T25 schools where ED/REA doesn't confer an advantage

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SEA is the worst IMO. adds very little benefit and kid can be left with no EA to ease the mind

That isn’t correct. Can still apply to public EA, which is a fair amount of top schools. Can’t do private EA which is a very small group of schools, the most notable being USC, and the EA acceptance rate there lower than RD.

Why would this happen? Usually EA acceptance rates are higher than ED.

EA is required at USC for merit scholarships. All applicants not admitted EA are deferred to RD.

Also, PP is wrong about one thing. Most SCEA schools have an exception that allows students to apply SCEA and also EA to a private if, as in the case of USC, applying EA is required to be eligible for merit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So which T25 schools DO confer a real advantage to non-hooked applicants in ED?

What is the answer to this question?

[Anonymous]

Northwestern
Duke
Penn
Cornell
Brown
Chicago
Dartmouth
Columbia
Vanderbilt
Rice
Notre Dame
Emory
WashU

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Northwestern
Duke
Penn
Cornell
Brown
Chicago
Dartmouth
Columbia
Vanderbilt
Rice
Notre Dame
Emory
WashU

Accurate except for Cornell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Northwestern
Duke
Penn
Cornell
Brown
Chicago
Dartmouth
Columbia
Vanderbilt
Rice
Notre Dame
Emory
WashU

Accurate except for Cornell.

Not sure about Notre Dame either -- there's a higher acceptance rate but also a stronger pool in EA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Northwestern
Duke
Penn
Cornell
Brown
Chicago
Dartmouth
Columbia
Vanderbilt
Rice
Notre Dame
Emory
WashU

I think if you were a girl applying to Cornell early, there is a distinct advantage.
Accurate except for Cornell.

[Anonymous]

Rice ED2 was 6%. Overall was 7.8%. It was their first year of ED2 so may change next year but that seems too low to be helpful to anyone’s strategy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Rice ED2 was 6%. Overall was 7.8%. It was their first year of ED2 so may change next year but that seems too low to be helpful to anyone’s strategy.

Both Rice and Vanderbilt technically have ED2. But absolutely no applicant should think ED2 confers any advantage. It's not there.

MIT seems to be the one school where it doesn't matter when you apply. Good for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In general, I think ED2 provides some real advantage. Athletes and hooks are accepted in ED1 for the most part. ED2 offers real advantage to kids without hook.

This isn’t true, ED2 rates are typically only a few points better than RD, at least at T25 schools.

The schools where the acceptance rate is significantly higher in ED1 are Chicago, Emory, and Wash U (the latter two have acceptance rates over 30 percent for ED1).

For getting into a T25 schools, that's an advantage. 🙂

College admissions are quite competitive at that level.

[Anonymous]

Agree on girl applying ED to Cornell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Northwestern
Duke
Penn
Cornell
Brown
Chicago
Dartmouth
Columbia
Vanderbilt
Rice
Notre Dame
Emory
WashU

Are you kidding about Chicago? Chicago is the one plays YP to extreme, almost admits no one in RD. Even EA is a scam.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:T5 such as Stanford:
REA Applicants are likely much stronger than RD Applicants. If you are not super strong, REA has no advantage.

T20 outside of T5:
ED Applicants are different from RD Applicants. Strong applicants unlikely apply ED T20. ED offers some advantage, only differing in degree.

I don’t understand your points under the second category. You’re saying strong applicants do not apply ED to these schools?

If an applicant is strong enough to get in a T20 (other than T5) without ED, she will not ED T20, but will REA to a T5.

Unless, of course, the T20 school is actually kid’s first choice, which really should always be the case when applying ED.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:T5 such as Stanford:
REA Applicants are likely much stronger than RD Applicants. If you are not super strong, REA has no advantage.

T20 outside of T5:
ED Applicants are different from RD Applicants. Strong applicants unlikely apply ED T20. ED offers some advantage, only differing in degree.

I don’t understand your points under the second category. You’re saying strong applicants do not apply ED to these schools?

If an applicant is strong enough to get in a T20 (other than T5) without ED, she will not ED T20, but will REA to a T5.

Unless, of course, the T20 school is actually kid’s first choice, which really should always be the case when applying ED.

Except REA a T5 is equivalent to throwing away a guaranteed slot at a top 20 ED school, which could be just as desirable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Northwestern
Duke
Penn
Cornell
Brown
Chicago
Dartmouth
Columbia
Vanderbilt
Rice
Notre Dame
Emory
WashU

Are you kidding about Chicago? Chicago is the one plays YP to extreme, almost admits no one in RD. Even EA is a scam.

I read that PP's list as schools where ED confer an advantage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:T5 such as Stanford:
REA Applicants are likely much stronger than RD Applicants. If you are not super strong, REA has no advantage.

T20 outside of T5:
ED Applicants are different from RD Applicants. Strong applicants unlikely apply ED T20. ED offers some advantage, only differing in degree.

I don’t understand your points under the second category. You’re saying strong applicants do not apply ED to these schools?

If an applicant is strong enough to get in a T20 (other than T5) without ED, she will not ED T20, but will REA to a T5.

Unless, of course, the T20 school is actually kid’s first choice, which really should always be the case when applying ED.

Except REA a T5 is equivalent to throwing away a guaranteed slot at a top 20 ED school, which could be just as desirable.

Right- how does a student know they are one of the ones who can “run the table” in RD? All the messaging is to not get your hopes up and it’s a lottery so even if your are one of the tippy top, it takes a lot to think a slot is waiting for you in RD if you bypass ED.