Vance vs Harris

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Anonymous wrote:JD Vance isn’t for funding the war in Ukraine and leading us to nuclear war or WW3 so that’s refreshing . He chose a non war hawk and someone who actually is a vet. Genius choice from Trump after the failed “suckers and losers” lie. I figure vets are less likely to be so war hawkish . Tulsi Gabbard is another vet who I hope he selects in his administration. She read Kamala so accurately the first time she provided a biting criticism as a retort . She said Kamalas laugh reveals low confidence, uncertainty . and discomfort and is used to soften her word salad and lack of ability to honestly communicate feelings and direction

JD is marine and a lawyer. He went to Yale law. He understands war.

Wasn't he in a journalist role?

Yes. He was a war correspondent and served six months in Iraq. He got a full ride scholarship to Yale.

The “elite coastal ivory tower expert” system did nothing but treat him unfairly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't Vance write the book that became a movie starring Amy Adams as his mom and Glenn Close as grandmaw or mee maw? Hillbilly Elegy?

Is the movie any good? I’ve neither watched it or read the book

The book is good. And it highlights an issue of a group of people who are forgotten and they have struggles.

If you’ve been to those areas you can see the poverty and lack of resources. It’s also the only group of people where it’s ok to be racist against them and it’s acceptable.

It’s a decent look at why these people liked Trump .

Vance is a good pick. He is literally the blue collar class of America that votes for Trump. He was in the Marine and made his own way . He’s young and he is what a lot of blue collar Americans are or want to be.

What’s even better, Trump one him over. He didn’t like him, and encase of that was on CNN and a darling on the media . When Trump was president and we had a great economy, massive growth and peace, that’s what won him over . It’s good to change your mind when you see the facts . He didn’t let the media and the press tell him what to think. He broke from the NOC mold to see Trump for what he is, and the MSM and democrats for what they are. Most liberals are still essentially just useful idiots and drones parroting the narratives. People like Vance aren’t fooled by that.

Trump isn’t hotter, he’s not a dictator, he’s not some personification of evil . He’s a guy with flaws who cares about his country . He’s a populist and doesn’t have time for the political elite or lobbyists. Most Americans don’t. They hate politicians, they hate the elite media class and the elite ivory tower rich class. They’re tired of the military industrial complex and their rich masters leading us into endless wars . They are tired of insecure borders and inflation. They don’t care about Ukraine or some war halfway across the world. They don’t care the “stock market is doing well”. They care if they can afford their utilities and groceries and that their kids aren’t being told they’re automatically rwcist jsit because they’re white and need to support the LGBTQLMNOP community. .

Vance doesn’t believe the Trump narratives. He literally called him America’s Hitler. He just is an attention whore and wants the power.

Vance doesn’t believe in anything but his own ambition. He’s a sell out stooge for venture capital sociopaths. Trump likes him because he has no conscience and is easily bought.

Exactly. Vance is interested in his personal advancement. When he advocates for eliminating federal assistance who will be damaged?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JD Vance isn’t for funding the war in Ukraine and leading us to nuclear war or WW3 so that’s refreshing . He chose a non war hawk and someone who actually is a vet. Genius choice from Trump after the failed “suckers and losers” lie. I figure vets are less likely to be so war hawkish . Tulsi Gabbard is another vet who I hope he selects in his administration. She read Kamala so accurately the first time she provided a biting criticism as a retort . She said Kamalas laugh reveals low confidence, uncertainty . and discomfort and is used to soften her word salad and lack of ability to honestly communicate feelings and direction

JD is marine and a lawyer. He went to Yale law. He understands war.

Wasn't he in a journalist role?

Yes. He was a war correspondent and served six months in Iraq. He got a full ride scholarship to Yale.

The “elite coastal ivory tower expert” system did nothing but treat him unfairly.

He didn’t “get” a full ride scholarship - he earned it for military service in a war zone.

Compared to the way most Ivy League losers got into their schools, Vance took a much harder path.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:JD Vance is an opportunist, which was apparent even at the time his book became popular, before he ever entered politics. He's a turncoat who despised Trump before he understood Trumpism was the way to more power and riches.

Harris is your regular politician, slightly corrupt like they all are, but by no means rotten.

However Biden can see his way to stepping aside now and letting Harris fight the good fight. With a centrist (or even conservative) VP as young as Vance, for good measure. I'd like Kinzinger.

Why would Biden step aside? Three days ago he said he was 100% committed, and the process had been decided. It was the will of the voters.


Why would he pull a sudden 180? And if he did, doesn’t that sort of prove he never should’ve been there at all?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The moderator is deleting the absolutely misogynistic racist scum comments that are supporting Vance. But these depraved posters are writing about supporting Vance. Make no mistake..they are for the GOP.

I generally support Vance, despite him being a never-Trumper early on. It’s not the choice I would’ve preferred, but Trump is gonna Trump. I hope he’s a better pick than Pence. Hopefully Trump learned something…. but Trump is gonna Trump.





Now, let me know which part of what I just said was the racist, depraved, misogynistic part….I’ll wait.

I don't think you know the meaning of those words. What is your post fits the definition any of them?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The moderator is deleting the absolutely misogynistic racist scum comments that are supporting Vance. But these depraved posters are writing about supporting Vance. Make no mistake..they are for the GOP.

