Button on teacher ID that calls the police

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:911 takes 2 seconds and we have phones in our rooms. You guys complain about wasting money and then just want to waste money a different way.

This calls 911, and it allows teachers to call while they are hiding or getting kids into a lockdown position, rather than the teacher needing to be at a classroom telephone.

I understand what it does. I am saying the perceived benefit of safety it provides is negligible. Safety theater. You can dial 911 and never even say anything and the police will come. It’s the difference of pushing one button or three, that’s it

You can’t call 911 if you are hiding/sheltering, injured, racing out to the hallway to protect children. You can more easily push the button on your badge you wear on a lanyard in any of those scenarios.

It would probably be cheaper just to have AI enabled cameras in all the hallways. If it sees a weapon, trigger police.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:911 takes 2 seconds and we have phones in our rooms. You guys complain about wasting money and then just want to waste money a different way.

This calls 911, and it allows teachers to call while they are hiding or getting kids into a lockdown position, rather than the teacher needing to be at a classroom telephone.

I understand what it does. I am saying the perceived benefit of safety it provides is negligible. Safety theater. You can dial 911 and never even say anything and the police will come. It’s the difference of pushing one button or three, that’s it

You can’t call 911 if you are hiding/sheltering, injured, racing out to the hallway to protect children. You can more easily push the button on your badge you wear on a lanyard in any of those scenarios.

It would probably be cheaper just to have AI enabled cameras in all the hallways. If it sees a weapon, trigger police.

Or hear a gunshot.

[Anonymous]

Here's an article about it - https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/09/06/security-apalachee-school-shooting/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Goodness. So much agonizing, time and effort when what we should be doing it banning and confiscating guns.

It’s called a layered approach, there is no one size fits all.

Also there are some things we have control over locally and some things we do not. You don’t throw the baby out with the bath water if Congress won’t ban guns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:911 takes 2 seconds and we have phones in our rooms. You guys complain about wasting money and then just want to waste money a different way.

x100

[Anonymous]

I read an article that said the teacher has to press it 8 times, not 3. I don’t know if that’s accurate. Seems like a lot.

There are other alert systems that work from the teacher’s cell phone that do the same thing, but the teacher only has to press one or two buttons, and then emergency services knows what type of emergency and where in the building.

911 can trace the call, if you call from a landline, but there is a specific set of questions that they have to go through in order when you call. So if you call and start saying, “there’s a shooter at my school!” They will literally say, “what type of emergency, ma’am?” “Do you need police, fire, or ambulance?” “How old is the person who needs assistance?” “Does the person who needs assistance have any medical conditions that you know of?” Or whatever their script is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:911 takes 2 seconds and we have phones in our rooms. You guys complain about wasting money and then just want to waste money a different way.

This calls 911, and it allows teachers to call while they are hiding or getting kids into a lockdown position, rather than the teacher needing to be at a classroom telephone.

I understand what it does. I am saying the perceived benefit of safety it provides is negligible. Safety theater. You can dial 911 and never even say anything and the police will come. It’s the difference of pushing one button or three, that’s it

I disagree. I think the ID badge button is immediately accessible v a phone you have to take out, activate, and dial. You can be running and corralling the students while repeatedly pushing your ID button far more easily and effectively than scrambling with a phone. And, cell connections are poor in many schools/parts of schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:911 takes 2 seconds and we have phones in our rooms. You guys complain about wasting money and then just want to waste money a different way.

This calls 911, and it allows teachers to call while they are hiding or getting kids into a lockdown position, rather than the teacher needing to be at a classroom telephone.

I understand what it does. I am saying the perceived benefit of safety it provides is negligible. Safety theater. You can dial 911 and never even say anything and the police will come. It’s the difference of pushing one button or three, that’s it

I think what they had in Georgia (if this is the same) also changed every classroom computer screen announce to lockdown. I think pressing a button is faster/safer than calling 911 and having to speak to an operator.

We have that. It’s called Raptor.

Yeah? Explain how that works and how that's equally quick and efficient, please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Goodness. So much agonizing, time and effort when what we should be doing it banning and confiscating guns.

In the meantime....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I read an article that said the teacher has to press it 8 times, not 3. I don’t know if that’s accurate. Seems like a lot.

There are other alert systems that work from the teacher’s cell phone that do the same thing, but the teacher only has to press one or two buttons, and then emergency services knows what type of emergency and where in the building.

911 can trace the call, if you call from a landline, but there is a specific set of questions that they have to go through in order when you call. So if you call and start saying, “there’s a shooter at my school!” They will literally say, “what type of emergency, ma’am?” “Do you need police, fire, or ambulance?” “How old is the person who needs assistance?” “Does the person who needs assistance have any medical conditions that you know of?” Or whatever their script is.

3 times for isolated emergency situations. 8 times or constant pushing for schoolwide threat situations.

[Anonymous]

I don’t want the physical or psychological weight of this hanging around my neck all day. The job is hard enough

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:911 takes 2 seconds and we have phones in our rooms. You guys complain about wasting money and then just want to waste money a different way.

This calls 911, and it allows teachers to call while they are hiding or getting kids into a lockdown position, rather than the teacher needing to be at a classroom telephone.

I understand what it does. I am saying the perceived benefit of safety it provides is negligible. Safety theater. You can dial 911 and never even say anything and the police will come. It’s the difference of pushing one button or three, that’s it

I think what they had in Georgia (if this is the same) also changed every classroom computer screen announce to lockdown. I think pressing a button is faster/safer than calling 911 and having to speak to an operator.

We have that. It’s called Raptor.

Yeah? Explain how that works and how that's equally quick and efficient, please.

Raptor is pretty easy—you open the app and can call a lockdown and emergency services are called— but AFAIK it doesn’t pinpoint the location the way this tech seems to. You can message it on Raptor, but that assumes you are physically and mentally able to text.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:911 takes 2 seconds and we have phones in our rooms. You guys complain about wasting money and then just want to waste money a different way.

This calls 911, and it allows teachers to call while they are hiding or getting kids into a lockdown position, rather than the teacher needing to be at a classroom telephone.

I understand what it does. I am saying the perceived benefit of safety it provides is negligible. Safety theater. You can dial 911 and never even say anything and the police will come. It’s the difference of pushing one button or three, that’s it

I think what they had in Georgia (if this is the same) also changed every classroom computer screen announce to lockdown. I think pressing a button is faster/safer than calling 911 and having to speak to an operator.

We have that. It’s called Raptor.

Yeah? Explain how that works and how that's equally quick and efficient, please.

Raptor is pretty easy—you open the app and can call a lockdown and emergency services are called— but AFAIK it doesn’t pinpoint the location the way this tech seems to. You can message it on Raptor, but that assumes you are physically and mentally able to text.

Our school has an emergency lockdown button that locks all exterior doors and send messages to computers, cell phones, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Goodness. So much agonizing, time and effort when what we should be doing it banning and confiscating guns.

Exactly. What's the point of a button when you could end up with a Uvalde situation. A bunch of chickensh*t cops who won't confront one gunman, leaving little kids to be murdered and others playing dead next to their dead classmates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Goodness. So much agonizing, time and effort when what we should be doing it banning and confiscating guns.

Or at least keeping them out of the hands of people who have no place possessing them.