APS Yondr Pouch: Opening at home questions

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The shoe holder type holders don't work because kids steal phones out of them.

No phone for the weekend is a great way for your kid to learn to be more responsible.

Not in HS. The kids put their phones in the pouch at the beginning of the class and take it out when they leave. Next class, repeat. It's simple and it works.

No, it's bell to bell.

Yep. What high school is PP referring to? None in APS.

To clarify, the Yondr pouches will be bell to bell.

what about kids who leave campus for lunch or to the career center?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The shoe holder type holders don't work because kids steal phones out of them.

No phone for the weekend is a great way for your kid to learn to be more responsible.

Not in HS. The kids put their phones in the pouch at the beginning of the class and take it out when they leave. Next class, repeat. It's simple and it works.

No, it's bell to bell.

Yep. What high school is PP referring to? None in APS.

To clarify, the Yondr pouches will be bell to bell.

what about kids who leave campus for lunch or to the career center?

Kids unlock phones when they leave campus, whether that’s for lunch, career center, or end of day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid is forgetful. Very. I give it fewer than 2 months before the pouch comes home locked for a weekend. We use the phone for tracking since the bus stop is so far away. Will my tracking device work while the phone is in the pouch?

Questions; Why didn't APS get cell phone lockers for every homeroom? That way the kid would have to go get it but it wouldn't be locked in some impenetrable bag.

What kind of magnet do I need at home for when this thing comes home locked. Can I buy a Yondr one?

Why are you babying your child? If your child forgets to unlock the pouch then your child won’t be able to use their phone on the weekend. Trust me, if that happens once or twice, your kid won’t bring their phone home locked again.

[Anonymous]

Whiny whiny mamas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The shoe holder type holders don't work because kids steal phones out of them.

No phone for the weekend is a great way for your kid to learn to be more responsible.

Not in HS. The kids put their phones in the pouch at the beginning of the class and take it out when they leave. Next class, repeat. It's simple and it works.

No, it's bell to bell.

Yep. What high school is PP referring to? None in APS.

To clarify, the Yondr pouches will be bell to bell.

what about kids who leave campus for lunch or to the career center?

Kids unlock phones when they leave campus, whether that’s for lunch, career center, or end of day.

so then it's not really bell to bell?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is forgetful. Very. I give it fewer than 2 months before the pouch comes home locked for a weekend. We use the phone for tracking since the bus stop is so far away. Will my tracking device work while the phone is in the pouch?

Questions; Why didn't APS get cell phone lockers for every homeroom? That way the kid would have to go get it but it wouldn't be locked in some impenetrable bag.

What kind of magnet do I need at home for when this thing comes home locked. Can I buy a Yondr one?

Why are you babying your child? If your child forgets to unlock the pouch then your child won’t be able to use their phone on the weekend. Trust me, if that happens once or twice, your kid won’t bring their phone home locked again.

This. Better for them to learn the lesson now than later.

[Anonymous]

Sincere question: WHY is APS doing the pouches? Was someone pushing them for this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The shoe holder type holders don't work because kids steal phones out of them.

No phone for the weekend is a great way for your kid to learn to be more responsible.

Not in HS. The kids put their phones in the pouch at the beginning of the class and take it out when they leave. Next class, repeat. It's simple and it works.

No, it's bell to bell.

Yep. What high school is PP referring to? None in APS.

To clarify, the Yondr pouches will be bell to bell.

what about kids who leave campus for lunch or to the career center?

Kids unlock phones when they leave campus, whether that’s for lunch, career center, or end of day.

so then it's not really bell to bell?

Read all about it here
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/Home/Components/News/News/411/227

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No parent that I've spoken to in person is in favor of this pouch nonsense. I sometimes wonder who is on the other side of the screen in here.

It’s a trial between the pouch schools and the no pouch schools. If the students in the no pouch schools can keep their phones away just as well this year APS can go that route.

They probably need to go multiple years with pouches for the kids to get the impulse out of their system. I mean the schools looked away and ignored the problem for every kids' entire school life already.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is forgetful. Very. I give it fewer than 2 months before the pouch comes home locked for a weekend. We use the phone for tracking since the bus stop is so far away. Will my tracking device work while the phone is in the pouch?