I generally support Vance, despite him being a never-Trumper early on. It’s not the choice I would’ve preferred, but Trump is gonna Trump. I hope he’s a better pick than Pence. Hopefully Trump learned something…. but Trump is gonna Trump.





Now, let me know which part of what I just said was the racist, depraved, misogynistic part….I’ll wait.

You are who you associate with. If someone wants to associate with known racists, then I assume they at best, they are accepting of racists, if not actually one themselves.

Personally, I like my president and vice president to represent ALL Americans. Someone who thinks rape is acceptable and abortion is absolute is not representing of all Americans, they are representing a tiny minority and are chomping at the bit to impose their world view on the country.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JD Vance isn’t for funding the war in Ukraine and leading us to nuclear war or WW3 so that’s refreshing . He chose a non war hawk and someone who actually is a vet. Genius choice from Trump after the failed “suckers and losers” lie. I figure vets are less likely to be so war hawkish . Tulsi Gabbard is another vet who I hope he selects in his administration. She read Kamala so accurately the first time she provided a biting criticism as a retort . She said Kamalas laugh reveals low confidence, uncertainty . and discomfort and is used to soften her word salad and lack of ability to honestly communicate feelings and direction

JD is marine and a lawyer. He went to Yale law. He understands war.

Wasn't he in a journalist role?

Every United States Marine is an infantryman and rifleman, first and foremost, and everything else they do is secondary to that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The moderator is deleting the absolutely misogynistic racist scum comments that are supporting Vance. But these depraved posters are writing about supporting Vance. Make no mistake..they are for the GOP.

I generally support Vance, despite him being a never-Trumper early on. It’s not the choice I would’ve preferred, but Trump is gonna Trump. I hope he’s a better pick than Pence. Hopefully Trump learned something…. but Trump is gonna Trump.





Now, let me know which part of what I just said was the racist, depraved, misogynistic part….I’ll wait.

I don't think you know the meaning of those words. What is your post fits the definition any of them?

That was sorta my point, Hon.

[Anonymous]

So Vance is supportive of mafia loansharking

That is "helping the little guy"

(not)

[Anonymous]

I hope JD sings these positions from the mountaintops!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't Vance write the book that became a movie starring Amy Adams as his mom and Glenn Close as grandmaw or mee maw? Hillbilly Elegy?

Is the movie any good? I’ve neither watched it or read the book

The book was a bestseller. (I haven't read it but I've certainly heard of it.) It's a memoir - so people have complained about some inaccuracies or exaggerations, but they don't understand memoirs. Memoirs aren't autobiographies, they are the story of someone's life.

There is a lot of valid criticism of the book. He paints a broad brush, with lots of stereotypes, and blames people for standing in their own way of success. He also said drunk uncles who beat their wives were the epitome of masculinity. It’s easy to google this. Many writers from Appalachia have criticized it, many of them women who also weren’t given lucrative speaking roles in television because they didn’t deal in tragi-porn (and are also women).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The moderator is deleting the absolutely misogynistic racist scum comments that are supporting Vance. But these depraved posters are writing about supporting Vance. Make no mistake..they are for the GOP.

I generally support Vance, despite him being a never-Trumper early on. It’s not the choice I would’ve preferred, but Trump is gonna Trump. I hope he’s a better pick than Pence. Hopefully Trump learned something…. but Trump is gonna Trump.





Now, let me know which part of what I just said was the racist, depraved, misogynistic part….I’ll wait.

You hope he’s better than Pence because Pence saved America?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:JD Vance is an opportunist, which was apparent even at the time his book became popular, before he ever entered politics. He's a turncoat who despised Trump before he understood Trumpism was the way to more power and riches.

Harris is your regular politician, slightly corrupt like they all are, but by no means rotten.

However Biden can see his way to stepping aside now and letting Harris fight the good fight. With a centrist (or even conservative) VP as young as Vance, for good measure. I'd like Kinzinger.

Why would Biden step aside? Three days ago he said he was 100% committed, and the process had been decided. It was the will of the voters.


Why would he pull a sudden 180? And if he did, doesn’t that sort of prove he never should’ve been there at all?

Because it is not Joe who is making these decisions. He will step aside if he was told to do so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So Vance is supportive of mafia loansharking

That is "helping the little guy"

(not)

I worked at a finreg with someone whose father had been a payday lender who operated next to an army base. After his father died, my colleague cleaned out his small office and found hundreds of thank you letters from grateful soldiers for being there with cash when they most needed it.

It is another perspective, one that should not be dismissed even as we are appalled by the APRs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JD Vance is an opportunist, which was apparent even at the time his book became popular, before he ever entered politics. He's a turncoat who despised Trump before he understood Trumpism was the way to more power and riches.

Harris is your regular politician, slightly corrupt like they all are, but by no means rotten.

However Biden can see his way to stepping aside now and letting Harris fight the good fight. With a centrist (or even conservative) VP as young as Vance, for good measure. I'd like Kinzinger.

Why would Biden step aside? Three days ago he said he was 100% committed, and the process had been decided. It was the will of the voters.


Why would he pull a sudden 180? And if he did, doesn’t that sort of prove he never should’ve been there at all?

Because it is not Joe who is making these decisions. He will step aside if he was told to do so.

And if he doesn’t?

Then what? What will “they” do to Joe to convince him?