Data Analysts - Where are you? (CAPE)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting data.

If you look at 10th grade, after kids have been at charters for a few years and at magnet high schools for a year or so, it is clear that BASIS DC is crushing it. Even though BASIS DC is 100% lottery, it has a higher percentage at 4+ than even selective magnet schools such as Walls and Banneker:

10th grade 4+ scores

BASIS DC

ELA >95.0
Math 89.2

Walls

ELA 95.4
Math 40.9

Banneker

ELA 91.8
Math 46.1

J-R

ELA 66.3
Math 11.3

Latin

ELA 65.9
Math <10.0

DCI

ELA 36.2
Math 6.3

Stop with your 100% lottery BS. The test to get into BASIS upper grades is the 6th grade comps.

And BASiS makes kids take the PARCC for a lower math than they're actually studying, that's how they get those scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Middle schools with 10 or more students passing the Geometry CAPE:

Latin - 35
DCI - 18
Deal - data suppressed, >95%
Hardy - data suppressed, >95%

Middle schools with 10 or more students passing the Algebra 1 CAPE:

Deal - 247
Hardy - 85
MacFarland - 33
Oyster-Adams - 32
Latin - 32
Stuart-Hobson - 30
Eliot-Hine - 27
DC Prep Edgewood - 23
ITDS - 23
DC Prep Benning - 18
Two Rivers - 18
Wells - 12
Jefferson - 12
CHEC - 12
Francis-Stevens - 11

Why are the data points for Deal and Hardy suppressed for geometry?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting data.

If you look at 10th grade, after kids have been at charters for a few years and at magnet high schools for a year or so, it is clear that BASIS DC is crushing it. Even though BASIS DC is 100% lottery, it has a higher percentage at 4+ than even selective magnet schools such as Walls and Banneker:

10th grade 4+ scores

BASIS DC

ELA >95.0
Math 89.2

Walls

ELA 95.4
Math 40.9

Banneker

ELA 91.8
Math 46.1

J-R

ELA 66.3
Math 11.3

Latin

ELA 65.9
Math<10.0

DCI

ELA 36.2
Math 6.3

Wow-impressive numbers.

Schools other than BASIS are surprisingly bad at teaching math and DCI seems to get worse as kids get older.

Why are 10th graders even taking a math CAPE at BASIS? My DCPS 10th grader took AP math (and scored a 5). She didn’t take CAPE because the highest CAPE is for Algebra 2.

BASIS has the kids take the math CAPE theoretically appropriate for their grade level rather than the class the kids are actually taking. It's sort of an apples to orange comparison between schools. That said, BASIS' absolute numbers are extremely good and that matters too/more for parents actually considering it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Middle schools with 10 or more students passing the Geometry CAPE:

Latin - 35
DCI - 18
Deal - data suppressed, >95%
Hardy - data suppressed, >95%

Middle schools with 10 or more students passing the Algebra 1 CAPE:

Deal - 247
Hardy - 85
MacFarland - 33
Oyster-Adams - 32
Latin - 32
Stuart-Hobson - 30
Eliot-Hine - 27
DC Prep Edgewood - 23
ITDS - 23
DC Prep Benning - 18
Two Rivers - 18
Wells - 12
Jefferson - 12
CHEC - 12
Francis-Stevens - 11

Why are the data points for Deal and Hardy suppressed for geometry?

Less than 10 kids gets suppressed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Big improvement at Two Rivers, all campuses.

Slight dip at ITDS.

I don't mean this as a jab to Two Rivers, just want to make sure I am looking at site correctly. I went to the EmpowerEd site, and sorted by performance of 'all students'. When I sorted by school, it looked like they dropped 2-4% from last year's scores, and a range of 3-21% less than pre-pandemic. Again, not judging that school at all, and I think the emphasis on these tests is not the best way to use our energy. But just wanted to ask if I was looking at that data incorrectly before I started looking at other data.

It's totally possible that I'm doing it wrong. You have to be really careful looking at all the subgroups and it's easy to mess it up.

Not PP but it automatically sets to at risk group so you need to change drop down to all students.

IMO that is the strongest way to interpret these test results. If a school improves its scores bc the demographics shift and they have more affluent kids it doesn't mean as much to me. Schools that do the best job at chipping away at the achievement gap should be celebrated the most.

