Data Analysts - Where are you? (CAPE)

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting data.

If you look at 10th grade, after kids have been at charters for a few years and at magnet high schools for a year or so, it is clear that BASIS DC is crushing it. Even though BASIS DC is 100% lottery, it has a higher percentage at 4+ than even selective magnet schools such as Walls and Banneker:

10th grade 4+ scores

BASIS DC

ELA >95.0
Math 89.2

Walls

ELA 95.4
Math 40.9

Banneker

ELA 91.8
Math 46.1

J-R

ELA 66.3
Math 11.3

Latin

ELA 65.9
Math<10.0

DCI

ELA 36.2
Math 6.3

Wow-impressive numbers.

Schools other than BASIS are surprisingly bad at teaching math and DCI seems to get worse as kids get older.

Why are 10th graders even taking a math CAPE at BASIS? My DCPS 10th grader took AP math (and scored a 5). She didn’t take CAPE because the highest CAPE is for Algebra 2.

BASIS has the kids take the math CAPE theoretically appropriate for their grade level rather than the class the kids are actually taking. It's sort of an apples to orange comparison between schools. That said, BASIS' absolute numbers are extremely good and that matters too/more for parents actually considering it.

BASIS had its 10th graders take the Algebra I PARCC. Since when is Algebra I “theoretically appropriate” for 10th grade?

No dog in this fight but that is absurd and yes, cooking the books

+100. Totally and just ignore because they are basically manipulating the data to their advantage. It’s somewhat unethical. Kids should take the PARCC in the course they are taking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting data.

If you look at 10th grade, after kids have been at charters for a few years and at magnet high schools for a year or so, it is clear that BASIS DC is crushing it. Even though BASIS DC is 100% lottery, it has a higher percentage at 4+ than even selective magnet schools such as Walls and Banneker:

10th grade 4+ scores

BASIS DC

ELA >95.0
Math 89.2

Walls

ELA 95.4
Math 40.9

Banneker

ELA 91.8
Math 46.1

J-R

ELA 66.3
Math 11.3

Latin

ELA 65.9
Math<10.0

DCI

ELA 36.2
Math 6.3

Wow-impressive numbers.

Schools other than BASIS are surprisingly bad at teaching math and DCI seems to get worse as kids get older.

Why are 10th graders even taking a math CAPE at BASIS? My DCPS 10th grader took AP math (and scored a 5). She didn’t take CAPE because the highest CAPE is for Algebra 2.

BASIS has the kids take the math CAPE theoretically appropriate for their grade level rather than the class the kids are actually taking. It's sort of an apples to orange comparison between schools. That said, BASIS' absolute numbers are extremely good and that matters too/more for parents actually considering it.

BASIS had its 10th graders take the Algebra I PARCC. Since when is Algebra I “theoretically appropriate” for 10th grade?

No dog in this fight but that is absurd and yes, cooking the books

+100. Totally and just ignore because they are basically manipulating the data to their advantage. It’s somewhat unethical. Kids should take the PARCC in the course they are taking.

They take algebra and geometry in 7th grade.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting data.

If you look at 10th grade, after kids have been at charters for a few years and at magnet high schools for a year or so, it is clear that BASIS DC is crushing it. Even though BASIS DC is 100% lottery, it has a higher percentage at 4+ than even selective magnet schools such as Walls and Banneker:

10th grade 4+ scores

BASIS DC

ELA >95.0
Math 89.2

Walls

ELA 95.4
Math 40.9

Banneker

ELA 91.8
Math 46.1

J-R

ELA 66.3
Math 11.3

Latin

ELA 65.9
Math<10.0

DCI

ELA 36.2
Math 6.3

Wow-impressive numbers.

Schools other than BASIS are surprisingly bad at teaching math and DCI seems to get worse as kids get older.

Why are 10th graders even taking a math CAPE at BASIS? My DCPS 10th grader took AP math (and scored a 5). She didn’t take CAPE because the highest CAPE is for Algebra 2.

