One conservative position I agree with

Anonymous
Who the hell are any of you to decide what anyone purchases using SNAP. Bet you look no better than Sarah Buckabeast.
Anonymous
First, this will never happen because the corporations who make these products will threaten to pull donation dollars from anyone supporting the idea.

Second, you all need to educate yourselves about the concept of food deserts. Many folks who use food stamps live in crappy areas where there aren't stores or markets that sell fresh foods. Or sometimes they do sell them, but they are incredibly expensive. So who is going to draw the line over what is fresh enough and what is too processed, and how will they ensure that everyone has access to a market selling affordable products? Also, many people on food stamps struggle with maintaining appliances/utilities that can be used to store and cook fresh food. How will that be addressed?

I mean, just say that you are mad that poor people are being given money for food. At least that would be honest.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:All I know is that the people I know who are struggling financially have so little joy in their lives, that if a can of Coke is going to make them feel a little indulgent, I'm not going to deny them that. I used to think like OP, that it's a no brainer to restrict SNAP benefits to necessities. Then I realized I have friends who are poor, and talked to them about it.


And why not a bottle of wine too? Rich ladies drink wine, who are we to deprive the poor of simple pleasures?

SNAP is supposed to be about feeding people.

If they want to buy Coke or Cheetos because that is important in their life they should do it with their own money, just as they would with cigarettes or alcohol.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:First, this will never happen because the corporations who make these products will threaten to pull donation dollars from anyone supporting the idea.

Second, you all need to educate yourselves about the concept of food deserts. Many folks who use food stamps live in crappy areas where there aren't stores or markets that sell fresh foods. Or sometimes they do sell them, but they are incredibly expensive. So who is going to draw the line over what is fresh enough and what is too processed, and how will they ensure that everyone has access to a market selling affordable products? Also, many people on food stamps struggle with maintaining appliances/utilities that can be used to store and cook fresh food. How will that be addressed?

I mean, just say that you are mad that poor people are being given money for food. At least that would be honest.


Here we go with the “food deserts” myth again…


And nobody here has said anything against “poor people being money for food,” standard internet straw man.


People here are arguing that the money they receive for food should actually be used for food, not nutritionless carbonated sugar water.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First, this will never happen because the corporations who make these products will threaten to pull donation dollars from anyone supporting the idea.

Second, you all need to educate yourselves about the concept of food deserts. Many folks who use food stamps live in crappy areas where there aren't stores or markets that sell fresh foods. Or sometimes they do sell them, but they are incredibly expensive. So who is going to draw the line over what is fresh enough and what is too processed, and how will they ensure that everyone has access to a market selling affordable products? Also, many people on food stamps struggle with maintaining appliances/utilities that can be used to store and cook fresh food. How will that be addressed?

I mean, just say that you are mad that poor people are being given money for food. At least that would be honest.


Here we go with the “food deserts” myth again…


And nobody here has said anything against “poor people being money for food,” standard internet straw man.


People here are arguing that the money they receive for food should actually be used for food, not nutritionless carbonated sugar water.


Take it up with congress. They are the ones responsible for this ag subsidy. We should get rid of it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First, this will never happen because the corporations who make these products will threaten to pull donation dollars from anyone supporting the idea.

Second, you all need to educate yourselves about the concept of food deserts. Many folks who use food stamps live in crappy areas where there aren't stores or markets that sell fresh foods. Or sometimes they do sell them, but they are incredibly expensive. So who is going to draw the line over what is fresh enough and what is too processed, and how will they ensure that everyone has access to a market selling affordable products? Also, many people on food stamps struggle with maintaining appliances/utilities that can be used to store and cook fresh food. How will that be addressed?

I mean, just say that you are mad that poor people are being given money for food. At least that would be honest.


Here we go with the “food deserts” myth again…


And nobody here has said anything against “poor people being money for food,” standard internet straw man.


People here are arguing that the money they receive for food should actually be used for food, not nutritionless carbonated sugar water.


Food deserts are largely made up. They exist because people in these locations are not interested in buying healthy food.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:First, this will never happen because the corporations who make these products will threaten to pull donation dollars from anyone supporting the idea.

Second, you all need to educate yourselves about the concept of food deserts. Many folks who use food stamps live in crappy areas where there aren't stores or markets that sell fresh foods. Or sometimes they do sell them, but they are incredibly expensive. So who is going to draw the line over what is fresh enough and what is too processed, and how will they ensure that everyone has access to a market selling affordable products? Also, many people on food stamps struggle with maintaining appliances/utilities that can be used to store and cook fresh food. How will that be addressed?

