UMD In-state or Virginia Tech

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:VT is not worth OOS tuition if MD is an option.


Why not?


Well down to brass tacks, UMD $30,185 in state and VA Tech is $62,014 OOS. But having lectured at both, I would pick VT for the setting, the campus, the spirit, the hokie stone. DC was excited when we toured and was to apply but got into UVA ED.


Great info, thanks. Why did your DC choose UVA?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:For those that turned down UMD in-state for VT, why did you choose VT?


One or more of 4 reasons I can think of:
1. Major unavailable
2. Location (Didn't like UMD's location)
3. Geographic profile (Rural vs. suburban)
4. Demographic profile (Didn't like the demo at UMD)


What about UMD's demographics did you not like?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those that turned down UMD in-state for VT, why did you choose VT?


One or more of 4 reasons I can think of:
1. Major unavailable
2. Location (Didn't like UMD's location)
3. Geographic profile (Rural vs. suburban)
4. Demographic profile (Didn't like the demo at UMD)

ie, too many dark skinned people, and lgbtq

and Hebrews
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:VT is not worth OOS tuition if MD is an option.


And vice-versa.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:VT is not worth OOS tuition if MD is an option.


Why not?

Because UMD > Vtech in every ranking, if that's important to you.

But, if your kid wants a different setting, and you can afford it and don't care about rankings, then go for it.

By the by, UMD beats Vtech in football pretty much every year.


Oh, boy. The crazy UMD booster is back. Their rankings are pretty much identical, though since it seems to matter to YOU, VT is ranked higher for engineering. -DP

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/virginia-tech-3754/overall-rankings
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/university-of-maryland-2103/overall-rankings
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:My daughter picked Virginia Tech over in state UMD. She had it stuck in her head that college park would be like high school. She wasn’t obsessed with Virginia Tech but was happy to be going. (She was accepted but didnt get to visit UGA and OH State. It was Covid and everything was messed up. )
Transferred to Maryland second semester of freshman year. Was so happy!!!

Blacksburg was too rural. And CP was not high school part 2. And the $$ savings was wonderful and should not be over looked.

Yea, UMD is huge. It doesn't have to be HS 2.0 if you don't want it to. It's so big and diverse you can find different groups.

My kids hate rural settings. They like having a metro nearby to go into DC, and even NY. DC goes to NY often from UMD taking the metro/amtrak/bus, not to mention the proximity to so many jobs for internships year round, which DC also has.


DP. Ugh, this sounds exactly the opposite of my kids, both of whom hate urban settings and sought out rural schools near the mountains.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Absent a scholarship, the value proposition is not there for VT OOS vs instate UMD.


And vice-versa.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Just specific to her it felt isolated. Granted, there were no football games and big parties, She went on hikes and did lots of outdoorsy stuff. I would chalk it up to Covid however the big lesson to share is : UMD was way better than she expected being in state and 35 -45 mins from home. She felt connected to DC, made friends from all over and really loved the business school. There really was no point to pay extra money when UMD was an excellent option. She loved that I could swing by and treat for groceries. We could pick her up for major family events etc.
it felt far away when she wanted it to be, and then felt close when she wanted it to be win win





OMG you know nothing about VT! Football is huge! Pep is huge. There's frat and sorority houses. How do you not know this!!!!


Cousin's kid goes to VT. His issue is that there's not too many exciting things to do after football season is over.


But College Park - now *there's* an exciting, cosmopolitan city!
DP
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just specific to her it felt isolated. Granted, there were no football games and big parties, She went on hikes and did lots of outdoorsy stuff. I would chalk it up to Covid however the big lesson to share is : UMD was way better than she expected being in state and 35 -45 mins from home. She felt connected to DC, made friends from all over and really loved the business school. There really was no point to pay extra money when UMD was an excellent option. She loved that I could swing by and treat for groceries. We could pick her up for major family events etc.
it felt far away when she wanted it to be, and then felt close when she wanted it to be win win





OMG you know nothing about VT! Football is huge! Pep is huge. There's frat and sorority houses. How do you not know this!!!!


Cousin's kid goes to VT. His issue is that there's not too many exciting things to do after football season is over.


Your cousin has issues. VT is party central. Tell them to leave their dorm room. There's a huge greek scene going on year round. My VT kid found TOO much (as in distracting) stuff going on. Google whst to do Blacksburg, VT


DP. I agree there's a lot to do at VT and in Blacksburg, but the Greek scene is only about 19% of students - not huge, by any means. That just means there are parties available if you're interested, but plenty of other things to do as well. My VT student loves it there.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t pay OOS for either one if I had in state at either one.