Questions; Why didn't APS get cell phone lockers for every homeroom? That way the kid would have to go get it but it wouldn't be locked in some impenetrable bag.

What kind of magnet do I need at home for when this thing comes home locked. Can I buy a Yondr one?

I bet your kid won't forget again after no phone for a weekend or evening. I would thank APS for this opportunity for your child to have natural consequences.

The homeroom teacher having them would be so annoying. Kids in and out during the day for late arrival/early departure and then APS has to deal with the liability issue of the phone being out of the kids' possession and being responsible for them, which I can see why they don't want that at all.

I'm a parent of a very ADHD kid who can't take stimulant medication. I am a firm believer in natural consequences, but I will say that the idea that a kid with a disability that impacts memory and attention will learn not to have ADHD because of a natural consequence like this is wrong. My kid has learned strategies for getting around the lack of a phone. He's learned to be fine with very cheap phones because that's all he can afford as a replacement. He's learned to be very polite about asking to borrow someone's phone. I have learned to not need tracking software on him. He hasn't learned to not to lose the phone, and I am sure would come home with a yondr bag if he were OP's situation. Of course if they used a shoe holder or a phone locker he'd leave it there too, so those aren't solutions to that problem.

I'm pretty sure the APS policy on this has exceptions for kids with IEPs, which surely a student who is very ADHD has one, yes?

I would hope that having a 504 or IEP is not an automatic reprieve from the pouch. Not all students with accommodations need a smart phone to provide those accommodations. "Because Jimmy will forget to unlock the pouch before getting on the bus" is not a sufficient excuse.

yes it is

The school where I teach uses a different system where phones are locked up. Some of my students can’t manage it fine motor wise, so their phones are locked in my office instead, so their IEP doesn’t exempt them from not having the phone just from storing it the same way.

The only kids who carry phones are our kids who are diabetic or who have seizure disorders and need to track seizures.

— special educator

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sincere question: WHY is APS doing the pouches? Was someone pushing them for this?

It’s laziness or kickbacks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The shoe holder type holders don't work because kids steal phones out of them.

No phone for the weekend is a great way for your kid to learn to be more responsible.

Not in HS. The kids put their phones in the pouch at the beginning of the class and take it out when they leave. Next class, repeat. It's simple and it works.

No, it's bell to bell.

Yep. What high school is PP referring to? None in APS.

To clarify, the Yondr pouches will be bell to bell.

what about kids who leave campus for lunch or to the career center?

Kids unlock phones when they leave campus, whether that’s for lunch, career center, or end of day.

so then it's not really bell to bell?

Read all about it here
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/Home/Components/News/News/411/227

Thanks for the link. My kid’s at a pilot school, and I hadn’t realized this had been released.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No parent that I've spoken to in person is in favor of this pouch nonsense. I sometimes wonder who is on the other side of the screen in here.

It’s a trial between the pouch schools and the no pouch schools. If the students in the no pouch schools can keep their phones away just as well this year APS can go that route.

From what I’m hearing from teachers, the no pouch schools are doing great.

If by doing great you mean the teachers don’t enforce anything, then yes doing great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No parent that I've spoken to in person is in favor of this pouch nonsense. I sometimes wonder who is on the other side of the screen in here.

With all due respect, some people are so obnoxious I just nod when they’re talking in an effort to make them stop talking to me.

The pouches are a good idea and everyone will adapt. The helicopter parents who use their child’s possession of a phone to manage their own anxiety need to get a grip. That’s what I would say to you in person if I didn’t have to see you ever again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sincere question: WHY is APS doing the pouches? Was someone pushing them for this?

It’s laziness or kickbacks

It’s neither, it’s because Fairfax is doing it, and that’s typically enough to get Duran on board with anything. That’s where he came in from, and he seems to think that FFX is best-in-class, or at least the closest comparator to APS. He doesn’t want to stray too far from whatever they do to avoid unfavorable comparisons.

Usually that’s dumb, but in this case it’s right, because the pouches aren’t just a one-off FFX thing, but are being adopted in tons of places and are generally well-received. I’ve read newspaper articles about them going back years.