I mean, just say that you are mad that poor people are being given money for food. At least that would be honest.


I am mad about it. Many of these people are wasting taxpayer money. I see them at the grocery store all the time, and they don’t care about price at all because they did not work for the money. This one lady consistently shows up around the beginning of the month and uses her EBT card to buy $8 per gallon milk and candy, and soda. She fills her cart up with around $400 of stuff at the the beginning of the moment and a man who appears to be the father of some of her children(but not all of them) shows up to pay the remaining amount with cash. Mind you there is a more economical grocery store less than half a mile away that has $3 per gallon milk, cheaper soda, and candy, but this lady chooses to go the store with overpriced groceries instead.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First, this will never happen because the corporations who make these products will threaten to pull donation dollars from anyone supporting the idea.

Second, you all need to educate yourselves about the concept of food deserts. Many folks who use food stamps live in crappy areas where there aren't stores or markets that sell fresh foods. Or sometimes they do sell them, but they are incredibly expensive. So who is going to draw the line over what is fresh enough and what is too processed, and how will they ensure that everyone has access to a market selling affordable products? Also, many people on food stamps struggle with maintaining appliances/utilities that can be used to store and cook fresh food. How will that be addressed?

I mean, just say that you are mad that poor people are being given money for food. At least that would be honest.


Here we go with the “food deserts” myth again…


And nobody here has said anything against “poor people being money for food,” standard internet straw man.


People here are arguing that the money they receive for food should actually be used for food, not nutritionless carbonated sugar water.


Take it up with congress. They are the ones responsible for this ag subsidy. We should get rid of it.


Corn lobby wants government to subsidize their high fructose corn syrup and make poor people fat and unhealthy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First, this will never happen because the corporations who make these products will threaten to pull donation dollars from anyone supporting the idea.

Second, you all need to educate yourselves about the concept of food deserts. Many folks who use food stamps live in crappy areas where there aren't stores or markets that sell fresh foods. Or sometimes they do sell them, but they are incredibly expensive. So who is going to draw the line over what is fresh enough and what is too processed, and how will they ensure that everyone has access to a market selling affordable products? Also, many people on food stamps struggle with maintaining appliances/utilities that can be used to store and cook fresh food. How will that be addressed?

I mean, just say that you are mad that poor people are being given money for food. At least that would be honest.


I am mad about it. Many of these people are wasting taxpayer money. I see them at the grocery store all the time, and they don’t care about price at all because they did not work for the money. This one lady consistently shows up around the beginning of the month and uses her EBT card to buy $8 per gallon milk and candy, and soda. She fills her cart up with around $400 of stuff at the the beginning of the moment and a man who appears to be the father of some of her children(but not all of them) shows up to pay the remaining amount with cash. Mind you there is a more economical grocery store less than half a mile away that has $3 per gallon milk, cheaper soda, and candy, but this lady chooses to go the store with overpriced groceries instead.


Stories are not data. In my DC neighborhood Safeway I regularly see people buying the family pack of chicken, rice, dried beans and the only "splurge" might be some onion and carrot to go with it. So I have stories too.

Yes, there is fraud and abuse in EBT. But for many people it's a lifeline. Restricting what you can get with it to nutritious food items rather than sugary drinks might help reduce fraud and abuse but by the same token let's make sure people can eat.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-governor-calls-on-incoming-trump-officials-to-ban-junk-food-in-food-stamps-make-america-healthy-again

We shouldn’t be buying Coca Cola for welfare recipients.


Reminder: wasn't that long ago that conservatives got all kinds of outraged about the suggestion that people should eat less junk food and corn-syrup-laden sodas. And Sarah Palin defiantly hoisted a 64 ounce big gulp of Coca Cola to thunderous applause at CPAC.



It's so weird that Republicans have no historical knowledge or memory of what they believed and stood for just a few years ago.



That’s a 32 oz drink.


You people are literally wrong about everything.
Anonymous
I generally dislike micro managing people and don’t care what they buy. But I’m guessing this has way more to do with Coca-Cola lobbying than actual logic or values.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-governor-calls-on-incoming-trump-officials-to-ban-junk-food-in-food-stamps-make-america-healthy-again

We shouldn’t be buying Coca Cola for welfare recipients.


These poor people have very little so why deny them Coca-Cola? How the hell can this affect you?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First, this will never happen because the corporations who make these products will threaten to pull donation dollars from anyone supporting the idea.