Neither would I, and I certainly wouldn't pay for OOS to be in College Park. It's such a dump.

A dump? Cool little downtown and campus is nice.

Downtown is nice. They completely revitalized it. Better location if you want a city nearby. Academics much better. Not sure about athletics. UMD esp if in state.


Academics are not 'much better'. What are you even talking about?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just specific to her it felt isolated. Granted, there were no football games and big parties, She went on hikes and did lots of outdoorsy stuff. I would chalk it up to Covid however the big lesson to share is : UMD was way better than she expected being in state and 35 -45 mins from home. She felt connected to DC, made friends from all over and really loved the business school. There really was no point to pay extra money when UMD was an excellent option. She loved that I could swing by and treat for groceries. We could pick her up for major family events etc.
it felt far away when she wanted it to be, and then felt close when she wanted it to be win win





OMG you know nothing about VT! Football is huge! Pep is huge. There's frat and sorority houses. How do you not know this!!!!


Cousin's kid goes to VT. His issue is that there's not too many exciting things to do after football season is over.


But College Park - now *there's* an exciting, cosmopolitan city!
DP


Can't compare the 2. Very different environments. One is more rural and the other one is a DC area suburb. Obviously there will be pros and cons with each.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just specific to her it felt isolated. Granted, there were no football games and big parties, She went on hikes and did lots of outdoorsy stuff. I would chalk it up to Covid however the big lesson to share is : UMD was way better than she expected being in state and 35 -45 mins from home. She felt connected to DC, made friends from all over and really loved the business school. There really was no point to pay extra money when UMD was an excellent option. She loved that I could swing by and treat for groceries. We could pick her up for major family events etc.
it felt far away when she wanted it to be, and then felt close when she wanted it to be win win





OMG you know nothing about VT! Football is huge! Pep is huge. There's frat and sorority houses. How do you not know this!!!!


Cousin's kid goes to VT. His issue is that there's not too many exciting things to do after football season is over.


But College Park - now *there's* an exciting, cosmopolitan city!
DP


+100
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just specific to her it felt isolated. Granted, there were no football games and big parties, She went on hikes and did lots of outdoorsy stuff. I would chalk it up to Covid however the big lesson to share is : UMD was way better than she expected being in state and 35 -45 mins from home. She felt connected to DC, made friends from all over and really loved the business school. There really was no point to pay extra money when UMD was an excellent option. She loved that I could swing by and treat for groceries. We could pick her up for major family events etc.
it felt far away when she wanted it to be, and then felt close when she wanted it to be win win





OMG you know nothing about VT! Football is huge! Pep is huge. There's frat and sorority houses. How do you not know this!!!!


Cousin's kid goes to VT. His issue is that there's not too many exciting things to do after football season is over.


But College Park - now *there's* an exciting, cosmopolitan city!
DP

Not quite sure this is the "gotcha" you intended.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just specific to her it felt isolated. Granted, there were no football games and big parties, She went on hikes and did lots of outdoorsy stuff. I would chalk it up to Covid however the big lesson to share is : UMD was way better than she expected being in state and 35 -45 mins from home. She felt connected to DC, made friends from all over and really loved the business school. There really was no point to pay extra money when UMD was an excellent option. She loved that I could swing by and treat for groceries. We could pick her up for major family events etc.
it felt far away when she wanted it to be, and then felt close when she wanted it to be win win





OMG you know nothing about VT! Football is huge! Pep is huge. There's frat and sorority houses. How do you not know this!!!!


Cousin's kid goes to VT. His issue is that there's not too many exciting things to do after football season is over.


But College Park - now *there's* an exciting, cosmopolitan city!
DP


Said no one ever so get over yourself. The point was that outside of football and parties, that's pretty much it at VT. Yes, VT is fun but you're confined to the specific area. It is no doubt beautiful being near the mountains. College Park is different since one can venture out of the area and go to DC or Baltimore easily. It's whatever the kid prefers. My kid prefers being able to leave campus and go out to a nearby city so UMD it is.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:VT is not worth OOS tuition if MD is an option.


Why not?

Because UMD > Vtech in every ranking, if that's important to you.

But, if your kid wants a different setting, and you can afford it and don't care about rankings, then go for it.

By the by, UMD beats Vtech in football pretty much every year.


Oh, boy. The crazy UMD booster is back. Their rankings are pretty much identical, though since it seems to matter to YOU, VT is ranked higher for engineering. -DP

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/virginia-tech-3754/overall-rankings
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/university-of-maryland-2103/overall-rankings

LOL.. well if that 3 point difference in Engineering ranking means VT is higher, then that means that UMD is much higher than VTech since overall ranking has UMD as #44 and Vtech as 51.
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