Are less teens identifying as Trans now?

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Anonymous wrote:Does it matter to you, as a teacher, and fellow human?


Social contagions that lead to mass medical interventions and pharmacological dependence matter. They affect us all.

I am really heartened to read this!! It’s better for the g a y kids, the incredibly tiny amount of kids who are truly T r a n s which is a fraction of what we have seen, and for the straight kids forced to be tolerant of this farce.


“Straight kids forced to be tolerant of this farce”

Poor straight kids! How hard it must have been to not make snide comments and bite their tongues from the clearly IMPORTANT judgements they had in their heads.

Look, I have a dd that went through this stage in 7th grade and is now out of it. I also didn’t suspect it would last. And yes I know some of it is due to social contagion. But please don’t pretend that it had anything at all to do with straight kids.

At my kids’ middle and high school they don’t bully because of 🏳️‍🌈 stuff. They just accept it and move on. Maybe you should, too? It has nothing to do with you.



NP. People are not allowed to change their race. Rachel Dolezal got into huge trouble for it. Why? Because race, and the social and cultural positives and negatives that go with it, are fundamental and immutable and very powerful. Sex and gender are even more fundamental and powerful. Not toys to play around with.


Sex and gender are social constructs.

Both can be changed with ever-increasing ease.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Girls are realizing tomboys aren’t actually boys.


This. While I have kids just shy of middle school age I also have a lot of nieces and nephews and friends with kids in middle and high school. This specifically has become a topic of conversation especially among the moms and daughters -- the idea that being a girl or woman who plays sports or doesn't like wearing dresses or makeup does not mean you are trans or a lesbian or really anything at all except that you have a normal and common personal preference.

It's not about intolerance of trans people but more about teaching kids not to be reductive about this stuff. It's basically similar to when we were kids and boys got called gay for being in any way sensitive (or even kind) or liking ANYTHING associated with women and girls -- caregiving and cooking and being tidy etc. And yes girls would get called "d**e" for being into sports or not dressing in very feminine ways. It was stupid then and it's stupid now.

Some people really are trans or non-binary but it's possible to be cisgender and still not perform your gender in a traditional way. And also especially when you are young it's not unusual to experiment with gender expression -- I went through a big tomboy phase in high school (which my traditional Catholic mom definitely fretted meant I was gay) and as an adult I do still like menswear a lot but I wear makeup and have very feminine hair. And I'm. straight and cisgendered. It can take time to figure out what feels authentically like you. I think jumping to labels like trans and non-binary during that experimental phase only makes sense for some people while most need to keep things less defined.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does it matter to you, as a teacher, and fellow human?


Social contagions that lead to mass medical interventions and pharmacological dependence matter. They affect us all.

I am really heartened to read this!! It’s better for the g a y kids, the incredibly tiny amount of kids who are truly T r a n s which is a fraction of what we have seen, and for the straight kids forced to be tolerant of this farce.


“Straight kids forced to be tolerant of this farce”

Poor straight kids! How hard it must have been to not make snide comments and bite their tongues from the clearly IMPORTANT judgements they had in their heads.

Look, I have a dd that went through this stage in 7th grade and is now out of it. I also didn’t suspect it would last. And yes I know some of it is due to social contagion. But please don’t pretend that it had anything at all to do with straight kids.

At my kids’ middle and high school they don’t bully because of 🏳️‍🌈 stuff. They just accept it and move on. Maybe you should, too? It has nothing to do with you.



NP - asking people to verbally affirm something that is false, under penalty of punishment or social ostracism is a problem. If trans people want to believe a delusion, that is one thing, but demanding that others do it too…


It isn’t false, though. As you know, gender is a social construct. You are confusing it with biology.

By your reasoning, you should be free to refuse to use someone’s preferred nickname under penalty of punishment or ostracism. If Robert tells you he wants to be called “Bob” and you persist, belligerently, in calling him Robert in order to provoke distress, you’re the glass bowl.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Many trans kids are also autistic and are bullied for both. Mine was told he was going to hell and excluded in elementary school. A petition was circulated to replace the Rainbow Club with Bible club. Kids asked him to watch as they signed it. He became suicidal. We had to remove him from his public school. The limits of your compassion and your insistence this is delusional has real impacts on actual students. Your kids are listening and learning from you. A little kindness would go a long way. When a group of people are being scapegoated by politicians and pundits, modeling compassion and inclusion can make a real difference in the lives of vulnerable people around you.


As a parent of two autistic kids, I'm very sorry that happened to your DC and glad he is not longer at that school. For autistic kids in particular, the trans movement is such a strong force - I worry for these kids and am glad my older DC is past the age and my younger DC has found some new friends that are less gender diverse than the previous group of friends.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm a junior high teacher. Who they're with seems to be very fluid now - and the straight kids do NOT care.


But their parents, for whatever strange reason, seem very threatened and angry about it. It’s so weird the way parents behave.
Anonymous
I think it may have to do with changes in how parents are advised by therapists and doctors as well as popular media. A few years ago you could ONLY be “affirming” and medical professionals would (falsly) claim your child would commit suicide if you didn’t affirm them fully. Now I think the conventional wisdom has shifted somewhat, with more accurate information for parents. So they parents that may have immediately affirmed hold off. In addition the Cass report and publicized stories of detrans kids probably trickled down to parents to change the narrative.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:After watching all the info on tran chop chop it scares everyone


They stopped performing sex change operations at school after Trump complained, you know.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm a junior high teacher. Who they're with seems to be very fluid now - and the straight kids do NOT care.