I have a high achieving kid and could care less about the at risk. It doesn’t apply to my kid.

I absolutely care about the percentages of kids performing at or above grade level. The huger the better and I don’t care what SES level the kids are. It means content can actually be taught at grade level as your floor.

Feel free to send your kid with 70% plus below grade level but I won’t be.

Interesting. For my high achieving ES kid, I look at the data that matches them demographically (white & non-economically disadvantaged); as long as the data can be reported, there are at least 10 students in that category, which is enough for multiple small groups that appropriate content can be taught to if there's a solid pass rate (especially considering kids from other demographic groups obviously add on too). I also look at the percentage of 5s in those categories. That shows whether the school is actually teaching the capable kids or just letting them coast and focusing only on those behind. For what it's worth, I totally understand why a school would do that, but if a school with a reportable number of UMC white kids isn't getting any 5s, it's because they aren't trying to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Middle schools with 10 or more students passing the Geometry CAPE:

Latin - 35
DCI - 18
Deal - data suppressed, >95%
Hardy - data suppressed, >95%

Middle schools with 10 or more students passing the Algebra 1 CAPE:

Deal - 247
Hardy - 85
MacFarland - 33
Oyster-Adams - 32
Latin - 32
Stuart-Hobson - 30
Eliot-Hine - 27
DC Prep Edgewood - 23
ITDS - 23
DC Prep Benning - 18
Two Rivers - 18
Wells - 12
Jefferson - 12
CHEC - 12
Francis-Stevens - 11

Why are the data points for Deal and Hardy suppressed for geometry?

Less than 10 kids gets suppressed.

Incorrect. n<10 means that there are less than 10 kids so the data can't be reported. DS means there ARE enough kids to report but they don't because it would -- or would when combined with other available data -- identify individual kids too much. It often happens whether there is 1 kid who passes or fails something in a subgroup.

[Anonymous]

^^ It often happens *when* there is 1 kid who passes or fails something in a subgroup... or none. They will sometimes report as >90% or >95% so you don't know if it's every kid or every minus 1. At the other end of the spectrum, you'll often see <10% for the same reason.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting data.

If you look at 10th grade, after kids have been at charters for a few years and at magnet high schools for a year or so, it is clear that BASIS DC is crushing it. Even though BASIS DC is 100% lottery, it has a higher percentage at 4+ than even selective magnet schools such as Walls and Banneker:

10th grade 4+ scores

BASIS DC

ELA >95.0
Math 89.2

Walls

ELA 95.4
Math 40.9

Banneker

ELA 91.8
Math 46.1

J-R

ELA 66.3
Math 11.3

Latin

ELA 65.9
Math<10.0

DCI

ELA 36.2
Math 6.3

Wow-impressive numbers.

Schools other than BASIS are surprisingly bad at teaching math and DCI seems to get worse as kids get older.

Why are 10th graders even taking a math CAPE at BASIS? My DCPS 10th grader took AP math (and scored a 5). She didn’t take CAPE because the highest CAPE is for Algebra 2.

BASIS has the kids take the math CAPE theoretically appropriate for their grade level rather than the class the kids are actually taking. It's sort of an apples to orange comparison between schools. That said, BASIS' absolute numbers are extremely good and that matters too/more for parents actually considering it.

BASIS had its 10th graders take the Algebra I PARCC. Since when is Algebra I “theoretically appropriate” for 10th grade?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting data.

If you look at 10th grade, after kids have been at charters for a few years and at magnet high schools for a year or so, it is clear that BASIS DC is crushing it. Even though BASIS DC is 100% lottery, it has a higher percentage at 4+ than even selective magnet schools such as Walls and Banneker:

10th grade 4+ scores

BASIS DC

ELA >95.0
Math 89.2

Walls

ELA 95.4
Math 40.9

Banneker

ELA 91.8
Math 46.1

J-R

ELA 66.3
Math 11.3

Latin

ELA 65.9
Math<10.0

DCI

ELA 36.2
Math 6.3

Wow-impressive numbers.

Schools other than BASIS are surprisingly bad at teaching math and DCI seems to get worse as kids get older.

Why are 10th graders even taking a math CAPE at BASIS? My DCPS 10th grader took AP math (and scored a 5). She didn’t take CAPE because the highest CAPE is for Algebra 2.

