One conservative position I agree with

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You sound very cruel OP. Find a hobby or better yet...volunteer at a food shelter.

It’s not cruel. Obesity rates in children as so high. It’s not that people can’t buy a soda . They can buy it with money they earn. Not food stamps.

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Anonymous wrote:Just wanted to give a little perspective here.

Growing up, my best friend was pretty poor and her family had assistance. Yes, they bought tons of processed and frozen food. That’s because her single mother was going to school and working, both 30 minutes from their house. My friend was 12 and had to prepare most food for her and her little brother because mom was gone all the time, trying really hard to build a better life for them. She didn’t have time to teach her to cook full meals independently. She didn’t have time to grocery shop for fresh produce every few days. So she had to load up the freezer with meal options and also provided some after school snacks, such as chips or ice cream. They were hungry after school and needed a snack. A bag of chips would last several days and was relatively cheap.

As far as Coke products, I don’t feel strongly one way or the other. But I do think they should have access to caffeinated on-the-go beverages. I would imagine my friend’s mom had to rely heavily on caffeine during those long days of work, school, driving, and raising kids.

As far as the 7-11 vs grocery store. Consider why they might choose 7-11. They are called convenience stores for a reason. These folks typically have small children in tow. It was likely much easier to manage this in a 7-11. Mom might have even felt safe leaving them in the car while running into 7-11. If she was on foot, whether her children are with her or left at home, I can see where it would make a huge difference to pop into a convenience store rather than crossing the street and making your way through a large store and possibly wait in a long line.

Let’s just give each other a little grace in this world, can we?

Sorry that you romanticize poverty. I grew up like the girl you are talking about. There are healthy foods in the freezer section, and Mom should have been buying apples and peanut butter, carrots and Ranch or eggs as an after school snack. Those kids also receive free breakfast and lunch. Lots of people have small children and they don't shop at 7-11.

Grace is receiving free money through other people's labor to help you eat. Spending it on soda, chips and candy is even worse than taking the money and burning it because it also makes you unhealthy.

Then you were not poor. Because processed foods are MUCH cheaper for poor people. Ask me how I know.

You are disgusting to think poor people need to genuflect to you for your "free money." Gross. And during the holidays no less. Such a shining example of the holiday spirit.

It’s actually not. Rice and beans are cheap and poor people all over the world live on this. Milk is cheaper than soda. Eggs are cheaper than a bag of chips. Only in the US are the poor people the most obese.

[Anonymous]

Abortion past 12 weeks should be limited to serious health issues.

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Anonymous wrote:Food stamps should buy fresh fruit, veg, meat, eggs, whole grains, beans, and milk. That’s it. No juice. No cookies. No chips. No one should be eating junk, including poor people.

Have you seen the teeth of poor children? Many are rotten by age 4. It’s a disgrace.

Because processed foods are cheaper. Again- have you been grocery shopping ever?

And I’m sick of you virtue signalers. You don’t care about the poors health. Your politics proves that time and again.

Oh yeah, processed food is SO CHEAP...

$3.50 for a bag of 8 oz Lay's vs $2.50 for a 5-lb bag of potatoes at Walmart.

You can eat cheap and healthy if you want to. I would know, I used to be poor.

Yes the 8oz bag of chips has 1,280 calories and the 5lb bag of potatoes has 1,770 calories. The potatoes literally cost 48% less per per calorie than the chips.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Soda is out but oreos are fine? Where is the line?

The line should be the same as the eligible foods for WIC plus fresh meat (not processed).

https://www.fns.usda.gov/wic/food-packages/regulatory-requirements

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We shouldn’t be buying Coca Cola for welfare recipients.

These poor people have very little so why deny them Coca-Cola? How the hell can this affect you?

Ugh. How many fking times do we have to explain to you that their healthcare costs us money. If they drink cola and get obese. You and I pay for it. Not that complex.

We all pay for all sorts of things I'd rather not.
And if the poor families want a little "luxury" by having a soda, let them. You've clearly never been poor (I have).

Post your diet and lifestyle now so we can see what you're doing wrong? You cost people money too, after all.

It has nothing to do with “letting” poor people have a soda. The question is whether taxpayers should be buying them soda.

I don’t understand why or how this difference is so hard for some PPs to grasp. Nobody is forbidding anything. But we the American taxpayer give poor people nutrition assistance. It should be used for actual food. Imagine that we were giving them items directly rather than letting them buy them with a card. Do you really think the US government would have warehouses full of soda and candy to give to poor people to eat? Because that’s exactly what’s happening.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Food stamps should buy fresh fruit, veg, meat, eggs, whole grains, beans, and milk. That’s it. No juice. No cookies. No chips. No one should be eating junk, including poor people.

Have you seen the teeth of poor children? Many are rotten by age 4. It’s a disgrace.