Second, you all need to educate yourselves about the concept of food deserts. Many folks who use food stamps live in crappy areas where there aren't stores or markets that sell fresh foods. Or sometimes they do sell them, but they are incredibly expensive. So who is going to draw the line over what is fresh enough and what is too processed, and how will they ensure that everyone has access to a market selling affordable products? Also, many people on food stamps struggle with maintaining appliances/utilities that can be used to store and cook fresh food. How will that be addressed?

I mean, just say that you are mad that poor people are being given money for food. At least that would be honest.


Here we go with the “food deserts” myth again…


And nobody here has said anything against “poor people being money for food,” standard internet straw man.


People here are arguing that the money they receive for food should actually be used for food, not nutritionless carbonated sugar water.


Food deserts are largely made up. They exist because people in these locations are not interested in buying healthy food.


This. Hang out in a Walmart grocery store sometime. The veggie section is at the front of the store. Take a look at what people put in their buggies. It is sad. People bypass fresh fruits and vegetables and fill their buggies with 2 liter sodas and bags of chips and cookies.

I only see Haitians buying fresh fruits at Walmart.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First, this will never happen because the corporations who make these products will threaten to pull donation dollars from anyone supporting the idea.

Second, you all need to educate yourselves about the concept of food deserts. Many folks who use food stamps live in crappy areas where there aren't stores or markets that sell fresh foods. Or sometimes they do sell them, but they are incredibly expensive. So who is going to draw the line over what is fresh enough and what is too processed, and how will they ensure that everyone has access to a market selling affordable products? Also, many people on food stamps struggle with maintaining appliances/utilities that can be used to store and cook fresh food. How will that be addressed?

I mean, just say that you are mad that poor people are being given money for food. At least that would be honest.


I am mad about it. Many of these people are wasting taxpayer money. I see them at the grocery store all the time, and they don’t care about price at all because they did not work for the money. This one lady consistently shows up around the beginning of the month and uses her EBT card to buy $8 per gallon milk and candy, and soda. She fills her cart up with around $400 of stuff at the the beginning of the moment and a man who appears to be the father of some of her children(but not all of them) shows up to pay the remaining amount with cash. Mind you there is a more economical grocery store less than half a mile away that has $3 per gallon milk, cheaper soda, and candy, but this lady chooses to go the store with overpriced groceries instead.


Thank you for being honest at least. Can you give me other examples of wasted tax payer money that you spend as much time thinking about or that bother you as much?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First, this will never happen because the corporations who make these products will threaten to pull donation dollars from anyone supporting the idea.

Second, you all need to educate yourselves about the concept of food deserts. Many folks who use food stamps live in crappy areas where there aren't stores or markets that sell fresh foods. Or sometimes they do sell them, but they are incredibly expensive. So who is going to draw the line over what is fresh enough and what is too processed, and how will they ensure that everyone has access to a market selling affordable products? Also, many people on food stamps struggle with maintaining appliances/utilities that can be used to store and cook fresh food. How will that be addressed?

I mean, just say that you are mad that poor people are being given money for food. At least that would be honest.


Here we go with the “food deserts” myth again…


And nobody here has said anything against “poor people being money for food,” standard internet straw man.


People here are arguing that the money they receive for food should actually be used for food, not nutritionless carbonated sugar water.


Food deserts are largely made up. They exist because people in these locations are not interested in buying healthy food.


This. Hang out in a Walmart grocery store sometime. The veggie section is at the front of the store. Take a look at what people put in their buggies. It is sad. People bypass fresh fruits and vegetables and fill their buggies with 2 liter sodas and bags of chips and cookies.

I only see Haitians buying fresh fruits at Walmart.


1) Food deserts are not a myth.

2) I've been to plenty of walmarts, and the only people I see there are the people who had transportation to get to walmart (so see point 1 again). (Also, if you saw me shopping at walmart you would only see me buying packaged things because their fresh items are gross, so I'm not sure what you would learn from that experience).

3) No one has addressed the issue that it also takes money to have appliances and utilities. People buy shelf stable foods for a reason.

4) I don't believe that anyone who is mad at someone for using EBT to buy coke is really going to feel happy watching that same person buying strawberries, oranges, fresh fish, steaks, etc. Frankly it's weird to be looking at what other people buy at all.


Anyway, whatever. It will never happen. The corporations won't allow it. No one wants their food to be identified as "too unhealthy" for the government to pay for.
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