Biden commutes all but 3 federal death sentences

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a conservative who WAS against the death penalty until I represented the families of murder victims. I still get uncomfortable with States taking lives. With that, Biden should have a day where all these victim families get to line up and tell them about their suffering. He will forget it the next day, but will be catharsis for the victims.

I worked with crimes victims for years. Doing so doesn’t make the death penalty any less wrong. Biden meets people all the time who suffered and faced trauma. Sounds like you just want to push him for correcting a bad policy.

It isn’t a bad policy. If Biden wasn’t a hypocrite he would have commuted all of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the move. I feel like life in prison without parole is a better deterrent than the death penalty. And from a practical standpoint it costs the government more to sentence somebody to death (due to legal fees for the appeals process) than it does to house them in prison indefinitely.

Then convince your legislators to change the law. This isn’t the president’s role.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this the thread where “conservative Christians” pretend to be Pro Life?

Is this the comment where the poster equilibrates the life of an unborn child and a ruthless, convicted terrorist?

"All lives matter"

Which is why I support the death penalty. Someone who murders should have the ultimate penalty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think this is exactly why Dems lost this election. You simply cannot grant clemency based on your own morals if who is more evil - you have to take away the death penalty in ALL cases or not at all. For all you who suggest this is the right move - what do you say to the families whose family were brutally murdered? Would your kid or loved one be gruesomely violently killed and the assailant found guilty and out of death row - how would you feel knowing this decision wouldn't stand yet another murder can be put to death?

And this is why Dems will never trust MAGA followers. You all repeat lies like it doesn’t even matter. We cannot engage with people who so willingly repeat lies and mistruths.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Biden probably just saved about $1 billion in legal expenses for the federal government.

When will DOGE send a congratulatory tweet?

He could have just executed them and saved the money - now we have to pay for their care and medical treatment for life.

So no.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And yet the Biden Administration is pursuing the death penalty against the kid who shot the health insurance CEO.

It's interesting how establishment Democrats think mass murder is forgivable. But touch an oligarch, and it's still the death penalty. Out of all the crimes, a crime against the rich is evidently the very worst. The Biden Administration will put you to death for it.

The common thread with the three he didn’t commute is the terroism charge. I don’t necessarily agree with that in the CEO case, but Biden basically drew the line at terrorism…

Shame he didn’t draw the line at murdering children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this the thread where “conservative Christians” pretend to be Pro Life?

Is this the comment where the poster equilibrates the life of an unborn child and a ruthless, convicted terrorist?

"All lives matter"

Which is why I support the death penalty. Someone who murders should have the ultimate penalty.

Sure, as long as you can ensure 100% of the time that the decision was made accurately and without a trace of bias.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the move. I feel like life in prison without parole is a better deterrent than the death penalty. And from a practical standpoint it costs the government more to sentence somebody to death (due to legal fees for the appeals process) than it does to house them in prison indefinitely.

Then convince your legislators to change the law. This isn’t the president’s role.

Oh….can we stick with this the next 4 years?? Please??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is exactly why Dems lost this election. You simply cannot grant clemency based on your own morals if who is more evil - you have to take away the death penalty in ALL cases or not at all. For all you who suggest this is the right move - what do you say to the families whose family were brutally murdered? Would your kid or loved one be gruesomely violently killed and the assailant found guilty and out of death row - how would you feel knowing this decision wouldn't stand yet another murder can be put to death?

And this is why Dems will never trust MAGA followers. You all repeat lies like it doesn’t even matter. We cannot engage with people who so willingly repeat lies and mistruths.

What lie did PP say?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the move. I feel like life in prison without parole is a better deterrent than the death penalty. And from a practical standpoint it costs the government more to sentence somebody to death (due to legal fees for the appeals process) than it does to house them in prison indefinitely.

Then convince your legislators to change the law. This isn’t the president’s role.

Oh….can we stick with this the next 4 years?? Please??

Oh now you want presidential restrictions?

I don’t see Trump doing away with death penalty convictions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this the thread where “conservative Christians” pretend to be Pro Life?

Is this the comment where the poster equilibrates the life of an unborn child and a ruthless, convicted terrorist?

"All lives matter"

Which is why I support the death penalty. Someone who murders should have the ultimate penalty.

Sure, as long as you can ensure 100% of the time that the decision was made accurately and without a trace of bias.

PP and I agree. And I wouldn’t have had an issue with Biden’s use of a pardon if he had had particular concerns with one of the cases. But I have a major problem with him commuting cases categorically because he is a catholic who doesn’t believe in the death penalty. He said he would uphold the laws and he isn’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a conservative who WAS against the death penalty until I represented the families of murder victims. I still get uncomfortable with States taking lives. With that, Biden should have a day where all these victim families get to line up and tell them about their suffering. He will forget it the next day, but will be catharsis for the victims.

From what I have read, family victims struggle most with repeated court proceedings. In some cases (nt necessarily federal) the persons killed are family members and the survivors are split between wanting the execution of their family member and opposing it.

https://www.qualitativecriminology.com/pub/v1i1p4/release/1 -31% of families found closure, 35% felt justice was served (these categories being measured separately).

Unless all hearings were exhausted AND execution date the victims would have had more court proceedings as well as the execution itself to get through. This puts and end to that for the cases commuted.

[Anonymous]

I am glad he did this. I wish he did it for the other three too. It would have been a bolder statement of conviction. I am totally against the death penalty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this the thread where “conservative Christians” pretend to be Pro Life?

Is this the comment where the poster equilibrates the life of an unborn child and a ruthless, convicted terrorist?

"All lives matter"

Which is why I support the death penalty. Someone who murders should have the ultimate penalty.

Sure, as long as you can ensure 100% of the time that the decision was made accurately and without a trace of bias.

PP and I agree. And I wouldn’t have had an issue with Biden’s use of a pardon if he had had particular concerns with one of the cases. But I have a major problem with him commuting cases categorically because he is a catholic who doesn’t believe in the death penalty. He said he would uphold the laws and he isn’t.

Commuting sentences is not not upholding the law, and the power of the executive to do so was enshrined in the Constitution for a reason--to extend mercy at the executive's decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a conservative who WAS against the death penalty until I represented the families of murder victims. I still get uncomfortable with States taking lives. With that, Biden should have a day where all these victim families get to line up and tell them about their suffering. He will forget it the next day, but will be catharsis for the victims.

From what I have read, family victims struggle most with repeated court proceedings. In some cases (nt necessarily federal) the persons killed are family members and the survivors are split between wanting the execution of their family member and opposing it.

https://www.qualitativecriminology.com/pub/v1i1p4/release/1 -31% of families found closure, 35% felt justice was served (these categories being measured separately).

Unless all hearings were exhausted AND execution date the victims would have had more court proceedings as well as the execution itself to get through. This puts and end to that for the cases commuted.

Not sure what point you are making here unless you are trying to speak for these families as if they are happy with Biden’s unilateral action.