But their parents, for whatever strange reason, seem very threatened and angry about it. It’s so weird the way parents behave.


Because parents have wisdom and kids may have knowledge but do not have wisdom or maturity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does it matter to you, as a teacher, and fellow human?


Social contagions that lead to mass medical interventions and pharmacological dependence matter. They affect us all.

I am really heartened to read this!! It’s better for the g a y kids, the incredibly tiny amount of kids who are truly T r a n s which is a fraction of what we have seen, and for the straight kids forced to be tolerant of this farce.


“Straight kids forced to be tolerant of this farce”

Poor straight kids! How hard it must have been to not make snide comments and bite their tongues from the clearly IMPORTANT judgements they had in their heads.

Look, I have a dd that went through this stage in 7th grade and is now out of it. I also didn’t suspect it would last. And yes I know some of it is due to social contagion. But please don’t pretend that it had anything at all to do with straight kids.

At my kids’ middle and high school they don’t bully because of 🏳️‍🌈 stuff. They just accept it and move on. Maybe you should, too? It has nothing to do with you.



NP. People are not allowed to change their race. Rachel Dolezal got into huge trouble for it. Why? Because race, and the social and cultural positives and negatives that go with it, are fundamental and immutable and very powerful. Sex and gender are even more fundamental and powerful. Not toys to play around with.


Sex and gender are social constructs.

Both can be changed with ever-increasing ease.


Gender is a social construct.

Sex is a physical and biological fact. It may not be as binary as some people think (there are intersex people and physical sex occurs along more of a continuum than a lot of people assume due to varying levels of sex hormones as they naturally occur in people's bodies) but it's not a social construct. How we label and interpret it is a social construct but sex itself is not. Specifically because it cannot be changed "with ease." It is possible to change your sex but it requires surgical intervention and hormone therapy.

Whereas someone can change their gender at will -- gender is entirely socially constructed. Though like race the social construction is very deeply embedded in society so while it's a social construct it can still have very real impacts on people's lives.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a junior high teacher. Who they're with seems to be very fluid now - and the straight kids do NOT care.


But their parents, for whatever strange reason, seem very threatened and angry about it. It’s so weird the way parents behave.


Yes. My hysterical sister and her husband pulled their kids from public school over this and the bathrooms. She won’t say that is why, but it is. They can’t really afford 3 kids in Catholic school, but Fox News convinced them it was a necessity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Girls are realizing tomboys aren’t actually boys.


This. While I have kids just shy of middle school age I also have a lot of nieces and nephews and friends with kids in middle and high school. This specifically has become a topic of conversation especially among the moms and daughters -- the idea that being a girl or woman who plays sports or doesn't like wearing dresses or makeup does not mean you are trans or a lesbian or really anything at all except that you have a normal and common personal preference.

It's not about intolerance of trans people but more about teaching kids not to be reductive about this stuff. It's basically similar to when we were kids and boys got called gay for being in any way sensitive (or even kind) or liking ANYTHING associated with women and girls -- caregiving and cooking and being tidy etc. And yes girls would get called "d**e" for being into sports or not dressing in very feminine ways. It was stupid then and it's stupid now.

Some people really are trans or non-binary but it's possible to be cisgender and still not perform your gender in a traditional way. And also especially when you are young it's not unusual to experiment with gender expression -- I went through a big tomboy phase in high school (which my traditional Catholic mom definitely fretted meant I was gay) and as an adult I do still like menswear a lot but I wear makeup and have very feminine hair. And I'm. straight and cisgendered. It can take time to figure out what feels authentically like you. I think jumping to labels like trans and non-binary during that experimental phase only makes sense for some people while most need to keep things less defined.


Thank you for typing out what my thoughts are on this. I was very much a tomboy who liked boys very much.
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Anonymous wrote:You are a teacher and used less to describe humans? It's fewer, you are describing humans.



Yes, that jumped out at me immediately.

Pretty disheartening that this is a person who teaches kids.


Remember there are lots of types of certifications. I am a former biology and I am a terrible speller. I don't expect English teachers to know how ATP is made.


I'm a former English teacher with a graduate degree in English and a law degree as well.

People getting their panties in a twist over the fewer/less distinction is funny, especially because it's not really a hard and fast rule like many of our grammar peculiarities: https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/fewer-vs-less#:~:text=It%20goes%20like%20this:%20fewer,%22%20and%20%22less%20effort.%22

Language is an ever evolving thing. What matters is that somebody communicates the meaning of their intended assertion to others reading it. OP has done that effectively. The posters decrying the use of less versus fewer are constipated human beings.


AKA if enough idiots put improper grammar or diction into common usage, it will become “acceptable.”


You obviously didn't read the Merriam Webster article, which details that the only reason we consider the fewer/less 'rule' proper usage is that enough idiots followed one critic's preference. Doesn't exactly sing intellectual strength or independence. The fewer/less 'rule' is not actually a rule and you aren't actually superior to anyone else, poster - only in your own mind.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Does it matter to you, as a teacher, and fellow human?


As a fellow human, yes.

Why?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:After watching all the info on tran chop chop it scares everyone


They stopped performing sex change operations at school after Trump complained, you know.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think it may have to do with changes in how parents are advised by therapists and doctors as well as popular media. A few years ago you could ONLY be “affirming” and medical professionals would (falsly) claim your child would commit suicide if you didn’t affirm them fully. Now I think the conventional wisdom has shifted somewhat, with more accurate information for parents. So they parents that may have immediately affirmed hold off. In addition the Cass report and publicized stories of detrans kids probably trickled down to parents to change the narrative.


False.

Go back to gender critical.
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