Yield Protection

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just apply where you think you’d like to go if accepted, quit trying to second guess an inherently opaque decision making process.

+1

Also, schools with single digit acceptance rates do NOT "yield protect", they are simply trying to pick a class from way too many qualified applicants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Case Western

What Case does is more, they have a yield problem. Not that many want to be in Cleveland. And yes, they do end up with a lot of people who wanted T25 schools but didn't get in. Case uses merit to entice you as well. They want to make offers to students who want them. That's their job. So you must show demonstrated interest, especially if you are above the 80% for stats, otherwise they might assume you are "applying just because" and most likely will attend elsewhere. But if you show interest, you can get accepted. My 1520, 3.98UW/10 AP kid got accepted (female, engineering) and got the top Merit award. ($42K/year).

[Anonymous]

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This couldn't be further from a ltruth. Yeild Protection was invented by Tufts. Yince Tufts Syndrome, also Emory rejects high stats in the ED rounds confirming that they don't yeild protect.

This. T25s don't yeild protect. For some reason people swear their kid can get into Emory no problem. Parents with kids that had 1400's think Emory is a Match.

Tbf, the ED1 acceptance rate for Emory is over 30 percent.

[Anonymous]

The two schools with very obvious yield protection at our private, based on Scattergrams, were Tulane and Northeastern, only the middle third of the class was green territory. This was for 2023 cycle, so basically the first three years post covid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The two schools with very obvious yield protection at our private, based on Scattergrams, were Tulane and Northeastern, only the middle third of the class was green territory. This was for 2023 cycle, so basically the first three years post covid.

Northeastern get 100K apps from high stat kids and acceptance rate is mid single digit for Boston campus.
You can call it yield protection or whatever but the school has luxury to pick and choose right students with high stats for the school who want to be there.

[Anonymous]

UMiami--in our school's scattergram, all the top stat students are deferred from EA and offered the opportunity to ED2. Without going ED2, even with showing tons of interest, my high stats kid was waitlisted.

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oops hit submit to fast--kids with stats closer to the 25-50th percent for her HS were admitted versus those in the top 25%.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:virginia tech big time

1. VT is not a safety.
2. VT does not yield-protect and says as much right on their website.

"Yield Protection
Virginia Tech does not participate in yield protection."

https://www.vt.edu/admissions/undergraduate/counselor-corner.html#:~:text=Virginia%20Tech%20does%20not,participate%20in%20yield%20protection.

OP here.
I’ve heard that if you have over a 1500 SAT to watch out with VT. That’s really sad because it’s a top choice for my son. He submitted his app early (yesterday) plus we toured in Jan. Hopefully that signals to VT, that he is interested.

Next someone will say that VT doesn't care about DI. VT does care about DI AND yield protects regardless of what a lot VT cheerleaders come on here to say. If the department that your son is interested in has any sessions at all, make sure you attend to show interest even if you have attended a similar event previously. Engage with the department staff.

A lot of schools yield protect even though their stated policy may be "we don't yield protect". What are you going to do? Sue them? Kinda hard to prove your case given the opacity of the process. Don't really blame them though..A school that doesn't yield protect would pretty much admit every student that meets their academic/other threshold/standard for admission and deal with the consequences of low yield and waitlist management. Tech chooses not to do that and that's fine. People just need to be aware of this and plan accordingly.

[Anonymous]

Just an observation…

Many schools have advertisements during televised sports matches on ESPN, FOX sports, etc.

The only schools I see who advertise during non-sports programming are SNHU, GVSU, UMGC, and Northeastern.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
This couldn't be further from a ltruth. Yeild Protection was invented by Tufts. Yince Tufts Syndrome, also Emory rejects high stats in the ED rounds confirming that they don't yeild protect.

This. T25s don't yeild protect. For some reason people swear their kid can get into Emory no problem. Parents with kids that had 1400's think Emory is a Match.

Tbf, the ED1 acceptance rate for Emory is over 30 percent.

