McMillan was never a park. |
| Omg, shut it, Karen. We at until you got to Amsterdam and see the pissers they have right out in the open. Or the holes in the ground along the canal you piss in our in public. It's like an all time favorite photo for touristy Americans. |
Yeah..I spend enough money at Starbucks that I don’t feel bad if I am not buying something on that one occasion. |
What do you do? Pick the locks? Shove your way in? |
What are you talking about? Most don’t need a key, but if they do I go ask for it and they give it to you (or code). |
You don't see how you're likely benefiting from race, gender, or SES based privilege here and that someone who appears differently might not find it easy to access a bathroom? |
I'm talking about places where the sign says NO PUBLIC RESTROOMS or RESTROOMS FOR CUSTOMERS ONLY. What do you do at those places? You just go and use the restroom anyway and nobody bothers you? You go and ask for the key or code and they give it to you? |
Yes. So you need a tutorial on how the world works? |
I'm happy this strategy works for you, but please recognize the reality that there are plenty of people whom this strategy does not work for. |
And PP not using the bathroom in these places will not change anything for those people. If you have a story about someone being barred from using the bathroom at a McDonald’s or wherever, please share it here so people can avoid that location. |
Huh? Nobody said it would. The problem is that lots of people who need access to restrooms in public places don't have access to restrooms in public places. "I never have this problem, why can't you just do what I do?" does not address this problem. Crowdsourcing McDonaldses that bar the people from the restrooms, or hassle people, also does not address this problem. |
What do you want people who use these restrooms for free to do? Tell me explicitly. Also, fwiw, I have literally never seen any type of person turned away from a fast food bathroom. There’s not an employee checking for a receipt at the door. |
DP here, I want people who use restrooms for free to recognize that they are relying on their privilege, and not to assume that other people have the same experience. Because as you can see from this thread, they are using their experience to justify advocating for the removal of something that people actually need. I don't care if they still use the restrooms for free. Just allow other people to have restrooms that they can use. |
Understand that plenty of people who also need restrooms do not have the ability to do what these people are fortunate to be able to do. "Nobody has ever stopped me from using a restroom" is pretty close to "If they don't have bread, why don't they eat cake?" |
Or please share it, so more of us can show our support and patronize this McDonalds! I'm all for businesses discouraging criminals, addicts and other sketchy types from hanging out in their rest rooms. There is a McDonalds on Wisconsin Avenue that used to play classical music to discourage disruptive younger people from loitering there -- brilliant idea. |