Biden commutes all but 3 federal death sentences

Anonymous
Biden probably just saved about $1 billion in legal expenses for the federal government.

When will DOGE send a congratulatory tweet?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ugh what a horrible thing to do. I'm anti death penalty but to lift everyone but 3 is senseless. Either you are against the concept or not. So all these other crimes can be forgiven? I feel bad for the families and all the people who had put in the work for getting justice. This is simply not the way to go about clemency and justice. Not by choosing which cases after a decision gets death penalty and not when the decision has been made to move forward.

The fact he thinks he's God to decide who gets saved is not about justice. This is exactly why Trump got voted in - this crap the Dems think is somehow a gift is exactly mortifying. There are people whose families were brutally murdered and now they will see no justice for their sufferings because one man decided it wasn't a bad enough crime! But oh - because he would be crucified over the letting go of more high profile crimes played out in the media, that means those murders can receive justice.

What a sham - makes me sick.



The three he didn’t commute are the Boston Marathon bomber, Tree of Life shooting, and Dylan Roof. All three of them motivated by bias and absolutely deserve the death penalty


My point is that the rest of them were just as bad. You simply cannot pick and choose who's worse. If you take the stand that death penalty is not justified then you don't do it. If you feel mercy is called for a person who took a life - that has to apply across the board. That's bias to apply only to certain cases and not others - so these 3 did something that allows them to be punished in a way nobody else is? If you go through and look at the ways in which the murders killed their victims in all the cases, you would see the crimes were just as bad. Those families are left with knowing that their loved ones simply weren't important enough to be granted justice as our current judicial system provides.

As I said I am not a convert to death penalty as an effective punishment that offers a deterrent to crime. However, I would seek to change the system as a whole. To disrupt after the decision of a death penalty judgement is to add to the pain and suffering of victim families. It's an added insult and total disrespect to simply leave 3 cases out because they were all high profile and if you made the same clemency offer in those cases, people would be screaming. He did it for all other cases because he knew there was nothing those people could do about his decision. That yo me is not mercy but politics. That has nothing to do with believing in being anti death penalty.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is this the thread where “conservative Christians” pretend to be Pro Life?


Is this the comment where the poster equilibrates the life of an unborn child and a ruthless, convicted terrorist?


But life is life, right. Stop with the equivocation
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I agree with the move. I feel like life in prison without parole is a better deterrent than the death penalty. And from a practical standpoint it costs the government more to sentence somebody to death (due to legal fees for the appeals process) than it does to house them in prison indefinitely.


Not to mention there is no method of execution that is able to overcome the “cruel or inhumane” punishment rule. Lethal injections have been failing and causing grueling painful deaths. There is no humane way to kill someone
Anonymous
I agree with this move. I’m anti-death penalty. My sibling is a corrections officer, who worked super max death row, is the biggest anti-death penalty person I know.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ugh what a horrible thing to do. I'm anti death penalty but to lift everyone but 3 is senseless. Either you are against the concept or not. So all these other crimes can be forgiven? I feel bad for the families and all the people who had put in the work for getting justice. This is simply not the way to go about clemency and justice. Not by choosing which cases after a decision gets death penalty and not when the decision has been made to move forward.

The fact he thinks he's God to decide who gets saved is not about justice. This is exactly why Trump got voted in - this crap the Dems think is somehow a gift is exactly mortifying. There are people whose families were brutally murdered and now they will see no justice for their sufferings because one man decided it wasn't a bad enough crime! But oh - because he would be crucified over the letting go of more high profile crimes played out in the media, that means those murders can receive justice.

What a sham - makes me sick.



The three he didn’t commute are the Boston Marathon bomber, Tree of Life shooting, and Dylan Roof. All three of them motivated by bias and absolutely deserve the death penalty


My point is that the rest of them were just as bad. You simply cannot pick and choose who's worse. If you take the stand that death penalty is not justified then you don't do it. If you feel mercy is called for a person who took a life - that has to apply across the board. That's bias to apply only to certain cases and not others - so these 3 did something that allows them to be punished in a way nobody else is? If you go through and look at the ways in which the murders killed their victims in all the cases, you would see the crimes were just as bad. Those families are left with knowing that their loved ones simply weren't important enough to be granted justice as our current judicial system provides.