BASIS has the kids take the math CAPE theoretically appropriate for their grade level rather than the class the kids are actually taking. It's sort of an apples to orange comparison between schools. That said, BASIS' absolute numbers are extremely good and that matters too/more for parents actually considering it.

BASIS had its 10th graders take the Algebra I PARCC. Since when is Algebra I “theoretically appropriate” for 10th grade?

There is no Calc BC PARCC. Who cares?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting data.

If you look at 10th grade, after kids have been at charters for a few years and at magnet high schools for a year or so, it is clear that BASIS DC is crushing it. Even though BASIS DC is 100% lottery, it has a higher percentage at 4+ than even selective magnet schools such as Walls and Banneker:

10th grade 4+ scores

BASIS DC

ELA >95.0
Math 89.2

Walls

ELA 95.4
Math 40.9

Banneker

ELA 91.8
Math 46.1

J-R

ELA 66.3
Math 11.3

Latin

ELA 65.9
Math<10.0

DCI

ELA 36.2
Math 6.3

Wow-impressive numbers.

Schools other than BASIS are surprisingly bad at teaching math and DCI seems to get worse as kids get older.

Why are 10th graders even taking a math CAPE at BASIS? My DCPS 10th grader took AP math (and scored a 5). She didn’t take CAPE because the highest CAPE is for Algebra 2.

BASIS has the kids take the math CAPE theoretically appropriate for their grade level rather than the class the kids are actually taking. It's sort of an apples to orange comparison between schools. That said, BASIS' absolute numbers are extremely good and that matters too/more for parents actually considering it.

BASIS had its 10th graders take the Algebra I PARCC. Since when is Algebra I “theoretically appropriate” for 10th grade?

There is no Calc BC PARCC. Who cares?

Whoever’s cooking the books at BASIS cares, obviously.

[Anonymous]

I'm not seeing data for MacArthur. Is that correct? Why not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting data.

If you look at 10th grade, after kids have been at charters for a few years and at magnet high schools for a year or so, it is clear that BASIS DC is crushing it. Even though BASIS DC is 100% lottery, it has a higher percentage at 4+ than even selective magnet schools such as Walls and Banneker:

10th grade 4+ scores

BASIS DC

ELA >95.0
Math 89.2

Walls

ELA 95.4
Math 40.9

Banneker

ELA 91.8
Math 46.1

J-R

ELA 66.3
Math 11.3

Latin

ELA 65.9
Math<10.0

DCI

ELA 36.2
Math 6.3

Wow-impressive numbers.

Schools other than BASIS are surprisingly bad at teaching math and DCI seems to get worse as kids get older.

Why are 10th graders even taking a math CAPE at BASIS? My DCPS 10th grader took AP math (and scored a 5). She didn’t take CAPE because the highest CAPE is for Algebra 2.

BASIS has the kids take the math CAPE theoretically appropriate for their grade level rather than the class the kids are actually taking. It's sort of an apples to orange comparison between schools. That said, BASIS' absolute numbers are extremely good and that matters too/more for parents actually considering it.

BASIS had its 10th graders take the Algebra I PARCC. Since when is Algebra I “theoretically appropriate” for 10th grade?

No dog in this fight but that is absurd and yes, cooking the books

[Anonymous]

It's interesting what a mixed bag this data is. I haven't really dug into this in an organized way, but just to flag a few outliers:

Two Rivers, ouch. Especially Young ES!
Yu Ying, OUCH.
Lee, ouch.
Shining Stars even worse in both
Roots big drop in both
Ouch to McKinely Tech.
Ouch to LaSalle-Backus
Ouch to Langley
Harmony even worse in both
Ouch to Cap City and ELHaynes high schools.

Mixed results at Friendship and KIPP.

Well done to Marie Reed, Moten, Powell, Phelps, Paul HS, Patterson, Mundo Calle Ocho, JOW, Height, Cleveland, Banneker. A lot of schools are very little changed.

Eagle Academy really shockingly bad scores, explains a lot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not seeing data for MacArthur. Is that correct? Why not?

Weird that it's not there. It's also odd how some schools have only math or ELA listed, not both.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not seeing data for MacArthur. Is that correct? Why not?

Weird that it's not there. It's also odd how some schools have only math or ELA listed, not both.

Depending on what data you’re looking at, lots of schools have some suppressed data… You may be able to find something similar by looking at a slightly different category or 3+ v 4+.