A 1400 is still under qualified. Also ED1 includes athletes and legacy students while RD does not. If you aren't one of those groups you're in reach territory.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:virginia tech big time

1. VT is not a safety.
2. VT does not yield-protect and says as much right on their website.

"Yield Protection
Virginia Tech does not participate in yield protection."

https://www.vt.edu/admissions/undergraduate/counselor-corner.html#:~:text=Virginia%20Tech%20does%20not,participate%20in%20yield%20protection.

OP here.
I’ve heard that if you have over a 1500 SAT to watch out with VT. That’s really sad because it’s a top choice for my son. He submitted his app early (yesterday) plus we toured in Jan. Hopefully that signals to VT, that he is interested.

DP
SAT scores don’t matter as much as GPA and the VT essays. VT does not yield protect.

According to our Navience data they clearly do, or at least overly use waitlist for high stats kids. Better chance of getting in with a 4.1/1460 than a 4.4/1560. We had 20+ waitlisted kids with over a 4.1 and over a 1500, including 4.6/1570, 4.6/1580, 4.5/1590. Also two outright rejections at 4.3/1550. Kind of crazy for a school with an average SAT of 1260.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:virginia tech big time

1. VT is not a safety.
2. VT does not yield-protect and says as much right on their website.

"Yield Protection
Virginia Tech does not participate in yield protection."

https://www.vt.edu/admissions/undergraduate/counselor-corner.html#:~:text=Virginia%20Tech%20does%20not,participate%20in%20yield%20protection.

OP here.
I’ve heard that if you have over a 1500 SAT to watch out with VT. That’s really sad because it’s a top choice for my son. He submitted his app early (yesterday) plus we toured in Jan. Hopefully that signals to VT, that he is interested.

Next someone will say that VT doesn't care about DI. VT does care about DI AND yield protects regardless of what a lot VT cheerleaders come on here to say. If the department that your son is interested in has any sessions at all, make sure you attend to show interest even if you have attended a similar event previously. Engage with the department staff.

A lot of schools yield protect even though their stated policy may be "we don't yield protect". What are you going to do? Sue them? Kinda hard to prove your case given the opacity of the process. Don't really blame them though..A school that doesn't yield protect would pretty much admit every student that meets their academic/other threshold/standard for admission and deal with the consequences of low yield and waitlist management. Tech chooses not to do that and that's fine. People just need to be aware of this and plan accordingly.

DP. What you are saying makes sense. It's disappointing, to say the least, that VT lies about this, both on the website and in its Common Data Set.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The two schools with very obvious yield protection at our private, based on Scattergrams, were Tulane and Northeastern, only the middle third of the class was green territory. This was for 2023 cycle, so basically the first three years post covid.

Northeastern get 100K apps from high stat kids and acceptance rate is mid single digit for Boston campus.
You can call it yield protection or whatever but the school has luxury to pick and choose right students with high stats for the school who want to be there.

Actual the ED1 acceptance rate for the Boston campus is over 40 percent, NE takes almost no one RD which artificially lowers its acceptance rate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Elon

(I know a kid who got into Amherst and Penn but rejected from Elon!)

Yep. In at Georgetown and Middlebury, waitlisted Elon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The two schools with very obvious yield protection at our private, based on Scattergrams, were Tulane and Northeastern, only the middle third of the class was green territory. This was for 2023 cycle, so basically the first three years post covid.

Northeastern get 100K apps from high stat kids and acceptance rate is mid single digit for Boston campus.
You can call it yield protection or whatever but the school has luxury to pick and choose right students with high stats for the school who want to be there.

Actual the ED1 acceptance rate for the Boston campus is over 40 percent, NE takes almost no one RD which artificially lowers its acceptance rate.

Applying ED is an ultimate demonstration or in fact, proof that the students really like the school and a great fit.
When you see these high stats kids, why would you pass that?
I can't blame the schools.

ED was invented by UPenn and Ivies. If you don't like ED, blame them.
They created all sort of tactics and we have what we have today thanks to them.