BASIS has the kids take the math CAPE theoretically appropriate for their grade level rather than the class the kids are actually taking. It's sort of an apples to orange comparison between schools. That said, BASIS' absolute numbers are extremely good and that matters too/more for parents actually considering it.

BASIS had its 10th graders take the Algebra I PARCC. Since when is Algebra I “theoretically appropriate” for 10th grade?

No dog in this fight but that is absurd and yes, cooking the books

+100. Totally and just ignore because they are basically manipulating the data to their advantage. It’s somewhat unethical. Kids should take the PARCC in the course they are taking.

Butt hurt much?

lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting what a mixed bag this data is. I haven't really dug into this in an organized way, but just to flag a few outliers:

Two Rivers, ouch. Especially Young ES!
Yu Ying, OUCH.
Lee, ouch.
Shining Stars even worse in both
Roots big drop in both
Ouch to McKinely Tech.
Ouch to LaSalle-Backus
Ouch to Langley
Harmony even worse in both
Ouch to Cap City and ELHaynes high schools.

Mixed results at Friendship and KIPP.

Well done to Marie Reed, Moten, Powell, Phelps, Paul HS, Patterson, Mundo Calle Ocho, JOW, Height, Cleveland, Banneker. A lot of schools are very little changed.

Eagle Academy really shockingly bad scores, explains a lot.

As a YY parent, they must have had a preview of this with the admin changes they made, but there’s extreme cross pressures from parents and staff to find the proper balance between equity and, well, excellence. I think they’ve shaded a little far towards equity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting data.

If you look at 10th grade, after kids have been at charters for a few years and at magnet high schools for a year or so, it is clear that BASIS DC is crushing it. Even though BASIS DC is 100% lottery, it has a higher percentage at 4+ than even selective magnet schools such as Walls and Banneker:

10th grade 4+ scores

BASIS DC

ELA >95.0
Math 89.2

Walls

ELA 95.4
Math 40.9

Banneker

ELA 91.8
Math 46.1

J-R

ELA 66.3
Math 11.3

Latin

ELA 65.9
Math<10.0

DCI

ELA 36.2
Math 6.3

Wow-impressive numbers.

Schools other than BASIS are surprisingly bad at teaching math and DCI seems to get worse as kids get older.

Why are 10th graders even taking a math CAPE at BASIS? My DCPS 10th grader took AP math (and scored a 5). She didn’t take CAPE because the highest CAPE is for Algebra 2.

BASIS has the kids take the math CAPE theoretically appropriate for their grade level rather than the class the kids are actually taking. It's sort of an apples to orange comparison between schools. That said, BASIS' absolute numbers are extremely good and that matters too/more for parents actually considering it.

BASIS had its 10th graders take the Algebra I PARCC. Since when is Algebra I “theoretically appropriate” for 10th grade?

No dog in this fight but that is absurd and yes, cooking the books

+100. Totally and just ignore because they are basically manipulating the data to their advantage. It’s somewhat unethical. Kids should take the PARCC in the course they are taking.

Butt hurt much?

lol

Is there a good reason for kids in calculus to take the PARCC (or whatever it’s called now). Feels like a waste of valuable class time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting data.

If you look at 10th grade, after kids have been at charters for a few years and at magnet high schools for a year or so, it is clear that BASIS DC is crushing it. Even though BASIS DC is 100% lottery, it has a higher percentage at 4+ than even selective magnet schools such as Walls and Banneker:

10th grade 4+ scores

BASIS DC

ELA >95.0
Math 89.2

Walls

ELA 95.4
Math 40.9

Banneker

ELA 91.8
Math 46.1

J-R

ELA 66.3
Math 11.3

Latin

ELA 65.9
Math<10.0

DCI

ELA 36.2
Math 6.3

Wow-impressive numbers.

Schools other than BASIS are surprisingly bad at teaching math and DCI seems to get worse as kids get older.