As I said I am not a convert to death penalty as an effective punishment that offers a deterrent to crime. However, I would seek to change the system as a whole. To disrupt after the decision of a death penalty judgement is to add to the pain and suffering of victim families. It's an added insult and total disrespect to simply leave 3 cases out because they were all high profile and if you made the same clemency offer in those cases, people would be screaming. He did it for all other cases because he knew there was nothing those people could do about his decision. That yo me is not mercy but politics. That has nothing to do with believing in being anti death penalty.

Were they really just as bad. Reasonable people can differ. More importantly, were they as airtight as the three that were not commuted. There have just been too many people who languished in prison, some on death row, who were later exonerated by new evidence and/or DNA. There has also been proven evidence that people innocent of the crime have been executed.
Anonymous
I think this is exactly why Dems lost this election. You simply cannot grant clemency based on your own morals if who is more evil - you have to take away the death penalty in ALL cases or not at all. For all you who suggest this is the right move - what do you say to the families whose family were brutally murdered? Would your kid or loved one be gruesomely violently killed and the assailant found guilty and out of death row - how would you feel knowing this decision wouldn't stand yet another murder can be put to death?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is this the thread where “conservative Christians” pretend to be Pro Life?


Is this the comment where the poster equilibrates the life of an unborn child and a ruthless, convicted terrorist?

"All lives matter"
Anonymous
PP - reasonable people can argue if a crime is bad? Are you kidding me? If it's airtight enough?

Oh I am pretty sure that I would not care how my love one was killed - dead is dead. I bet that you would think that a firebomb deliberately killing your family as one of the family experienced whose murder received clemency is indeed just as bad as being gunned down in a movie theater. Really - is one not as bad as the other crime??!!
Anonymous
And yet the Biden Administration is pursuing the death penalty against the kid who shot the health insurance CEO.

It's interesting how establishment Democrats think mass murder is forgivable. But touch an oligarch, and it's still the death penalty. Out of all the crimes, a crime against the rich is evidently the very worst. The Biden Administration will put you to death for it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:And yet the Biden Administration is pursuing the death penalty against the kid who shot the health insurance CEO.

It's interesting how establishment Democrats think mass murder is forgivable. But touch an oligarch, and it's still the death penalty. Out of all the crimes, a crime against the rich is evidently the very worst. The Biden Administration will put you to death for it.


The common thread with the three he didn’t commute is the terroism charge. I don’t necessarily agree with that in the CEO case, but Biden basically drew the line at terrorism…
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:And yet the Biden Administration is pursuing the death penalty against the kid who shot the health insurance CEO.

It's interesting how establishment Democrats think mass murder is forgivable. But touch an oligarch, and it's still the death penalty. Out of all the crimes, a crime against the rich is evidently the very worst. The Biden Administration will put you to death for it.


Nothing in your post is reality-based. The AG stands alone in deciding to pursue the death penalty….at least with the current Administration. I’m sure Trump will directly tell his AG Bondi when to pursue death.

And, frankly, I don’t think a terror charge is going to stick once Luigi gets to court. Laughably flimsy federal case
Anonymous
Disgusting but typical of Biden. He agreed to enforce the laws when he made his oath. It’s one thing to issue a pardon out of mercy and another because you don’t agree with the law.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is this the thread where “conservative Christians” pretend to be Pro Life?


I believe in the sanctity of life and the appropriateness of the death penalty in specific circumstances as authorized in the Bible. Thanks for your faux concern.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I love that he didn’t commute the sentences of Dylan Roof or Robert Bowers - two murders widely celebrated by a portion of Trump’s nationalist rightwing base.



Slanderous accusation. No those murderers do not have widespread support. I get that you have your political views but believing this type of evil of your political opponents makes you look unhinged.
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