Button on teacher ID that calls the police

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m an APS elementary teacher. I haven’t heard of raptor except for visitor sign in. Is it only implemented in middle/high schools? Our classroom doors are not reinforced. Our playground is completely open to the public access and not even fully fenced when students are outside.

I’m not sure if you are at Ashlawn, but I have often worried about how open the green space is there. Entry from multiple streets as well.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want the physical or psychological weight of this hanging around my neck all day. The job is hard enough

Huh? Its to protect you! Its to get help to YOU sooner. OMG.

I think even a moron can conceptualize how bleak the idea is of having to wear a button around your neck all day long while teaching in case you need emergency assistance for a shooting rather than anyone just BANNING THE WEAPONS. Like, it’s a school, you really think teachers want to wear a constant reminder around their neck reminding them they and their kids might need to call 911 for a gunman one day? It’s depressing.

Thank you for understanding my point.

Your point is not reality. I am a member of Mom’s demand action and agree obviously banning these weapons is the answer. It’s not our current environment though.

Are you a teacher? My point is reality to me. I don’t want to wear one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m an APS elementary teacher. I haven’t heard of raptor except for visitor sign in. Is it only implemented in middle/high schools? Our classroom doors are not reinforced. Our playground is completely open to the public access and not even fully fenced when students are outside.

I’m not sure if you are at Ashlawn, but I have often worried about how open the green space is there. Entry from multiple streets as well.

Many of the elementary school playgrounds are open to public access and not fenced.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want the physical or psychological weight of this hanging around my neck all day. The job is hard enough

Huh? Its to protect you! Its to get help to YOU sooner. OMG.

I think even a moron can conceptualize how bleak the idea is of having to wear a button around your neck all day long while teaching in case you need emergency assistance for a shooting rather than anyone just BANNING THE WEAPONS. Like, it’s a school, you really think teachers want to wear a constant reminder around their neck reminding them they and their kids might need to call 911 for a gunman one day? It’s depressing.

This is like the people who didn't want to wear masks during covid and didn't want to see other people in masks because it was a reminder to them that there was a scary germ present. It's wholly irrational. If a panic button (or mask) makes you and others safer, you need to be willing to sit in come discomfort.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:911 takes 2 seconds and we have phones in our rooms. You guys complain about wasting money and then just want to waste money a different way.

This calls 911, and it allows teachers to call while they are hiding or getting kids into a lockdown position, rather than the teacher needing to be at a classroom telephone.

I understand what it does. I am saying the perceived benefit of safety it provides is negligible. Safety theater. You can dial 911 and never even say anything and the police will come. It’s the difference of pushing one button or three, that’s it

I think what they had in Georgia (if this is the same) also changed every classroom computer screen announce to lockdown. I think pressing a button is faster/safer than calling 911 and having to speak to an operator.

We have that. It’s called Raptor.

Yeah? Explain how that works and how that's equally quick and efficient, please.

Raptor is pretty easy—you open the app and can call a lockdown and emergency services are called— but AFAIK it doesn’t pinpoint the location the way this tech seems to. You can message it on Raptor, but that assumes you are physically and mentally able to text.

Right. So, it's not as equally quick and efficient.
I'm sure I can press a button on my ID around my neck 8 times faster than I can get out my phone, open and app, and invoke an alert.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want the physical or psychological weight of this hanging around my neck all day. The job is hard enough

Huh? Its to protect you! Its to get help to YOU sooner. OMG.

I think even a moron can conceptualize how bleak the idea is of having to wear a button around your neck all day long while teaching in case you need emergency assistance for a shooting rather than anyone just BANNING THE WEAPONS. Like, it’s a school, you really think teachers want to wear a constant reminder around their neck reminding them they and their kids might need to call 911 for a gunman one day? It’s depressing.

Aren't teachers wearing ID badges around their necks all day anyway? They need their ID to get into the locked building before school opens to students. With or without a button, teachers better be aware they might need to call 911 for any emergency one day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want the physical or psychological weight of this hanging around my neck all day. The job is hard enough

Huh? Its to protect you! Its to get help to YOU sooner. OMG.

