NP. I don’t “looking that closely.” But DD noticed. She visited a friend over the summer who didn’t shave anything. The girl’s un shaved armpits were almost immediately noticeable. And DD also noticed when she went to the pool with her friend. Besides the girl’s un-shaved legs, there was some rather noticeable hair sticking out of her bathing suit. Maybe you or your child really like that look; you do you. DD found it really odd and she will continue shaving like most of her friends do. |
Great, so everybody wins! Your DD can groom herself the way she prefers and the other girls can, too. There’s no need to make this a big deal. Just because your DD noticed hair doesn’t make it bad or wrong. |
Gross. Have fun with your spinster kid and no grandkids. |
That comment was directed at someone who said she could tell no one on a crowded beach had gone unshaven, not your child who spent the day with a friend. |
Um, she spent a week, not a day, but whatever, and At our swim club in NOVA, all the girls are wearing (shocker): swimwear. As has been mentioned, with some of the blond teens, I probably wouldn’t even notice. But our club is diverse; hairy legs, and especially unshaven arm pits would be very noticeable on a girl. It only takes a glance to notice. They all shave. Maybe these enormous groups of unshaven teen girls actually exist somewhere, but it’s not NOVA. Probably more of a Takoma Park phenomenon. |
I’m having an absolute ball raising a confident young woman. Get out of the cul-de-sac once in a while. It’s a big world out there. |
There it is. Out of state, not local. What’s currently the trend locally is not in other parts. I am currently out of state too and noticed the teen girls dress very different than the ones back home. I agree, I don’t see anyone not shaven like my daughter. I also don’t see any butt cheeks hanging out of shorts like we do everywhere at home. The girls seem more covered. Different areas, different styles. |
This. But in general I’ve realized that DCUM does not reflect real life. |
I travel regularly. And I’m happy to report that the “big world” out there is not nearly as hairy as you’d have everyone believe. Thank goodness! |
| Omg you are all pathetic. Let girls do what they want and stop judging either way. This thread is embarrassing. Moms judging kids is disgusting. Raising terrible humans by example. Do better! |
| I just asked my 16 yo if she knows literally anyone who doesn’t shave and she said no. And she looked at me like my question was weird. |
Or maybe it's not at swim clubs. My daughter is among the non-shavers. She doesn't wear sleeveless tops or bikinis. Her swimwear is a two-piece boy-cut shorts bottom and long sleeved swim shirt. She more-often-than-not wears pants. On the occasions she does wear shorts or dresses, she bares her hairy legs. She was born and is being raised in Arlington. Last I was aware, that's very much northern Virginia. Maybe it's "enormous groups" and maybe it isn't - maybe you just don't notice because a lot of them (1) aren't wearing clothes revealing those areas and/or (2) you aren't close-up enough to notice and/or (3) girls aren't grouping theselves together by hair levels and a large group of hairy girls don't stand out. I cringe at my daughter's unshaven look because it isn't the society I grew up in. She's very light skinned with darker hair, making it even worse IMO. However, it's surprisingly not that strikingly noticeable from several feet away - or at least not as noticeable as I always fear - when she wears a dress. Regardless, she's 17. If she hasn't felt embarrassed or ashamed or humiliated or made-fun-of or even had any friend say something to her by this point, it clearly isn't an issue. We're in a very diverse area and not all cultures or all countries partake in the women-must-shave-all-their-skin norms of this country. Maybe when she goes to college and is surrounded by more uppity, upper-class white girls she will have a different reception. For now, I admire her self-assuredness and her strong, independent, no-double-standard-for-women attitude. Even if someone (other than me) did say something to her, she wouldn't care. She is confident in show she is and how she looks and does not believe she should have to shave just because she's a girl or just because everyone else does. And on that, I say good for her! |
+1 Heaven forbid a change in norms. Like women wearing pants. Or women working outside the home. Or bucking the high heel or extreme pointed toe shoe fashions for more practicality and comfort. I don't see such judgement and criticism of strange hair colors or piercings or tattoos. But dare not to shave your bikini line? OMG! |
Yes,.that is the ultimate fear for you isn't it. You are pretty gross. |
Natural is apparently weird? What's weird is someone at some point in time suddenly having the idea that women should not have hair on their legs for some sense of fashion and sex appeal. Still, it became a new "norm." But the original "normal" is undeniably the natural hair growth on women. |