Death of Pittsburgh twin infant

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ironically, another crazy psych major. And yet at every problem, dcum suggests OP to seek therapy. Many therapists are good, but many are nutjobs.

yep. People here will shout you down if you try to talk about therapy abuse, yet I'm not surprised because I sometimes see the exact same unhealthy power dynamics here.

I know a complete psychopath who thinks she is amazing because she's getting a PhD in health from an Ivy League school. She's very physically fit and takes all her vitamins. She laughs at disabled people and thinks they should be kept out of the way because they are useless to society. Unlike her of course, the very physically healthy psychopath who thinks she's a doctor.

We actually do have doctors with this mindset too.

It should be a wake-up call for society that a psych PhD did this.

I’m guessing she’s getting a degree from Harvard Extension School. It’s not really Harvard.

San Diego has a very competitive PhD in Psych. That’s where she is studying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ironically, another crazy psych major. And yet at every problem, dcum suggests OP to seek therapy. Many therapists are good, but many are nutjobs.

yep. People here will shout you down if you try to talk about therapy abuse, yet I'm not surprised because I sometimes see the exact same unhealthy power dynamics here.

I know a complete psychopath who thinks she is amazing because she's getting a PhD in health from an Ivy League school. She's very physically fit and takes all her vitamins. She laughs at disabled people and thinks they should be kept out of the way because they are useless to society. Unlike her of course, the very physically healthy psychopath who thinks she's a doctor.

We actually do have doctors with this mindset too.

It should be a wake-up call for society that a psych PhD did this.

I’m guessing she’s getting a degree from Harvard Extension School. It’s not really Harvard.

San Diego has a very competitive PhD in Psych. That’s where she is studying.

I was referring to the poster’s obnoxious friend, not the babysitter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I question why parents left 6 week old infants with anyone.

This. I was an exceedingly laid back parent and had twins and I would
not have left them with a friends at 6 weeks. That's really not typical behavior at all.

The posts saying this surprise me. I left my kids with a sitter starting at 6 weeks because I had to return to work and they were too young for daycare. I have friends who did the same. It’s not at all weird to leave infants with caregivers for short periods of time at 6 weeks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I question why parents left 6 week old infants with anyone.

This. I was an exceedingly laid back parent and had twins and I would
not have left them with a friends at 6 weeks. That's really not typical behavior at all.

The posts saying this surprise me. I left my kids with a sitter starting at 6 weeks because I had to return to work and they were too young for daycare. I have friends who did the same. It’s not at all weird to leave infants with caregivers for short periods of time at 6 weeks.

I read somewhere it was their anniversary (as well as Father’s Day). Maybe they wanted to have a short period of time to take a break and celebrate?!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a twin mom and caring for two infants is hard. I'm wondering if she just lost it.

It's such a sad and odd situation. Six weeks is really young to get a weekend sitter for twins. The sitter seems like she didn't have much experience if she told 911 that the baby was in a bouncer and fell. That's too young for a seat/bouncer.

Hopefully the truth will come out. Either way so sad.

It doesn’t sound like a weekend sitter. It sounds like the parents had a friend visiting. While the friend was there they discovered an injury on one kid and asked friend to watch the other kid while they took the first one to the hospital.

The injury was to the genital area and only the parents and the friend had been with the child. If the parents didn't harm the child then it had to be the friend. So why leave her alone with other infant,,? Makes no sense unless all three were involved in harming the child,! Why didn't they call 911?

Who says the parents weren't involved? The dad looks dodgy to me. Maybe he cracked under the pressure of having twins and blamed it on the babysitter.

Wow. You sure feel comfortable making completely unfounded accusations against people who suffered a grievous loss. Pretty gross.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ironically, another crazy psych major. And yet at every problem, dcum suggests OP to seek therapy. Many therapists are good, but many are nutjobs.

Amen!
Once you've seen or experienced it, it's chilling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a twin mom and caring for two infants is hard. I'm wondering if she just lost it.

It's such a sad and odd situation. Six weeks is really young to get a weekend sitter for twins. The sitter seems like she didn't have much experience if she told 911 that the baby was in a bouncer and fell. That's too young for a seat/bouncer.

Hopefully the truth will come out. Either way so sad.