I think even a moron can conceptualize how bleak the idea is of having to wear a button around your neck all day long while teaching in case you need emergency assistance for a shooting rather than anyone just BANNING THE WEAPONS. Like, it’s a school, you really think teachers want to wear a constant reminder around their neck reminding them they and their kids might need to call 911 for a gunman one day? It’s depressing.

This is like the people who didn't want to wear masks during covid and didn't want to see other people in masks because it was a reminder to them that there was a scary germ present. It's wholly irrational. If a panic button (or mask) makes you and others safer, you need to be willing to sit in come discomfort.

I have a panic button in my classroom, that’s enough for me

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want the physical or psychological weight of this hanging around my neck all day. The job is hard enough

Huh? Its to protect you! Its to get help to YOU sooner. OMG.

I think even a moron can conceptualize how bleak the idea is of having to wear a button around your neck all day long while teaching in case you need emergency assistance for a shooting rather than anyone just BANNING THE WEAPONS. Like, it’s a school, you really think teachers want to wear a constant reminder around their neck reminding them they and their kids might need to call 911 for a gunman one day? It’s depressing.

This is like the people who didn't want to wear masks during covid and didn't want to see other people in masks because it was a reminder to them that there was a scary germ present. It's wholly irrational. If a panic button (or mask) makes you and others safer, you need to be willing to sit in come discomfort.

I have a panic button in my classroom, that’s enough for me

Great. Let's hope it's enough for others. And that you and your colleagues never need your classroom panic button when you're in the bathroom or hallway or cafeteria or in the gymnasium or on the football field.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want the physical or psychological weight of this hanging around my neck all day. The job is hard enough

Huh? Its to protect you! Its to get help to YOU sooner. OMG.

I think even a moron can conceptualize how bleak the idea is of having to wear a button around your neck all day long while teaching in case you need emergency assistance for a shooting rather than anyone just BANNING THE WEAPONS. Like, it’s a school, you really think teachers want to wear a constant reminder around their neck reminding them they and their kids might need to call 911 for a gunman one day? It’s depressing.

This is like the people who didn't want to wear masks during covid and didn't want to see other people in masks because it was a reminder to them that there was a scary germ present. It's wholly irrational. If a panic button (or mask) makes you and others safer, you need to be willing to sit in come discomfort.

I have a panic button in my classroom, that’s enough for me

Great. Let's hope it's enough for others. And that you and your colleagues never need your classroom panic button when you're in the bathroom or hallway or cafeteria or in the gymnasium or on the football field.

If we are on the football field we are not in an enclosed space and can run and disperse… also all areas of the school have access to emergency tools and phones.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want the physical or psychological weight of this hanging around my neck all day. The job is hard enough

Huh? Its to protect you! Its to get help to YOU sooner. OMG.

I think even a moron can conceptualize how bleak the idea is of having to wear a button around your neck all day long while teaching in case you need emergency assistance for a shooting rather than anyone just BANNING THE WEAPONS. Like, it’s a school, you really think teachers want to wear a constant reminder around their neck reminding them they and their kids might need to call 911 for a gunman one day? It’s depressing.

This is like the people who didn't want to wear masks during covid and didn't want to see other people in masks because it was a reminder to them that there was a scary germ present. It's wholly irrational. If a panic button (or mask) makes you and others safer, you need to be willing to sit in come discomfort.

I have a panic button in my classroom, that’s enough for me

Great. Let's hope it's enough for others. And that you and your colleagues never need your classroom panic button when you're in the bathroom or hallway or cafeteria or in the gymnasium or on the football field.

Anyone in the room can push it (or the ones in their rooms)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want the physical or psychological weight of this hanging around my neck all day. The job is hard enough

Huh? Its to protect you! Its to get help to YOU sooner. OMG.

