I am not saying that at all. I am bringing it up because reality is important and public policy based on inaccurate assumptions about the causes of crime have been disastrous. The truth is that rehabilitation rarely works. The most effective approach to reduce crime is long prison sentences for repeat offenders. We should have mandatory minimum sentences for repeat offenders especially if they have made multiple violent offenses. Anyone with three or more violent felony offenses committed on separate occasions should get life in jail without the possibility of parole to protect the general public. |
+1 it's the parents I'm a child of uneducated immigrants (ES/MS level education) who don't speak any English. I grew up as a latchkey kid. I will say, however, that kids from severely abusive homes have a higher rate of turning to crime. Perhaps CPS needs to do a better job of removing these kids from such homes. |
| 6% of the population commit 60% of the crime. Poverty isn't the cause, but it may contribute to a family's inability to help provide necessary supports to some of those 6%. |
People can come from poverty, and understand that their situation sucks, and will try and get themselves out of it. Then there are some people who come from poverty, and think the world owes them, and that they are entitled to act without regard for others. That's what's happening here - the "kids" are raised thinking they're owed, and they get that attitude from their parents. Most people who experience poverty (including immigrants from every continent) do not go through the world with a sense of entitlement. They seek to get themselves out of poverty by... trying. Trying really incredibly hard, without harming another person. And most have experienced FAR worse neglect. I'm fed up with people blaming "poverty" for the violent choices these "kids" make. It's not poverty--not even a little bit. It's the feelings of entitlement they get from their parents and relatives, who are deliberately teaching them that they are owed x, y, and z. My father grew up homeless and motherless in the 3rd world. He's never stolen any non-necessity in his life. As a child I'm sure he stole food just to eat, but that's the kind of "stealing" that any human can understand. |
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Does anyone know if they caught the 11 yo carjacker?
((Sorry for the off topic post but Jeff closed my thread on this different topic and directed it here.)) |
This thread is about that carjacker. It appears that law enforcement knows who it is but the laws don’t let them do anything because he’s so young. |
My personal view is that there is a percentage of people who think they are entitled/aggrieved/owed something in every class. But it manifests differently. Rich or professional class people that are this way might cheat on their taxes, embezzzle from their companies, take advantage of their employees, etc. They aren’t going to rob a CVS, but it’s the same mentality that justifies cheating to get what they want. After many decades of life, I’ve decided that policies that assume everyone is good and wants to be good are probably misguuddd, because something between 5 and 20% of people are just selfish a—holes. But I think with kids it’s impossible to know, because all kids make bad decisions and can be selfish a-holes at times — so with kids it’s just really hard to figure out if they are capable of growth and change. I’d like to think that all kids are, but I also don’t think our juvenile justice system is well set up to get them there. I’d love to see more studies on what works and what doesn’t in juvenile justice. There’s a guy at Yale Law that was incarcerated as a teen for carjacking and he has some interesting thoughts on it, but I’m not really sure he can really say why his life changed, and that of some of his friends did not. |
This kid is a car thief. I don't think he has car jacked anyone. He steals cars off dealer lots. He got caught again last night. He's one of these three. https://moco360.media/2024/11/19/police-charge-13-year-old-rockville-burglary/ |
Thought they sent him to Baltimore to stay with a different relative. |
Sorry but the idea that foster homes would lead to less criminal behavior is so out of touch that I really wonder why you would even feel knowledgable enough to offer a “solution” in the first place. |
They do, but he makes his way back here. |
How? He's not old enough to drive. |
I can think of reasons to bring this up. It illustrates the problem may in some respects intractable. And while unpopular to mention and not susceptible to government control, it should not be off limits to discuss sexual responsibility. |
You really can’t imagine how he gets down here from Baltimore? Ride from a friend. Ride from a relative. Uber. Train. |
If that is true, he should be removed to state care. I thought the main issue was that he was a DC resident so that CPS could not step in. If it is true that he relocated to Baltimore and he’s still doing this, then if they are not going to throw him in jail he needs to be removed to state guardianship. |