wrote:Is this the thread where “conservative Christians” pretend to be Pro Life?

Is this the comment where the poster equilibrates the life of an unborn child and a ruthless, convicted terrorist?

"All lives matter"

Which is why I support the death penalty. Someone who murders should have the ultimate penalty.

Sure, as long as you can ensure 100% of the time that the decision was made accurately and without a trace of bias.

PP and I agree. And I wouldn’t have had an issue with Biden’s use of a pardon if he had had particular concerns with one of the cases. But I have a major problem with him commuting cases categorically because he is a catholic who doesn’t believe in the death penalty. He said he would uphold the laws and he isn’t.

Commuting sentences is not not upholding the law, and the power of the executive to do so was enshrined in the Constitution for a reason--to extend mercy at the executive's decision.

It literally is not upholding the law. The law is that the funding of the court should stand. Pardons are not for presidents who don’t agree with the law. It’s for extending mercy in cases like a reformed convict, or for example concerns about jury bias or lawyer malfeasance - not commuting an entire category of cases.

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Civilized countries don’t have a death penalty. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:Civilized countries don’t have a death penalty. Period.

We do have a death penalty. And Biden apparently agrees with 3 federal uses of it.

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Anonymous wrote:Civilized countries don’t have a death penalty. Period.

We do have a death penalty. And Biden apparently agrees with 3 federal uses of it.

Well... Someone in Biden's staff agrees.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a conservative who WAS against the death penalty until I represented the families of murder victims. I still get uncomfortable with States taking lives. With that, Biden should have a day where all these victim families get to line up and tell them about their suffering. He will forget it the next day, but will be catharsis for the victims.

From what I have read, family victims struggle most with repeated court proceedings. In some cases (nt necessarily federal) the persons killed are family members and the survivors are split between wanting the execution of their family member and opposing it.

https://www.qualitativecriminology.com/pub/v1i1p4/release/1 -31% of families found closure, 35% felt justice was served (these categories being measured separately).

Unless all hearings were exhausted AND execution date the victims would have had more court proceedings as well as the execution itself to get through. This puts and end to that for the cases commuted.

My work is representing victims. They are all individuals. What one wants - the other will want the opposite - or not. I hope the victims of these 37 murderers were reached out to. With that - if the victims did not support the death penalty it is doubtful it would have been adjudicated. They would have said so in their victim impact statements.

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Our closest neighbors, Canada and Mexico, do not have a death penalty. The only country in Europe that has a death penalty is Belarus. I. 2023, the countries with the highest number of executions were:

Iran
With at least 853 executions, Iran accounted for 74% of the world's recorded executions.

Saudi Arabia
With 172 executions, Saudi Arabia accounted for 15% of the world's recorded executions.

Somalia
With at least 38 executions, Somalia accounted for more than tripling the number of executions in sub-Saharan Africa.

United States
With 24 executions, the United States had the sixth highest number of executions.

Iraq
With at least 16 executions

Is that the company you want to be in?

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Thank God he didn't do a blanket commutation (again). At least somebody checked the names on the list this time. I can't believe there's people arguing in favor of clemency for the Boston Marathon bomber, Tree of Life shooter and Dylan Roof.

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I am not a fan of the death penalty but oh boy for the victims families. Those people finally had some peace and had this dropped right before the holidays.

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Anonymous wrote:I love that he didn’t commute the sentences of Dylan Roof or Robert Bowers - two murders widely celebrated by a portion of Trump’s nationalist rightwing base.

I’ll wager 10 bucks that Trump doesn’t have the fortitude to execute those two.

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Please cite examples of this “widely celebrated” nonsense.

If you cannot, you need to request your post be deleted.

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Anonymous wrote:Our closest neighbors, Canada and Mexico, do not have a death penalty. The only country in Europe that has a death penalty is Belarus. I. 2023, the countries with the highest number of executions were:

Iran
With at least 853 executions, Iran accounted for 74% of the world's recorded executions.

Saudi Arabia
With 172 executions, Saudi Arabia accounted for 15% of the world's recorded executions.

Somalia
With at least 38 executions, Somalia accounted for more than tripling the number of executions in sub-Saharan Africa.

United States
With 24 executions, the United States had the sixth highest number of executions.

Iraq
With at least 16 executions

Is that the company you want to be in?

No. I want to have so many executions that those other countries’s stats look like rounding errors for the US.

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Biden shouldn’t have commuted the sentences of the inmates who killed correctional officers. I’m liberal and I understand the academic arguments against the death penalty but I think it’s appropriate in some circumstances. My main concern with the death penalty is that an innocent person could be convicted. But when the murder happens in a correctional facility, there are cameras and witnesses.

I think the death penalty is an appropriate sentence for inmates who kill COs, especially if they are already in jail serving life sentences. Without the prospect of a death sentence, there’s little to disincentivize murderers from killing more people in jail.

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Anonymous wrote:Biden shouldn’t have commuted the sentences of the inmates who killed correctional officers. I’m liberal and I understand the academic arguments against the death penalty but I think it’s appropriate in some circumstances. My main concern with the death penalty is that an innocent person could be convicted. But when the murder happens in a correctional facility, there are cameras and witnesses.

I think the death penalty is an appropriate sentence for inmates who kill COs, especially if they are already in jail serving life sentences. Without the prospect of a death sentence, there’s little to disincentivize murderers from killing more people in jail.

Surely inmates have killed COs in other countries as well. But most don’t have the death penalty.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this is exactly why Dems lost this election. You simply cannot grant clemency based on your own morals if who is more evil - you have to take away the death penalty in ALL cases or not at all. For all you who suggest this is the right move - what do you say to the families whose family were brutally murdered? Would your kid or loved one be gruesomely violently killed and the assailant found guilty and out of death row - how would you feel knowing this decision wouldn't stand yet another murder can be put to death?

No, the Dems lost the election because Trump & co. promised that their supporters' lives would improve. No moral calculus was involved. Only self-interest.

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Anonymous wrote:It will continue his administration's stance of being soft on crime and criminals. I say his administration because I don't think he's aware of what he's actually doing when he signs off on things.

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