Cycling is bad for the economy and bike lanes should be stopped

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A cyclist is a disaster for the local economy. A cyclist does not buy a car and does not take out a car loan. They do not buy car insurance. They do not buy fuel. They do not send their car for service and repairs a couple times a year. They do not use paid parking. All of this means that they are existing outside of the transportation system that the rest of us use without contributing to the spreading out of its cost. This is bad for society.

But it goes further, cycling is an activity that is exercise. That means that the cyclist is less likely to become obese and more likely to be healthy. Healthy people are not needed for the economy. They don't buy drugs, they don't go to hospitals and doctors as much, they don't pay lots of co-pays to their HMO each year helping keep insurance cheaper for the rest of us.

Compare the investment in bike lanes to a similar investment in building a Popeye's Chicken restaurant. The bike lanes will add nothing to our area economy, indeed for the reasons above it will only erode it. The Popeye's Chicken though - just from the health impact - should create at least 30 jobs - 10 cardiologists, 10 dentists, 10 weight loss experts, in addition to the fast food workers and the general happiness of all of their patrons from the serotonin rush from eating the highly palatable fast food.

So, this is what our area officials should be thinking about when evaluating the bike lane plans by Big Bike. A bike lane? Or a Popeyes. The choice is obvious.

Oh dear . . .

That's great news! Now we can get rid of all the bike lanes because they decrase safety.

Of course it's irrelevant because in that study bike lanes are done as additions to traffic lanes while here in DC they are taking away traffic lanes.

You also seem to be forgetting that increasing congestion is DDOT's explicit goal. But at least we're all in agreement now. Bike lanes make streets less safe.

Conn Ave would have gone from 4 driving lanes and 2 parking lanes to 5 car-through-lanes, bike lanes and some parking.

Pfft your actual facts dont stack up to my warped perception, so get outta here and back to the crecent trail with you!

That's certainly one way of describing it. Not the most honest but certainly a description. Another way to describe it would mention that during rush hour it was 4 lanes, in peak direction, and no parking which then got brought down to 3 lanes with parking and is now slated to drop to 2 lanes with separate parking.

Nah, that plan is dead dead

Last I heard, the bike lanes were replaced with parking but they were still planning on taking away another lane. Am I wrong? I really hope I am

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Or, you could just walk.

And take public transportation like a normal person.

The norm in DC is BIPOC / minority. And BIPOC people take public transportation.

They also drive - just like everyone else.

And this will really shock you, the only way to go cross town, in a time efficient manner, is to drive. The metro is great for going from Bethesda to Dupont Circle but horrible for going from Takoma to Forest Hills, let alone Crestwood to Palisades.

The problem is this entire one size fits all thinking. There's a lot more variety and integration within the City than most realize. One of my main problems with these anti-car measures is the way they inevitably create segregation by choking off the very routes that enable integration.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Or, you could just walk.

And take public transportation like a normal person.

The norm in DC is BIPOC / minority. And BIPOC people take public transportation.

They also drive - just like everyone else.

And this will really shock you, the only way to go cross town, in a time efficient manner, is to drive. The metro is great for going from Bethesda to Dupont Circle but horrible for going from Takoma to Forest Hills, let alone Crestwood to Palisades.

The problem is this entire one size fits all thinking. There's a lot more variety and integration within the City than most realize. One of my main problems with these anti-car measures is the way they inevitably create segregation by choking off the very routes that enable integration.

Sure.

But they don’t cycle.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or, you could just walk.

And take public transportation like a normal person.

The norm in DC is BIPOC / minority. And BIPOC people take public transportation.

They also drive - just like everyone else.

And this will really shock you, the only way to go cross town, in a time efficient manner, is to drive. The metro is great for going from Bethesda to Dupont Circle but horrible for going from Takoma to Forest Hills, let alone Crestwood to Palisades.

The problem is this entire one size fits all thinking. There's a lot more variety and integration within the City than most realize. One of my main problems with these anti-car measures is the way they inevitably create segregation by choking off the very routes that enable integration.

This thread just keeps getting funnier and funnier. I can’t believe I’m reading an argument that the way to end segregation is to submit to automobile dependence, but DCUM never fails to surprise the living daylights out of me. Anyone got any book recommendations for our dear poster?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or, you could just walk.

And take public transportation like a normal person.

The norm in DC is BIPOC / minority. And BIPOC people take public transportation.

They also drive - just like everyone else.

And this will really shock you, the only way to go cross town, in a time efficient manner, is to drive. The metro is great for going from Bethesda to Dupont Circle but horrible for going from Takoma to Forest Hills, let alone Crestwood to Palisades.

The problem is this entire one size fits all thinking. There's a lot more variety and integration within the City than most realize. One of my main problems with these anti-car measures is the way they inevitably create segregation by choking off the very routes that enable integration.

Sure.

But they don’t cycle.

Biking is the default way myself and other family members get across town. It’s hell of a lot faster than driving or taking Metro. I truly pity those who can’t or won’t bike around the city - it must be quite miserable to have to drive everywhere.

[Anonymous]

Cycling is great for cyclists while driving is great for drivers. Be honest. When you're walking you love it and when you're in your car you are choosing to drive as it beats walking. We all need to be able to do both in equal measures. If we all only got on our bikes we'd never be able to get shit done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cycling is great for cyclists while driving is great for drivers. Be honest. When you're walking you love it and when you're in your car you are choosing to drive as it beats walking. We all need to be able to do both in equal measures. If we all only got on our bikes we'd never be able to get shit done.