It wasn’t a sitter. She’s a family friend who had come to visit/meet the babies and offered to help. 6 weeks isn’t too young for a bouncy seat. I used those from day 1 with my twins bc they were like a second set of hands

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone following this story? A close friend of the family (and PhD student)is charged with killing the infant in her care, as well as harming the other. Very sad.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13556075/Phd-student-charged-murder-friends-baby-Pittsburgh.html

Yes and I think there is a lot missing from the story.

The fall from the bouncer - I could see this happening if the bouncer had been on a table which plenty of parents do even though it is unsafe. She fell asleep and woke up to find the baby and bouncer on the floor. Close to the edge of a table the movements of a baby could tip it off.

Also the idea that everyone will wake up to a crying baby is not true. I recall be very tired and falling asleep with my baby crying. I wasn’t asleep more than a few minutes but it made me realize that it’s definitely possible to sleep through a crying baby.

How many infants with head injuries has the ER doc actually seen in person in his career? But let’s say it was as bad as described - did it happen before that afternoon?

The other injuries - having seen a very severe diaper rash. I think it’s possible that someone could initially report it as an injury or a purposeful act.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone following this story? A close friend of the family (and PhD student)is charged with killing the infant in her care, as well as harming the other. Very sad.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13556075/Phd-student-charged-murder-friends-baby-Pittsburgh.html

Yes and I think there is a lot missing from the story.

The fall from the bouncer - I could see this happening if the bouncer had been on a table which plenty of parents do even though it is unsafe. She fell asleep and woke up to find the baby and bouncer on the floor. Close to the edge of a table the movements of a baby could tip it off.

Also the idea that everyone will wake up to a crying baby is not true. I recall be very tired and falling asleep with my baby crying. I wasn’t asleep more than a few minutes but it made me realize that it’s definitely possible to sleep through a crying baby.

How many infants with head injuries has the ER doc actually seen in person in his career? But let’s say it was as bad as described - did it happen before that afternoon?

The other injuries - having seen a very severe diaper rash. I think it’s possible that someone could initially report it as an injury or a purposeful act.

What are the odds of one baby falling from the counter while the other baby is at the ER for what doctors describe as an “intentional” injury?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If it were schizophrenia, she wouldn’t have been able to come up with a lie to protect herself from charges, would she (she came up with the story about going to get a bottle and the baby falling)? Attacking/murdering newborns would be the result of a psychotic break and it doesn’t sound like that’s what was going on.

Catherine Hoggle has schizophrenia and told an elaborate and likely false story about what happened to her kids, so it seems possible. Whether she actually believes it's true or made it up for self preservation is another question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone following this story? A close friend of the family (and PhD student)is charged with killing the infant in her care, as well as harming the other. Very sad.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13556075/Phd-student-charged-murder-friends-baby-Pittsburgh.html

Yes and I think there is a lot missing from the story.

The fall from the bouncer - I could see this happening if the bouncer had been on a table which plenty of parents do even though it is unsafe. She fell asleep and woke up to find the baby and bouncer on the floor. Close to the edge of a table the movements of a baby could tip it off.

Also the idea that everyone will wake up to a crying baby is not true. I recall be very tired and falling asleep with my baby crying. I wasn’t asleep more than a few minutes but it made me realize that it’s definitely possible to sleep through a crying baby.

How many infants with head injuries has the ER doc actually seen in person in his career? But let’s say it was as bad as described - did it happen before that afternoon?

The other injuries - having seen a very severe diaper rash. I think it’s possible that someone could initially report it as an injury or a purposeful act.

What are the odds of one baby falling from the counter while the other baby is at the ER for what doctors describe as an “intentional” injury?

Not that unusual of odds if the baby was in a bouncer on a counter or table unattended. As I said, I wonder if they injury had already occurred at another time.

[Anonymous]

Look at DCUM posters falling all over themselves to defend this UMC white woman. SMH.

[Anonymous]

Remember that a lot of twins are born premature so six week olds may be more like corrected age of 3 weeks. I refused to let anyone take care of my preemie baby other than me and my husband. These babies are way too fragile. Horrible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look at DCUM posters falling all over themselves to defend this UMC white woman. SMH.

Right?? It's eye-opening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at DCUM posters falling all over themselves to defend this UMC white woman. SMH.

Right?? It's eye-opening.

One poster here is doing that. One.