Md. officials urge review of youth crime laws as 12-year-old's serial break-ins continue

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, they are going to change the laws to accommodate one 12-year who steals cars? It doesn't sound like it's that much of a problem if there's only one single person at that age stealing cars.

He's the one who made the news. The news organizations around here suck. Not the reporters' faults. They don't get paid the way they used to. But almost nothing that's happening in the community makes the news anymore.

Did you see the press release about the IRS, Homeland Security, and MCPD working together to break up the shoplifting ring? A bunch of "boosters" were stealing stuff from stores here and selling it to three people in Hyattsville. Those three were adults. The boosters are all kids.

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=46162

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, they are going to change the laws to accommodate one 12-year who steals cars? It doesn't sound like it's that much of a problem if there's only one single person at that age stealing cars.

He's the one who made the news. The news organizations around here suck. Not the reporters' faults. They don't get paid the way they used to. But almost nothing that's happening in the community makes the news anymore.

Did you see the press release about the IRS, Homeland Security, and MCPD working together to break up the shoplifting ring? A bunch of "boosters" were stealing stuff from stores here and selling it to three people in Hyattsville. Those three were adults. The boosters are all kids.

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=46162

They didn’t explicitly say but these were Venezuelans. They had a similar enterprise using kids to steal and commit crime in Times Square operating out of migrant shelter hotels.

[Anonymous]

I understand that the police are frustrated but I fail to see how charging the kid would help. A twelve year old breaking into car dealerships every night and getting caught over and over is a cry for help, for goodness sake. Getting caught seems to be the point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I understand that the police are frustrated but I fail to see how charging the kid would help. A twelve year old breaking into car dealerships every night and getting caught over and over is a cry for help, for goodness sake. Getting caught seems to be the point.

It's an indictment of surrounding community. We need to find a way to charge everyone in that community for failing to raise that young mind. Perhaps double or triple their taxes for a few years. We could use that money to pay school administrators to look for new teachers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I understand that the police are frustrated but I fail to see how charging the kid would help. A twelve year old breaking into car dealerships every night and getting caught over and over is a cry for help, for goodness sake. Getting caught seems to be the point.

It's an indictment of surrounding community. We need to find a way to charge everyone in that community for failing to raise that young mind. Perhaps double or triple their taxes for a few years. We could use that money to pay school administrators to look for new teachers

Double the taxes of people who don’t pay taxes? You don’t seem to know much at all about the people you are describing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I understand that the police are frustrated but I fail to see how charging the kid would help. A twelve year old breaking into car dealerships every night and getting caught over and over is a cry for help, for goodness sake. Getting caught seems to be the point.

The juvenile justice system doesn't charge. These acts aren't considered crimes. They are delinquent acts that "would" be crimes if committed by an adult. That's why juvenile records are sealed and don't follow kids when they become adults. The kids get referred for services. It's one of the few ways to at least try to get help for kids.

Some kids end up detained but the vast majority go home to their parents. The courts develop a treatment service plan to help habilitate or rehabilitate if needed.

The system is not very effective but at its heart, it's trying to help the offenders make better choices. It's not meant to be punitive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I understand that the police are frustrated but I fail to see how charging the kid would help. A twelve year old breaking into car dealerships every night and getting caught over and over is a cry for help, for goodness sake. Getting caught seems to be the point.

The juvenile justice system doesn't charge. These acts aren't considered crimes. They are delinquent acts that "would" be crimes if committed by an adult. That's why juvenile records are sealed and don't follow kids when they become adults. The kids get referred for services. It's one of the few ways to at least try to get help for kids.

Some kids end up detained but the vast majority go home to their parents. The courts develop a treatment service plan to help habilitate or rehabilitate if needed.

The system is not very effective but at its heart, it's trying to help the offenders make better choices. It's not meant to be punitive.

It's time for a 2 strikes punitive stance this rehabilitation isn't working we need them to fear being a criminal and the parents too

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I understand that the police are frustrated but I fail to see how charging the kid would help. A twelve year old breaking into car dealerships every night and getting caught over and over is a cry for help, for goodness sake. Getting caught seems to be the point.