Because processed foods are cheaper. Again- have you been grocery shopping ever?

And I’m sick of you virtue signalers. You don’t care about the poors health. Your politics proves that time and again.

Oh yeah, processed food is SO CHEAP...

$3.50 for a bag of 8 oz Lay's vs $2.50 for a 5-lb bag of potatoes at Walmart.

You can eat cheap and healthy if you want to. I would know, I used to be poor.

Yes the 8oz bag of chips has 1,280 calories and the 5lb bag of potatoes has 1,770 calories. The potatoes literally cost 48% less per per calorie than the chips.

Let’s add to this: $2.16 for a dozen eggs at Walmart and 3.98 for a giant 42oz container of quick cooking oaks (30 servings!), $2.52 for a gallon of 2% milk…I could go on. Food stamps are to give necessary nutrients to prevent starvation and malnutrition. It’s not to provide tasty snacks and treats

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just wanted to give a little perspective here.

Growing up, my best friend was pretty poor and her family had assistance. Yes, they bought tons of processed and frozen food. That’s because her single mother was going to school and working, both 30 minutes from their house. My friend was 12 and had to prepare most food for her and her little brother because mom was gone all the time, trying really hard to build a better life for them. She didn’t have time to teach her to cook full meals independently. She didn’t have time to grocery shop for fresh produce every few days. So she had to load up the freezer with meal options and also provided some after school snacks, such as chips or ice cream. They were hungry after school and needed a snack. A bag of chips would last several days and was relatively cheap.

As far as Coke products, I don’t feel strongly one way or the other. But I do think they should have access to caffeinated on-the-go beverages. I would imagine my friend’s mom had to rely heavily on caffeine during those long days of work, school, driving, and raising kids.

As far as the 7-11 vs grocery store. Consider why they might choose 7-11. They are called convenience stores for a reason. These folks typically have small children in tow. It was likely much easier to manage this in a 7-11. Mom might have even felt safe leaving them in the car while running into 7-11. If she was on foot, whether her children are with her or left at home, I can see where it would make a huge difference to pop into a convenience store rather than crossing the street and making your way through a large store and possibly wait in a long line.

Let’s just give each other a little grace in this world, can we?

Some of us don’t need your “little perspective” because we actually grew up poor. Both parents working low paid exhausting shift work. And I never once saw the inside of a 7/11 and never once drank soda at home. Generic brand everything, and meals cooked every night. No convenience meals, and nothing expensive. Only the cheapest cuts of meat at the store. We stayed relatively healthy, not fat, because we didn’t eat or drink junk.

Well not all poor people have the same situation. Apparently you had someone at home every night to cook or could take the time to teach you to cook. Imagine your situation but take one parent out of the equation and add on full-time school for the parent who was there. Do you not see how that could change?

Btw, my friend’s mom made it through school and things got better. Both kids ended up as healthy, successful college graduates. The system worked for them, even if they had to live off processed food for a couple of years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-governor-calls-on-incoming-trump-officials-to-ban-junk-food-in-food-stamps-make-america-healthy-again

We shouldn’t be buying Coca Cola for welfare recipients.

These poor people have very little so why deny them Coca-Cola? How the hell can this affect you?

Ugh. How many fking times do we have to explain to you that their healthcare costs us money. If they drink cola and get obese. You and I pay for it. Not that complex.

We all pay for all sorts of things I'd rather not.
And if the poor families want a little "luxury" by having a soda, let them. You've clearly never been poor (I have).

Post your diet and lifestyle now so we can see what you're doing wrong? You cost people money too, after all.

It has nothing to do with “letting” poor people have a soda. The question is whether taxpayers should be buying them soda.

No matter how many times people reiterate this point, it doesn’t penetrate the brains of the morons here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-governor-calls-on-incoming-trump-officials-to-ban-junk-food-in-food-stamps-make-america-healthy-again

We shouldn’t be buying Coca Cola for welfare recipients.

These poor people have very little so why deny them Coca-Cola? How the hell can this affect you?

Ugh. How many fking times do we have to explain to you that their healthcare costs us money. If they drink cola and get obese. You and I pay for it. Not that complex.

We all pay for all sorts of things I'd rather not.
And if the poor families want a little "luxury" by having a soda, let them. You've clearly never been poor (I have).

Post your diet and lifestyle now so we can see what you're doing wrong? You cost people money too, after all.

It has nothing to do with “letting” poor people have a soda. The question is whether taxpayers should be buying them soda.

I don’t understand why or how this difference is so hard for some PPs to grasp. Nobody is forbidding anything. But we the American taxpayer give poor people nutrition assistance. It should be used for actual food. Imagine that we were giving them items directly rather than letting them buy them with a card. Do you really think the US government would have warehouses full of soda and candy to give to poor people to eat? Because that’s exactly what’s happening.