Why are 10th graders even taking a math CAPE at BASIS? My DCPS 10th grader took AP math (and scored a 5). She didn’t take CAPE because the highest CAPE is for Algebra 2.

BASIS has the kids take the math CAPE theoretically appropriate for their grade level rather than the class the kids are actually taking. It's sort of an apples to orange comparison between schools. That said, BASIS' absolute numbers are extremely good and that matters too/more for parents actually considering it.

BASIS had its 10th graders take the Algebra I PARCC. Since when is Algebra I “theoretically appropriate” for 10th grade?

No dog in this fight but that is absurd and yes, cooking the books

+100. Totally and just ignore because they are basically manipulating the data to their advantage. It’s somewhat unethical. Kids should take the PARCC in the course they are taking.

They take algebra and geometry in 7th grade.

+1. They should double up and take the algebra and geometry PARCC in 7th grade? That makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting data.

If you look at 10th grade, after kids have been at charters for a few years and at magnet high schools for a year or so, it is clear that BASIS DC is crushing it. Even though BASIS DC is 100% lottery, it has a higher percentage at 4+ than even selective magnet schools such as Walls and Banneker:

10th grade 4+ scores

BASIS DC

ELA >95.0
Math 89.2

Walls

ELA 95.4
Math 40.9

Banneker

ELA 91.8
Math 46.1

J-R

ELA 66.3
Math 11.3

Latin

ELA 65.9
Math<10.0

DCI

ELA 36.2
Math 6.3

Wow-impressive numbers.

Schools other than BASIS are surprisingly bad at teaching math and DCI seems to get worse as kids get older.

Why are 10th graders even taking a math CAPE at BASIS? My DCPS 10th grader took AP math (and scored a 5). She didn’t take CAPE because the highest CAPE is for Algebra 2.

BASIS has the kids take the math CAPE theoretically appropriate for their grade level rather than the class the kids are actually taking. It's sort of an apples to orange comparison between schools. That said, BASIS' absolute numbers are extremely good and that matters too/more for parents actually considering it.

BASIS had its 10th graders take the Algebra I PARCC. Since when is Algebra I “theoretically appropriate” for 10th grade?

No dog in this fight but that is absurd and yes, cooking the books

+100. Totally and just ignore because they are basically manipulating the data to their advantage. It’s somewhat unethical. Kids should take the PARCC in the course they are taking.

They have 10 graders taking Algebra 1 PARCC? My kid took that in 6th grade??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting data.

If you look at 10th grade, after kids have been at charters for a few years and at magnet high schools for a year or so, it is clear that BASIS DC is crushing it. Even though BASIS DC is 100% lottery, it has a higher percentage at 4+ than even selective magnet schools such as Walls and Banneker:

10th grade 4+ scores

BASIS DC

ELA >95.0
Math 89.2

Walls

ELA 95.4
Math 40.9

Banneker

ELA 91.8
Math 46.1

J-R

ELA 66.3
Math 11.3

Latin

ELA 65.9
Math<10.0

DCI

ELA 36.2
Math 6.3

Wow-impressive numbers.

Schools other than BASIS are surprisingly bad at teaching math and DCI seems to get worse as kids get older.

Why are 10th graders even taking a math CAPE at BASIS? My DCPS 10th grader took AP math (and scored a 5). She didn’t take CAPE because the highest CAPE is for Algebra 2.

BASIS has the kids take the math CAPE theoretically appropriate for their grade level rather than the class the kids are actually taking. It's sort of an apples to orange comparison between schools. That said, BASIS' absolute numbers are extremely good and that matters too/more for parents actually considering it.

BASIS had its 10th graders take the Algebra I PARCC. Since when is Algebra I “theoretically appropriate” for 10th grade?

No dog in this fight but that is absurd and yes, cooking the books

+100. Totally and just ignore because they are basically manipulating the data to their advantage. It’s somewhat unethical. Kids should take the PARCC in the course they are taking.

They have 10 graders taking Algebra 1 PARCC? My kid took that in 6th grade??