The juvenile justice system doesn't charge. These acts aren't considered crimes. They are delinquent acts that "would" be crimes if committed by an adult. That's why juvenile records are sealed and don't follow kids when they become adults. The kids get referred for services. It's one of the few ways to at least try to get help for kids.

Some kids end up detained but the vast majority go home to their parents. The courts develop a treatment service plan to help habilitate or rehabilitate if needed.

The system is not very effective but at its heart, it's trying to help the offenders make better choices. It's not meant to be punitive.

It's time for a 2 strikes punitive stance this rehabilitation isn't working we need them to fear being a criminal and the parents too

Poverty and neglect have these kids so full of trauma and rage that they don't even fear death. We desperately need to build more RTCs to help them before it's too late.

[Anonymous]

And the 12 year olds are recruiting 9 and 10 year olds, by the way. The 12 year olds are being groomed by grown criminal men while the parents either work night shifts or go out and party.

[Anonymous]

Lock him up!

[Anonymous]

If it’s a consolation, this idiotic policy basically kills “ambitious” Gov. Moore’s Presidential hopes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, they are going to change the laws to accommodate one 12-year who steals cars? It doesn't sound like it's that much of a problem if there's only one single person at that age stealing cars.

He's the one who made the news. The news organizations around here suck. Not the reporters' faults. They don't get paid the way they used to. But almost nothing that's happening in the community makes the news anymore.

Did you see the press release about the IRS, Homeland Security, and MCPD working together to break up the shoplifting ring? A bunch of "boosters" were stealing stuff from stores here and selling it to three people in Hyattsville. Those three were adults. The boosters are all kids.

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=46162

They didn’t explicitly say but these were Venezuelans. They had a similar enterprise using kids to steal and commit crime in Times Square operating out of migrant shelter hotels.

This isn’t 1975, there are no chop shops. You basically can’t resell a stolen car except maybe to someone who is going to use it for three hours to commit a different crime. Kids in DC steal cars for a thrill and to get around. It’s really hard to steal cars now - that’s why this kid is breaking into dealerships, because he needs the keys. And that’s why there was a huge spike in carjacking, which has thankfully subsided.

Kids shoplifting - yes, they may be part of a big fencing operation. But not kids stealing cars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If it’s a consolation, this idiotic policy basically kills “ambitious” Gov. Moore’s Presidential hopes.

Thank you. It is consoling. The DNC shouldn’t even try any Moore; Yet another DNC hopeful nobody really knows with a conveniently fabricated background. They better come up with somebody we’ve known from the trenches.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I understand that the police are frustrated but I fail to see how charging the kid would help. A twelve year old breaking into car dealerships every night and getting caught over and over is a cry for help, for goodness sake. Getting caught seems to be the point.

The juvenile justice system doesn't charge. These acts aren't considered crimes. They are delinquent acts that "would" be crimes if committed by an adult. That's why juvenile records are sealed and don't follow kids when they become adults. The kids get referred for services. It's one of the few ways to at least try to get help for kids.

Some kids end up detained but the vast majority go home to their parents. The courts develop a treatment service plan to help habilitate or rehabilitate if needed.

The system is not very effective but at its heart, it's trying to help the offenders make better choices. It's not meant to be punitive.

It should be more punitive. These kids are bad apples!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If it’s a consolation, this idiotic policy basically kills “ambitious” Gov. Moore’s Presidential hopes.

Nope, Moore is the one leading the way to fix Hogan's mistakes.

https://marylandmatters.org/2024/05/16/moore-signs-bills-to-tighten-juvenile-justice-expand-gun-safety-measures/

https://foxbaltimore.com/fox45-mornings/gov-wes-moore-weighs-in-on-new-juvenile-crime-laws
https://governor.maryland.gov/news/press/pages/governor-moore-orders-review-of-information-sharing-procedures-for-youth-charged-or-convicted-of-violent-crime-authorizes-i.aspx