I think even a moron can conceptualize how bleak the idea is of having to wear a button around your neck all day long while teaching in case you need emergency assistance for a shooting rather than anyone just BANNING THE WEAPONS. Like, it’s a school, you really think teachers want to wear a constant reminder around their neck reminding them they and their kids might need to call 911 for a gunman one day? It’s depressing.

This is like the people who didn't want to wear masks during covid and didn't want to see other people in masks because it was a reminder to them that there was a scary germ present. It's wholly irrational. If a panic button (or mask) makes you and others safer, you need to be willing to sit in come discomfort.

I have a panic button in my classroom, that’s enough for me

Great. Let's hope it's enough for others. And that you and your colleagues never need your classroom panic button when you're in the bathroom or hallway or cafeteria or in the gymnasium or on the football field.

Anyone in the room can push it (or the ones in their rooms)

I like how they keep telling people who work in schools, know the procedures and options for contacting emergency support, are trained in this, and juggle the possibility of it happening in the back of their brain every day as they teach, how this works and what it looks like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Goodness. So much agonizing, time and effort when what we should be doing it banning and confiscating guns.

Exactly. Let’s not stop school shootings, let’s respond to them faster! We should be outraged at the state of our country. The rest of the world watches, mouths agape, and we do this crap. We normalize it. Disgusting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want the physical or psychological weight of this hanging around my neck all day. The job is hard enough

Huh? Its to protect you! Its to get help to YOU sooner. OMG.

I think even a moron can conceptualize how bleak the idea is of having to wear a button around your neck all day long while teaching in case you need emergency assistance for a shooting rather than anyone just BANNING THE WEAPONS. Like, it’s a school, you really think teachers want to wear a constant reminder around their neck reminding them they and their kids might need to call 911 for a gunman one day? It’s depressing.

This is like the people who didn't want to wear masks during covid and didn't want to see other people in masks because it was a reminder to them that there was a scary germ present. It's wholly irrational. If a panic button (or mask) makes you and others safer, you need to be willing to sit in come discomfort.

I have a panic button in my classroom, that’s enough for me

Great. Let's hope it's enough for others. And that you and your colleagues never need your classroom panic button when you're in the bathroom or hallway or cafeteria or in the gymnasium or on the football field.

If we are on the football field we are not in an enclosed space and can run and disperse… also all areas of the school have access to emergency tools and phones.

Again, great for you. But how about alerting for the rest of the school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want the physical or psychological weight of this hanging around my neck all day. The job is hard enough

Huh? Its to protect you! Its to get help to YOU sooner. OMG.

I think even a moron can conceptualize how bleak the idea is of having to wear a button around your neck all day long while teaching in case you need emergency assistance for a shooting rather than anyone just BANNING THE WEAPONS. Like, it’s a school, you really think teachers want to wear a constant reminder around their neck reminding them they and their kids might need to call 911 for a gunman one day? It’s depressing.

This is like the people who didn't want to wear masks during covid and didn't want to see other people in masks because it was a reminder to them that there was a scary germ present. It's wholly irrational. If a panic button (or mask) makes you and others safer, you need to be willing to sit in come discomfort.

I have a panic button in my classroom, that’s enough for me

Great. Let's hope it's enough for others. And that you and your colleagues never need your classroom panic button when you're in the bathroom or hallway or cafeteria or in the gymnasium or on the football field.

Anyone in the room can push it (or the ones in their rooms)

You're missing the point that the emergency may be where the teacher is in the bathroom, hallway, etc. and does not have access to the classroom button - not that there's an emergency while the teacher is out of the room away from the class, especially since classrooms are to always be supervised.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Goodness. So much agonizing, time and effort when what we should be doing it banning and confiscating guns.

Exactly. Let’s not stop school shootings, let’s respond to them faster! We should be outraged at the state of our country. The rest of the world watches, mouths agape, and we do this crap. We normalize it. Disgusting.

Why is it always only "this" or "that" with people today? Sure, sit and wait around until we've solved the gun and mass shooting problem. In the meantime, don't be concerned about maximizing safety and response time to save as many as possible in such situations.