Cycling is also great for drivers. You in your car are better off when I am on my bike instead of in my car.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or, you could just walk.

And take public transportation like a normal person.

The norm in DC is BIPOC / minority. And BIPOC people take public transportation.

They also drive - just like everyone else.

And this will really shock you, the only way to go cross town, in a time efficient manner, is to drive. The metro is great for going from Bethesda to Dupont Circle but horrible for going from Takoma to Forest Hills, let alone Crestwood to Palisades.

The problem is this entire one size fits all thinking. There's a lot more variety and integration within the City than most realize. One of my main problems with these anti-car measures is the way they inevitably create segregation by choking off the very routes that enable integration.

Sure.

But they don’t cycle.

Biking is the default way myself and other family members get across town. It’s hell of a lot faster than driving or taking Metro. I truly pity those who can’t or won’t bike around the city - it must be quite miserable to have to drive everywhere.

Yeah, you cycle. So does your family.

But you are not Black.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or, you could just walk.

And take public transportation like a normal person.

The norm in DC is BIPOC / minority. And BIPOC people take public transportation.

They also drive - just like everyone else.

And this will really shock you, the only way to go cross town, in a time efficient manner, is to drive. The metro is great for going from Bethesda to Dupont Circle but horrible for going from Takoma to Forest Hills, let alone Crestwood to Palisades.

The problem is this entire one size fits all thinking. There's a lot more variety and integration within the City than most realize. One of my main problems with these anti-car measures is the way they inevitably create segregation by choking off the very routes that enable integration.

Sure.

But they don’t cycle.

Biking is the default way myself and other family members get across town. It’s hell of a lot faster than driving or taking Metro. I truly pity those who can’t or won’t bike around the city - it must be quite miserable to have to drive everywhere.

Yeah, you cycle. So does your family.

But you are not Black.

"Black people don't bike" is a bizarre take.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or, you could just walk.

And take public transportation like a normal person.

The norm in DC is BIPOC / minority. And BIPOC people take public transportation.

They also drive - just like everyone else.

And this will really shock you, the only way to go cross town, in a time efficient manner, is to drive. The metro is great for going from Bethesda to Dupont Circle but horrible for going from Takoma to Forest Hills, let alone Crestwood to Palisades.

The problem is this entire one size fits all thinking. There's a lot more variety and integration within the City than most realize. One of my main problems with these anti-car measures is the way they inevitably create segregation by choking off the very routes that enable integration.

This thread just keeps getting funnier and funnier. I can’t believe I’m reading an argument that the way to end segregation is to submit to automobile dependence, but DCUM never fails to surprise the living daylights out of me. Anyone got any book recommendations for our dear poster?

Of course that isn't what was written but please continue to be your usual charming self. It has helped so much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or, you could just walk.

And take public transportation like a normal person.

The norm in DC is BIPOC / minority. And BIPOC people take public transportation.

They also drive - just like everyone else.

And this will really shock you, the only way to go cross town, in a time efficient manner, is to drive. The metro is great for going from Bethesda to Dupont Circle but horrible for going from Takoma to Forest Hills, let alone Crestwood to Palisades.

The problem is this entire one size fits all thinking. There's a lot more variety and integration within the City than most realize. One of my main problems with these anti-car measures is the way they inevitably create segregation by choking off the very routes that enable integration.

Sure.

But they don’t cycle.

Biking is the default way myself and other family members get across town. It’s hell of a lot faster than driving or taking Metro. I truly pity those who can’t or won’t bike around the city - it must be quite miserable to have to drive everywhere.

Yeah, you cycle. So does your family.

But you are not Black.

How do you discern the color of someone’s skin on an anonymous Internet forum? And why does it matter?

Anyone who tries to claim biking is an exclusively white activity in DC is outing themselves as someone who never ventures out of Ward 3.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or, you could just walk.

And take public transportation like a normal person.

The norm in DC is BIPOC / minority. And BIPOC people take public transportation.

They also drive - just like everyone else.

And this will really shock you, the only way to go cross town, in a time efficient manner, is to drive. The metro is great for going from Bethesda to Dupont Circle but horrible for going from Takoma to Forest Hills, let alone Crestwood to Palisades.

The problem is this entire one size fits all thinking. There's a lot more variety and integration within the City than most realize. One of my main problems with these anti-car measures is the way they inevitably create segregation by choking off the very routes that enable integration.

Sure.

But they don’t cycle.

Biking is the default way myself and other family members get across town. It’s hell of a lot faster than driving or taking Metro. I truly pity those who can’t or won’t bike around the city - it must be quite miserable to have to drive everywhere.

Yeah, you cycle. So does your family.

But you are not Black.

What the hell did I just read?

[Anonymous]

I love the indignant looks cyclists give you when they run stop signs and you slam on breaks so as not to kill them in their ill-fitting bike shorts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love the indignant looks cyclists give you when they run stop signs and you slam on breaks so as not to kill them in their ill-fitting bike shorts.

I suspect the indignant looks you attract have more to do with the fact that you're a jerk who is unabashedly ignorant of the law.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love the indignant looks cyclists give you when they run stop signs and you slam on breaks so as not to kill them in their ill-fitting bike shorts.

I suspect the indignant looks you attract have more to do with the fact that you're a jerk who is unabashedly ignorant of the law.

They're a jerk for not hitting the bicyclist? That's an odd definition.

It is also ironic since you are the one that seems unabashedly ignorant. Bicyclists are only allowed to blow stop signs if the intersection is clear.