Have you ever heard of a food desert Miss Suburban Cul-de-sac? Try shopping where poor people live. They have very few shopping options. Many stores have closed in the inner cities. And, if you can even find an apple, it is likely to be brown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just wanted to give a little perspective here.

Growing up, my best friend was pretty poor and her family had assistance. Yes, they bought tons of processed and frozen food. That’s because her single mother was going to school and working, both 30 minutes from their house. My friend was 12 and had to prepare most food for her and her little brother because mom was gone all the time, trying really hard to build a better life for them. She didn’t have time to teach her to cook full meals independently. She didn’t have time to grocery shop for fresh produce every few days. So she had to load up the freezer with meal options and also provided some after school snacks, such as chips or ice cream. They were hungry after school and needed a snack. A bag of chips would last several days and was relatively cheap.

As far as Coke products, I don’t feel strongly one way or the other. But I do think they should have access to caffeinated on-the-go beverages. I would imagine my friend’s mom had to rely heavily on caffeine during those long days of work, school, driving, and raising kids.

As far as the 7-11 vs grocery store. Consider why they might choose 7-11. They are called convenience stores for a reason. These folks typically have small children in tow. It was likely much easier to manage this in a 7-11. Mom might have even felt safe leaving them in the car while running into 7-11. If she was on foot, whether her children are with her or left at home, I can see where it would make a huge difference to pop into a convenience store rather than crossing the street and making your way through a large store and possibly wait in a long line.

Let’s just give each other a little grace in this world, can we?

Some of us don’t need your “little perspective” because we actually grew up poor. Both parents working low paid exhausting shift work. And I never once saw the inside of a 7/11 and never once drank soda at home. Generic brand everything, and meals cooked every night. No convenience meals, and nothing expensive. Only the cheapest cuts of meat at the store. We stayed relatively healthy, not fat, because we didn’t eat or drink junk.

Well not all poor people have the same situation. Apparently you had someone at home every night to cook or could take the time to teach you to cook. Imagine your situation but take one parent out of the equation and add on full-time school for the parent who was there. Do you not see how that could change?

Btw, my friend’s mom made it through school and things got better. Both kids ended up as healthy, successful college graduates. The system worked for them, even if they had to live off processed food for a couple of years.

Sorry, just excuses. It’s a lazy choice to eat junk and processed food. There are many many easy cheap and simple meals even a child can prepare- and poor people had being doing this for decades before the invention of Doritos and microwave Kraft Mac and cheese cups

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why? . Poor people need caffeine to work too and cant afford a 6 dollar matcha or oat milk latte every morning like the elitist snobs who look down on them.

Poor people dont need to be punished. If you want to go after sugar, go after Starbucks as well but you won't because the poor dont use food stamps for it

No one "needs" caffeine to work.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-governor-calls-on-incoming-trump-officials-to-ban-junk-food-in-food-stamps-make-america-healthy-again

We shouldn’t be buying Coca Cola for welfare recipients.

These poor people have very little so why deny them Coca-Cola? How the hell can this affect you?

Ugh. How many fking times do we have to explain to you that their healthcare costs us money. If they drink cola and get obese. You and I pay for it. Not that complex.

We all pay for all sorts of things I'd rather not.
And if the poor families want a little "luxury" by having a soda, let them. You've clearly never been poor (I have).

Post your diet and lifestyle now so we can see what you're doing wrong? You cost people money too, after all.

It has nothing to do with “letting” poor people have a soda. The question is whether taxpayers should be buying them soda.

I don’t understand why or how this difference is so hard for some PPs to grasp. Nobody is forbidding anything. But we the American taxpayer give poor people nutrition assistance. It should be used for actual food. Imagine that we were giving them items directly rather than letting them buy them with a card. Do you really think the US government would have warehouses full of soda and candy to give to poor people to eat? Because that’s exactly what’s happening.

Have you ever heard of a food desert Miss Suburban Cul-de-sac? Try shopping where poor people live. They have very few shopping options. Many stores have closed in the inner cities. And, if you can even find an apple, it is likely to be brown.

False. “Food deserts” exist because that is what people WANT to buy. If gas stations and convenience stores stocked more heathy items and fresh food, it would rot and not sell. Unless of course those were the only eligible purchases with food stamps. Get it?

[Anonymous]

Petty distraction by people to incompetent to govern.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why? . Poor people need caffeine to work too and cant afford a 6 dollar matcha or oat milk latte every morning like the elitist snobs who look down on them.

Poor people dont need to be punished. If you want to go after sugar, go after Starbucks as well but you won't because the poor dont use food stamps for it

No one "needs" caffeine to work.

Not everyone, especially poor people, have the luxury of a quiet and restful 8 hours of sleep every night.