Well, BASIS doesn’t but some schools in DC do. Dunbar doesn’t even offer AP Calc AB

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting data.

If you look at 10th grade, after kids have been at charters for a few years and at magnet high schools for a year or so, it is clear that BASIS DC is crushing it. Even though BASIS DC is 100% lottery, it has a higher percentage at 4+ than even selective magnet schools such as Walls and Banneker:

10th grade 4+ scores

BASIS DC

ELA >95.0
Math 89.2

Walls

ELA 95.4
Math 40.9

Banneker

ELA 91.8
Math 46.1

J-R

ELA 66.3
Math 11.3

Latin

ELA 65.9
Math<10.0

DCI

ELA 36.2
Math 6.3

Wow-impressive numbers.

Schools other than BASIS are surprisingly bad at teaching math and DCI seems to get worse as kids get older.

Why are 10th graders even taking a math CAPE at BASIS? My DCPS 10th grader took AP math (and scored a 5). She didn’t take CAPE because the highest CAPE is for Algebra 2.

BASIS has the kids take the math CAPE theoretically appropriate for their grade level rather than the class the kids are actually taking. It's sort of an apples to orange comparison between schools. That said, BASIS' absolute numbers are extremely good and that matters too/more for parents actually considering it.

BASIS had its 10th graders take the Algebra I PARCC. Since when is Algebra I “theoretically appropriate” for 10th grade?

No dog in this fight but that is absurd and yes, cooking the books

+100. Totally and just ignore because they are basically manipulating the data to their advantage. It’s somewhat unethical. Kids should take the PARCC in the course they are taking.

They have 10 graders taking Algebra 1 PARCC? My kid took that in 6th grade??

Well, BASIS doesn’t but some schools in DC do. Dunbar doesn’t even offer AP Calc AB

Well, someone on here said yes, that Basis had their 10 graders take Algebra 1 PARCC. Either you or they are lying. Which is it?

[Anonymous]

Since algebra and geometry are covered to some extent on the SAT test that high schoolers take, why wouldn’t taking the CAPE (or PARCC) test in those subjects be a beneficial practice/refresher for students who are further ahead in math subjects at school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh wow, they got that up fast. Well done!

Last year I don't think these posted until October? Way faster.

They were also posted in August last year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Middle schools with 10 or more students passing the Geometry CAPE:

Latin - 35
DCI - 18
Deal - data suppressed, >95%
Hardy - data suppressed, >95%

Middle schools with 10 or more students passing the Algebra 1 CAPE:

Deal - 247
Hardy - 85
MacFarland - 33
Oyster-Adams - 32
Latin - 32
Stuart-Hobson - 30
Eliot-Hine - 27
DC Prep Edgewood - 23
ITDS - 23
DC Prep Benning - 18
Two Rivers - 18
Wells - 12
Jefferson - 12
CHEC - 12
Francis-Stevens - 11

Why are the data points for Deal and Hardy suppressed for geometry?

I am one of the analysts who worked on the data we use the following policy to suppress the data
https://osse.dc.gov/page/student-privacy-and-data-suppression-policy-glance

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since algebra and geometry are covered to some extent on the SAT test that high schoolers take, why wouldn’t taking the CAPE (or PARCC) test in those subjects be a beneficial practice/refresher for students who are further ahead in math subjects at school?

You are totally missing the point which is that other schools are not having their students take PARCC subjects that the kids did years before.

If Basis 10th graders are taking Algebra 1 PARCC while kids at other schools in advance math are not taking PARCC at all because they are past the math subjects on PARCC, then of course the Basis scores will be much higher and it’s not a similar comparison at all.

[Anonymous]

I'm not bothered by the basis kids scoring well on material at their grade level because they are so far ahead of grade level. Make they're cooking the books somehow, but that's not what this is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not bothered by the basis kids scoring well on material at their grade level because they are so far ahead of grade level. Make they're cooking the books somehow, but that's not what this is.

*Maybe